APS to offer direct path to college at GMU at 3 high schools

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Anonymous wrote:Great idea, but I need to question the rationale for limiting it to only these 3 schools. There are about 400 FRL kids at HB Woodlawn and Yorktown that get left out, while kids from $$$$ Aurora Hills and Lyon Village who have all the advantages but not top grades get the benefit. And wouldn’t we want people to seek transfers as needed to balance enrollment? This discourages that.

The implementation is going to have unintended and undesirable consequences. In the interest of being truly equitable, this program should be implemented district wide. GMU is a state school, affordable, and with an improving state and national profile every year. Good students from all types of families are choosing to go there. It’s not equitable to offer this program to some students and not others.

Those poor HB and YHS kids. They never get a break.

This is dumb. There are some HB and YHS kids who need a break. Is it fewer than the kids at the other high schools? Sure.

But this isn't the purpose of the program. It is GMU's goal to increase representation in applications. YHS and HB don't really advance that goal. You advance that goal by targeting schools like WHS where 75% of students are non-white, not by targeting schools that are 25% white.

This is a GMU initiative and GMU has pursued this agreement with high-FRL schools across districts - this is not an APS initiative, nor is it APS-exclusive.

The students at YHS and HB have significant resources to help them succeed. Resources at schools like Wakefield are stretched way way farther and far more students overall need more breaks.

Exactly. Wake and WL are two of the most diverse schools in the DMV. This helps GMU.

What is this helping ? Why would gmu be helped?

My guess is since WHS annd WL are very diverse by local standards, GMU hopes to increase underrepresented minorities. Especially now that Affirmative Action is no longer an option. Yorktown on the other hand is more or less your typical affluent high school in the dmv.

GMU And underrepresented minorities don’t go in the same sentence. They aren’t lacking a minority demographic among students.

I didn’t closely look at demographics of area schools before. W-L actually has more white students than many if not most Northern Va high schools. So it appears that GMU wants to boost the enrollment of students who are lower income. So they are after socio-economic diversity in particular. This is a good program that targets certain schools. It is unfair though that similar students at Yorktown can’t benefit.

[Anonymous]

Sob sob sob won’t someone think of the Yorktown students…

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They expand to more schools every year. Just give it a few more years.

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Anonymous wrote:The acceptance rate at George Mason University is 90%.

This program is about catching students who wouldn't even know how to apply.

If you are reading this website, your kid can get into GMU without this special admissions program.

Why are these rates so much lower?
https://www.arlingtonmagazine.com/where-arlingtons-class-of-2021-applied-to-college-and-got-in/

George Mason University
Applied Accepted
37 16
23 11
129 65
111 72
90 50

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Anonymous wrote:Great idea, but I need to question the rationale for limiting it to only these 3 schools. There are about 400 FRL kids at HB Woodlawn and Yorktown that get left out, while kids from $$$$ Aurora Hills and Lyon Village who have all the advantages but not top grades get the benefit. And wouldn’t we want people to seek transfers as needed to balance enrollment? This discourages that.

The implementation is going to have unintended and undesirable consequences. In the interest of being truly equitable, this program should be implemented district wide. GMU is a state school, affordable, and with an improving state and national profile every year. Good students from all types of families are choosing to go there. It’s not equitable to offer this program to some students and not others.

Those poor HB and YHS kids. They never get a break.

This is dumb. There are some HB and YHS kids who need a break. Is it fewer than the kids at the other high schools? Sure.

But this isn't the purpose of the program. It is GMU's goal to increase representation in applications. YHS and HB don't really advance that goal. You advance that goal by targeting schools like WHS where 75% of students are non-white, not by targeting schools that are 25% white.

This is a GMU initiative and GMU has pursued this agreement with high-FRL schools across districts - this is not an APS initiative, nor is it APS-exclusive.

The students at YHS and HB have significant resources to help them succeed. Resources at schools like Wakefield are stretched way way farther and far more students overall need more breaks.

Exactly. Wake and WL are two of the most diverse schools in the DMV. This helps GMU.

What is this helping ? Why would gmu be helped?

My guess is since WHS annd WL are very diverse by local standards, GMU hopes to increase underrepresented minorities. Especially now that Affirmative Action is no longer an option. Yorktown on the other hand is more or less your typical affluent high school in the dmv.

GMU And underrepresented minorities don’t go in the same sentence. They aren’t lacking a minority demographic among students.

