Any schools commemorating Columbus Day?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it should be celebrated.

I’m not Italian, but came here in the 1980’s from Eastern Europe.

So if Columbus never came across America, the native Americans would have still been in control of the American continent today? Unlikely.

If Columbus did not get here first, you would have had explores from England, Spain, etc find this place eventually. Heck, even Russia or China would have colonized “America” by now.

The Native Americans would have been taken over by a more advanced civilization one way or another. In the 1000 years they were in control of America, they still hunted, lived in tents. They were not very advanced technologically. Rome and Greece had running water, cites, roads……. And that was 1000 years before Columbus.

Also if America was never colonized, it would still be a backwards continent and we would still be in Europe or whoever your ancestors came from.

So god bless Columbus for finding America for Europeans and colonizing the area. This country and countries in South America would never be as advanced as they are now. And if Columbus did not do it, China and Russia would have eventually.

As a Christian, are you morally OK with the fact that European colonizers were responsible for the deaths of up to 90% (yes, that is correct, not a typo) of the native population? You think that eliminating out entire communities should be glossed over (or, in your case, conveniently ignored) because Europeans were technologically "advanced"?

You really want to blame someone?

So if Columbus never made it here, you thing the Americas would some sort of Native American utopia? Untouched by anyone?

Come on. This would have been colonized by other countries like Russia and China eventually. So don’t pretend like it was not going to happen one way or another.

Columbus was here first. If he never existed it would have been other explorers from somewhere else. Same thing would have happened to the native Americans.

[Anonymous]

Evidence Viking were in North America a few hundred years before Columbus and Polynesian explorers were in South America as well.

Either way, American continent was going to be colonized by countries that would exploit and kill natives. This happened in South America by the Spanish and Portuguese.

[Anonymous]

You are here in DC enjoying the benefits of living in America.

If America was never colonized, you would be living in your ancestral home countries speaking a different language.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbus isn’t exactly someone to celebrate. He didn’t “find” anything that didn’t already exist.

My school will be talking about Indigenous Peoples day instead

The irony here is that Columbus Day was first celebrated to combat anti-Catholic sentiment and oppression in the United States.

Columbus was no saint, and no he was not the first to set foot in the "New World". And, yes, we should honor those native to this land too, but let's not ignore that the intent of Columbus day was to include a previously marginalized population (i.e. Catholics) and combat the prejudice and discrimination that they faced. You don't need to celebrate the man, but his accomplishments and what they represent set off the chain of events that led to the society we live in today, for better or worse.

Ironically, looks like he was Sephardi.

Several articles that I saw today report research that might support that.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg2049ezpko

[Anonymous]

Does every ethnic group really need a holiday? Let’s get over it and celebrate being Americans

[Anonymous]

Polish Americans were discriminated against. Where is their holiday? Every one has a grievance about something that happened three generations ago. If you care about discrimination and racism, spend your time and energy fighting against today’s discrimination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Were Italian Americans discriminated against? Yes. Were they able to eventually blend in and be the boring, generic American version of whiteness? Yes. Says this second gen whose family refused to let them learn Italian in order to be more ‘American’ and blend in. I could. And we did. Columbus is not the Italian hill to die on for this. Move along.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Polish Americans were discriminated against. Where is their holiday? Every one has a grievance about something that happened three generations ago. If you care about discrimination and racism, spend your time and energy fighting against today’s discrimination.

You mean Pulaski Day?

[Anonymous]

He wasn’t even Italian so the “holiday” seems dumb now.

-Italian American

[Anonymous]

He was a Spanish Jew.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg2049ezpko.amp

Ole!

[Anonymous]

Surely you find a better hero of Italian culture to celebrate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He was a Spanish Jew.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg2049ezpko.amp

Ole!

... According to a bunch of Spanish people who sampled DNA found in Spanish-conected territories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are here in DC enjoying the benefits of living in America.

If America was never colonized, you would be living in your ancestral home countries speaking a different language.

Not me. My ancestral home was genocided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What would “celebrating” it look like? Go for a drive, get lost, re-name people and places, kill everyone and steal the land?

It’s hard to fit that into a single day.

Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was a Spanish Jew.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg2049ezpko.amp

Ole!

... According to a bunch of Spanish people who sampled DNA found in Spanish-conected territories.

A Spanish guy sailing in Spanish ships on an expedition funded by Spanish monarchs.

Kinda funny actually that Italian Americans tried to take “credit” for the “discovery”.