ending reversible lanes along Rock Creek Parkway

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If they do this, they really should explore: (1) making the light and left turn signal at Virginia Ave much, much longer, including possibly allowing both lanes to make the left turn, and (2) putting in a traffic light at that choke point after the tunnel where cars have to make the left turn.

This. Because it is the one way pattern in the AM that makes that choke point bearable. Without it, traffic would be at a complete standstill all down Beach Drive.
And yes, the smugness of the completely healthy and affluent on this thread is obnoxious. Not everyone is physically able to transport multiple kids to multiple schools on public transit and still get to work on time. Not everyone is rich enough to afford a place to live that is easily accessible to dominant transportation lines---whether metro or bus. Let's recap:

Klingle Road---major cross town arterial---permanently closed over a decade ago to accommodate the rich NIMBYs of Cleveland Park
Beach Drive ---permanently closed to traffic north of Broad Branch during Covid and never reopened
Zoo Road (another cross town access road during the day once Klingle closed) also permanently closed during Covid

Klingle Rd was permanently closed to traffic in the end because rebuilding the road to modern traffic engineering standards would have required decking over the creek and would have been prohibitively expensive to build and maintain for only a modest amount of traffic. Two other resulting benefits were a walk/bike trail connecting with the Rock Creek network and that the decision effectively killed a planned development of the remainder of Tregaron, which became conservation land.

Are people still fighting the Klingle Road War?! Good grief.

Urbanists see Klingle Valley as a missed opportunity for more vibrant dense mixed-use development.

... said by no urbanist ever, liar.

The only people who cried foul over this were those who wanted to use the road to go vroom vroom in their car. That isn't a position that any urbanist supports.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand the danger associated with them. But as someone who commutes on that road every morning and afternoon I honestly would have to quit my job and find a new one if they got rid of one way traffic. My morning commute could still be somewhat okay. My afternoon commute would be horrible. That road would be backed up so far it would just be ridiculous.

I always thought they were less helpful in the afternoon because the backup to make the right turn where Calvert Street branches off to the left is horrific, and one way traffic doesn't do anything to help there.

Before 4 pm RCP is at a standstill because of beach drive. Once the one way lanes open at four all those cars going right can do so without getting stuck in beach drive traffic. The latter basically takes up two full lanes.

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They should close the whole park to traffic.

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Anonymous wrote:If they do this, they really should explore: (1) making the light and left turn signal at Virginia Ave much, much longer, including possibly allowing both lanes to make the left turn, and (2) putting in a traffic light at that choke point after the tunnel where cars have to make the left turn.

This would create many more problems and pollution in the park. Horrible idea.

How would it create more pollution? Having a long line of cars inching up gradually while waiting to make that left turn seems to generate tons of pollution already.

I think they're talking about the AM rush when cars turning left into VA Ave just use the north oubd lanes and turn left without stopping.

I love the statistic that more crashes happen during the hours that the lanes are reversed ignoring the fact that thats also the time with the most volume and people travelling fastest because it's rush hour.
Don't be surprised when DC council members start suggesting adding a protected bike lane for the 500 bike commuters displacing a portion of the 7500 cars.

It is the rate of crashes that is substantially higher with the lanes reversed, i.e, for every 100 cars that go through the park, the accident frequency is nearly 50% higher with the lanes reversed. Reversing the lanes is going to remain a safety challenge given this area is traversed by so many transients and visitors who don’t have experience with these conditions.