I didn’t closely look at demographics of area schools before. W-L actually has more white students than many if not most Northern Va high schools. So it appears that GMU wants to boost the enrollment of students who are lower income. So they are after socio-economic diversity in particular. This is a good program that targets certain schools. It is unfair though that similar students at Yorktown can’t benefit.

So exactly the kind is student who would struggle to pay for GMU or any in state tuition bc there is very little aid provided to in state students

I mean come on - GMU doesn’t need these students and the reason they are offering this is not bc they are trying to recruit anyone. It’s just a feel good community thing and there is likely some money each side is making or some tax break or incentive being realized in this partnership.

The students who will benefit are those whose parents are upper middle class but their grades were not that great and they aren’t headed to a top school but their parents were worried they were not headed to any school. At least this is a reasonable college option for this area.

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Anonymous wrote:Great idea, but I need to question the rationale for limiting it to only these 3 schools. There are about 400 FRL kids at HB Woodlawn and Yorktown that get left out, while kids from $$$$ Aurora Hills and Lyon Village who have all the advantages but not top grades get the benefit. And wouldn’t we want people to seek transfers as needed to balance enrollment? This discourages that.

The implementation is going to have unintended and undesirable consequences. In the interest of being truly equitable, this program should be implemented district wide. GMU is a state school, affordable, and with an improving state and national profile every year. Good students from all types of families are choosing to go there. It’s not equitable to offer this program to some students and not others.

Those poor HB and YHS kids. They never get a break.

This is dumb. There are some HB and YHS kids who need a break. Is it fewer than the kids at the other high schools? Sure.

But this isn't the purpose of the program. It is GMU's goal to increase representation in applications. YHS and HB don't really advance that goal. You advance that goal by targeting schools like WHS where 75% of students are non-white, not by targeting schools that are 25% white.

This is a GMU initiative and GMU has pursued this agreement with high-FRL schools across districts - this is not an APS initiative, nor is it APS-exclusive.

The students at YHS and HB have significant resources to help them succeed. Resources at schools like Wakefield are stretched way way farther and far more students overall need more breaks.

Exactly. Wake and WL are two of the most diverse schools in the DMV. This helps GMU.

They said it is to help address DECLINING numbers of underrepresented students. Good for them trying to stay on top of it instead of waiting until it's a bigger problem.

What is this helping ? Why would gmu be helped?

My guess is since WHS annd WL are very diverse by local standards, GMU hopes to increase underrepresented minorities. Especially now that Affirmative Action is no longer an option. Yorktown on the other hand is more or less your typical affluent high school in the dmv.

GMU And underrepresented minorities don’t go in the same sentence. They aren’t lacking a minority demographic among students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great idea, but I need to question the rationale for limiting it to only these 3 schools. There are about 400 FRL kids at HB Woodlawn and Yorktown that get left out, while kids from $$$$ Aurora Hills and Lyon Village who have all the advantages but not top grades get the benefit. And wouldn’t we want people to seek transfers as needed to balance enrollment? This discourages that.

The implementation is going to have unintended and undesirable consequences. In the interest of being truly equitable, this program should be implemented district wide. GMU is a state school, affordable, and with an improving state and national profile every year. Good students from all types of families are choosing to go there. It’s not equitable to offer this program to some students and not others.

Those poor HB and YHS kids. They never get a break.

This is dumb. There are some HB and YHS kids who need a break. Is it fewer than the kids at the other high schools? Sure.

But this isn't the purpose of the program. It is GMU's goal to increase representation in applications. YHS and HB don't really advance that goal. You advance that goal by targeting schools like WHS where 75% of students are non-white, not by targeting schools that are 25% white.

This is a GMU initiative and GMU has pursued this agreement with high-FRL schools across districts - this is not an APS initiative, nor is it APS-exclusive.

The students at YHS and HB have significant resources to help them succeed. Resources at schools like Wakefield are stretched way way farther and far more students overall need more breaks.

Exactly. Wake and WL are two of the most diverse schools in the DMV. This helps GMU.

They said it is to help address DECLINING numbers of underrepresented students. Good for them trying to stay on top of it instead of waiting until it's a bigger problem.

What is this helping ? Why would gmu be helped?

