Who is WASP (Williams, Amherst, Swat, Pomona) for?

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Anonymous wrote:Safety schools for Ivy students. I don't understand the purpose of the liberal arts colleges, other than this purpose-ivy league rejects, who need a separate system to show off how intelligent they are, while signaling an embarrassing, crippling self-esteem issue.

tremendous post - no one chooses Williams over an ivy, even cornell. The pretentiousness at Williams is overwhelming- big big chip on everyone’s shoulder about how it’s just as good as ivy. DC made it halfway thru tour, and we left. Wound up at Vandy and luving life -

But many many people do chose top LACs over ivies? Definitely more representative by percentage of pop than Vandy lmao.

Many, many? That isn’t even possible given how few kids actually attend the four lacs under discussion.

Many for their populations, sure. Do you need a certain quota for it to be significant enough for you or what? It just seems really weird to pose that top LACs are ivy reject schools to then bring up and boost an alternative ivy reject school. DP.

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DC chose Swarthmore over Williams. I accompanied DC to the Williams Accepted School Day and sat next to a mother whose DD was undecided between Williams and an ivy (can't remember which one). I was surprised to hear her dilemma, but I guess it happens.
BTW, my DC never took a class at Haverford or Bryn Mar during his time at Swarthmore.

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Anonymous wrote:Safety schools for Ivy students. I don't understand the purpose of the liberal arts colleges, other than this purpose-ivy league rejects, who need a separate system to show off how intelligent they are, while signaling an embarrassing, crippling self-esteem issue.

tremendous post - no one chooses Williams over an ivy, even cornell. The pretentiousness at Williams is overwhelming- big big chip on everyone’s shoulder about how it’s just as good as ivy. DC made it halfway thru tour, and we left. Wound up at Vandy and luving life -

But many many people do chose top LACs over ivies? Definitely more representative by percentage of pop than Vandy lmao.

Many, many? That isn’t even possible given how few kids actually attend the four lacs under discussion.

absolutely right - weird post, vandy and slacs mostly ED

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Anonymous wrote:What are the distinct differences between the 4, and why do students chose these over ivies or other t20s sometimes?

Smart D3 athletes may choose these schools. Not quite good enough for Princeton or Vanderbilt or Duke, but definitely a competitive athlete that wants to continue. That's roughly 25-35 percent of all students at these schools. After that it's going to vary. Each SWAT attracts different kinds of students.

Not many of them though these days.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the distinct differences between the 4, and why do students chose these over ivies or other t20s sometimes?

Smart D3 athletes may choose these schools. Not quite good enough for Princeton or Vanderbilt or Duke, but definitely a competitive athlete that wants to continue. That's roughly 25-35 percent of all students at these schools. After that it's going to vary. Each SWAT attracts different kinds of students.

Not many of them though these days.

A majority of their applicant pool is clearly not athletes, and they have gained in applications year over year, so clearly someone else is attracted.

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Anonymous wrote:Safety schools for Ivy students. I don't understand the purpose of the liberal arts colleges, other than this purpose-ivy league rejects, who need a separate system to show off how intelligent they are, while signaling an embarrassing, crippling self-esteem issue.

tremendous post - no one chooses Williams over an ivy, even cornell. The pretentiousness at Williams is overwhelming- big big chip on everyone’s shoulder about how it’s just as good as ivy. DC made it halfway thru tour, and we left. Wound up at Vandy and luving life -

But many many people do chose top LACs over ivies? Definitely more representative by percentage of pop than Vandy lmao.

Many, many? That isn’t even possible given how few kids actually attend the four lacs under discussion.

Many for their populations, sure. Do you need a certain quota for it to be significant enough for you or what? It just seems really weird to pose that top LACs are ivy reject schools to then bring up and boost an alternative ivy reject school. DP.

let me put it a different way - no one on earth has every uttered the following phrase “I turned down Williams for *** ivy” - and do you know why? because kids who actually choose to attend ivies never see Williams as an alternative, and never struggled with that decision. Same can’t be said for 90%+ Williams undergrads. Every athlete - which makes up between 35%-40% of the population at Williams - would have attended an ivy if they were good enough and recruited by and offered a spot by an ivy coach - that’s just a fact

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Anonymous wrote:DC chose Swarthmore over Williams. I accompanied DC to the Williams Accepted School Day and sat next to a mother whose DD was undecided between Williams and an ivy (can't remember which one). I was surprised to hear her dilemma, but I guess it happens.
BTW, my DC never took a class at Haverford or Bryn Mar during his time at Swarthmore.