My guess is since WHS annd WL are very diverse by local standards, GMU hopes to increase underrepresented minorities. Especially now that Affirmative Action is no longer an option. Yorktown on the other hand is more or less your typical affluent high school in the dmv.

GMU And underrepresented minorities don’t go in the same sentence. They aren’t lacking a minority demographic among students.

The information about the program indicated they were addressing a DECLINE in underrepresented groups. Getting ahead of the situation rather than waiting until it's a bigger one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:APS to offer direct path to college at GMU at 3 high schools

Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen

Based on?

Giving a slightly easier admissions path for first gen & EL students isn’t illegal.

Although I’m sure the POS parents trying to trash our schools will find some excuse.

Why? Because the program is NOT "slightly easier admission path for first gen & EL students." Rather, the program is: guaranteed admission if you attend public schools X, Y & Z BUT NOT public schools A & B.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS to offer direct path to college at GMU at 3 high schools

Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen

Based on?

Giving a slightly easier admissions path for first gen & EL students isn’t illegal.

Although I’m sure the POS parents trying to trash our schools will find some excuse.

Why? Because the program is NOT "slightly easier admission path for first gen & EL students." Rather, the program is: guaranteed admission if you attend public schools X, Y & Z BUT NOT public schools A & B.

So which part is illegal? None.

Suck it, APE losers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS to offer direct path to college at GMU at 3 high schools

Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen

Based on?

Giving a slightly easier admissions path for first gen & EL students isn’t illegal.

Although I’m sure the POS parents trying to trash our schools will find some excuse.

Why? Because the program is NOT "slightly easier admission path for first gen & EL students." Rather, the program is: guaranteed admission if you attend public schools X, Y & Z BUT NOT public schools A & B.

So which part is illegal? None.

Suck it, APE losers.

Very charming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS to offer direct path to college at GMU at 3 high schools

Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen

Based on?

Giving a slightly easier admissions path for first gen & EL students isn’t illegal.

Although I’m sure the POS parents trying to trash our schools will find some excuse.

Why? Because the program is NOT "slightly easier admission path for first gen & EL students." Rather, the program is: guaranteed admission if you attend public schools X, Y & Z BUT NOT public schools A & B.

I think the point is anyone with a 3.25 from APS is basically guaranteed admission to Mason, they are just making it easier for some students by eliminating the need for an essay and teacher recommendations (its already test-optional). You still have to opt in and complete the common app.

[Anonymous]

George mason has a 90 percent acceptance rate and is basically an oversized community college. They are streamlining low income students who are more likely to stay home and go to George Mason rather than wealthier students that will go to some out of state party school with a high acceptance rate if their grades suck (think ole miss or WVU)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:APS to offer direct path to college at GMU at 3 high schools

Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen

Based on?

Giving a slightly easier admissions path for first gen & EL students isn’t illegal.

Although I’m sure the POS parents trying to trash our schools will find some excuse.

Why? Because the program is NOT "slightly easier admission path for first gen & EL students." Rather, the program is: guaranteed admission if you attend public schools X, Y & Z BUT NOT public schools A & B.

So which part is illegal? None.

Suck it, APE losers.

Very charming.

Please. They deserve much worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:George mason has a 90 percent acceptance rate and is basically an oversized community college. They are streamlining low income students who are more likely to stay home and go to George Mason rather than wealthier students that will go to some out of state party school with a high acceptance rate if their grades suck (think ole miss or WVU)

I always understood GMU to be among the very strong mid-tier of the state schools. Very highly regarded, more accessible, but less cachet than W&M, VPI, UVA, etc.

Kind of like UMBC in Baltimore County. I wonder if the newly expanded Arlington Campus will host undergrads. That would help the low income Arlington students with the commmute to/from classes.

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Anonymous wrote:George mason has a 90 percent acceptance rate and is basically an oversized community college. They are streamlining low income students who are more likely to stay home and go to George Mason rather than wealthier students that will go to some out of state party school with a high acceptance rate if their grades suck (think ole miss or WVU)

I always understood GMU to be among the very strong mid-tier of the state schools. Very highly regarded, more accessible, but less cachet than W&M, VPI, UVA, etc.

Kind of like UMBC in Baltimore County. I wonder if the newly expanded Arlington Campus will host undergrads. That would help the low income Arlington students with the commmute to/from classes.

It’s very much a commuter school. I’m not saying it’s a bad school, it’s not. But it is typically not the first choice of those who want the traditional college experience.