In DC's friend group at a WASP, 4 out of the 5 all got into ivies- DC is the one who didn't because they didn't apply. It's not that uncommon.
The activist/tv personality Jazz Jennings hilariously had a crisis about whether to go to Pomona or Harvard, until her parents basically forced her to choose Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:Safety schools for Ivy students. I don't understand the purpose of the liberal arts colleges, other than this purpose-ivy league rejects, who need a separate system to show off how intelligent they are, while signaling an embarrassing, crippling self-esteem issue.

tremendous post - no one chooses Williams over an ivy, even cornell. The pretentiousness at Williams is overwhelming- big big chip on everyone’s shoulder about how it’s just as good as ivy. DC made it halfway thru tour, and we left. Wound up at Vandy and luving life -

But many many people do chose top LACs over ivies? Definitely more representative by percentage of pop than Vandy lmao.

Many, many? That isn’t even possible given how few kids actually attend the four lacs under discussion.

Many for their populations, sure. Do you need a certain quota for it to be significant enough for you or what? It just seems really weird to pose that top LACs are ivy reject schools to then bring up and boost an alternative ivy reject school. DP.

let me put it a different way - no one on earth has every uttered the following phrase “I turned down Williams for *** ivy” - and do you know why? because kids who actually choose to attend ivies never see Williams as an alternative, and never struggled with that decision. Same can’t be said for 90%+ Williams undergrads. Every athlete - which makes up between 35%-40% of the population at Williams - would have attended an ivy if they were good enough and recruited by and offered a spot by an ivy coach - that’s just a fact

Me when I lie but say things confidently to pretend the bs coming out of my mouth is true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Safety schools for Ivy students. I don't understand the purpose of the liberal arts colleges, other than this purpose-ivy league rejects, who need a separate system to show off how intelligent they are, while signaling an embarrassing, crippling self-esteem issue.

tremendous post - no one chooses Williams over an ivy, even cornell. The pretentiousness at Williams is overwhelming- big big chip on everyone’s shoulder about how it’s just as good as ivy. DC made it halfway thru tour, and we left. Wound up at Vandy and luving life -

Why are you even on this thread? There's many ivy and vandy threads for you to frolic to.

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Go to any top LAC and check their assistant professor faculty's education and notice the drop in school background quality (Berkeley becomes Yale, MIT becomes Brown, Princeton becomes UMich). It's really really sad.

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These are great students who can think for themselves and not worshipers of the Ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:Safety schools for Ivy students. I don't understand the purpose of the liberal arts colleges, other than this purpose-ivy league rejects, who need a separate system to show off how intelligent they are, while signaling an embarrassing, crippling self-esteem issue.

tremendous post - no one chooses Williams over an ivy, even cornell. The pretentiousness at Williams is overwhelming- big big chip on everyone’s shoulder about how it’s just as good as ivy. DC made it halfway thru tour, and we left. Wound up at Vandy and luving life -

Why are you even on this thread? There's many ivy and vandy threads for you to frolic to.

weird comment - poster is answering the topic question who is WASP for? and their answer is “ivy rejects”

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Safety schools for Ivy students. I don't understand the purpose of the liberal arts colleges, other than this purpose-ivy league rejects, who need a separate system to show off how intelligent they are, while signaling an embarrassing, crippling self-esteem issue.

tremendous post - no one chooses Williams over an ivy, even cornell. The pretentiousness at Williams is overwhelming- big big chip on everyone’s shoulder about how it’s just as good as ivy. DC made it halfway thru tour, and we left. Wound up at Vandy and luving life -

Why are you even on this thread? There's many ivy and vandy threads for you to frolic to.

weird comment - poster is answering the topic question who is WASP for? and their answer is “ivy rejects”

I just wonder if you have any experience with LACs. I also find it funny that someone responded that the two have totally different applicant pools (correct!) and then backtracked to LAC students being the students wanting to go to ivies (incorrect!). They're different types of schools. Why this is confusing anyone is confusing in itself.

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This thread derailed, so I'll answer OP.
Students who really want to learn a lot in college academically. Students who aren't naturally competitive. Students who have interest in higher education.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread derailed, so I'll answer OP.
Students who really want to learn a lot in college academically. Students who aren't naturally competitive. Students who have interest in higher education.

maybe at wesleyan or bowdoin - this isn’t true for Swat or Williams