What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also OP ask yourself why you are bent on this. My kid took Algebra in 7th grade and ended up taking Calc BC in 10th and is now a math major. I know people want to brag about doing algebra on 6th but personally find this highly unnecessary. Many kids struggle out in math in HS. Rushing through foundational skills is a poor idea.

How did this happen?

I wonder if that was a typo and she meant 11th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid was in compacted math in 5th, and qualified for the magnet middle school lottery (but was not picked). Can't remember her MAP-M, but it was decent.

We asked that she be tested the summer before 6th grade, to enroll in Alg 1 in 6th. The math coordinator at Westland MS gave her a test on Alg 1 topics. Not pre-algebra. She got a couple questions wrong out of 20. He said she couldn't enroll in Alg 1. I had the distinct impression he was trying his best to avoid accelerating anyone. He did the same thing to a couple of DD's friends. It is entirely unfair to demand that students already know the content of the class they are asking to enroll in. MCPS is supposed to test for readiness, not mastery.

As it happened, our kid went to the MCPS virtual academy for 6th anyway, where they were delighted to place her in Alg 1, no questions asked. She returned to Westland for 7th grade, and was placed in Honors Geo, since that was the next class, and was bused to BCC for Alg 2 in 8th grade. Now she's in high school, on track to take an advanced math class at UMD for 12th grade if she wants. Math poses no difficulty for her.

This is outrageous. He should have just said it was not possible instead of making it look like it's your daughter's failure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you.

The child is zoned for Tilden. What is a CES school?

At least with my experience, counselors at Tilden are unwilling to bump kids up to algebra in 6th. DD knows someone who scored 309 on Map M was still denied advanced placement. My DD ended up taking algebra 2 this summer to get on the fastest track.

Can you expand on little on summer classes? Is this a real possibility?

Yeah, took it through a summer program. She didn't receive credit for it and it won't appear on the transcript but counselor will let her move up to precalc in the fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid was in compacted math in 5th, and qualified for the magnet middle school lottery (but was not picked). Can't remember her MAP-M, but it was decent.

We asked that she be tested the summer before 6th grade, to enroll in Alg 1 in 6th. The math coordinator at Westland MS gave her a test on Alg 1 topics. Not pre-algebra. She got a couple questions wrong out of 20. He said she couldn't enroll in Alg 1. I had the distinct impression he was trying his best to avoid accelerating anyone. He did the same thing to a couple of DD's friends. It is entirely unfair to demand that students already know the content of the class they are asking to enroll in. MCPS is supposed to test for readiness, not mastery.

As it happened, our kid went to the MCPS virtual academy for 6th anyway, where they were delighted to place her in Alg 1, no questions asked. She returned to Westland for 7th grade, and was placed in Honors Geo, since that was the next class, and was bused to BCC for Alg 2 in 8th grade. Now she's in high school, on track to take an advanced math class at UMD for 12th grade if she wants. Math poses no difficulty for her.

Care to explain how this works?

There are two main pathways, but people disagree on which one is the real way to do it.

The year before you want to enroll in Virtual Academy, you or your represent should:

1. Buy (or at least fondle) a raw bat from a wet market in Wuhan.

OR

2. Do gain-of-function viral research at a biolab on Wuhan.

Then wait for MCPS to send out invites for the following fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you.

The child is zoned for Tilden. What is a CES school?

At least with my experience, counselors at Tilden are unwilling to bump kids up to algebra in 6th. DD knows someone who scored 309 on Map M was still denied advanced placement. My DD ended up taking algebra 2 this summer to get on the fastest track.

Can you expand on little on summer classes? Is this a real possibility?

Yeah, took it through a summer program. She didn't receive credit for it and it won't appear on the transcript but counselor will let her move up to precalc in the fall.

Non-MCPS Summer class isn't the important part for this, per se. Just need to show a sympathetic admin/counselor that your student is prepared for the class they want to take.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid was in compacted math in 5th, and qualified for the magnet middle school lottery (but was not picked). Can't remember her MAP-M, but it was decent.

We asked that she be tested the summer before 6th grade, to enroll in Alg 1 in 6th. The math coordinator at Westland MS gave her a test on Alg 1 topics. Not pre-algebra. She got a couple questions wrong out of 20. He said she couldn't enroll in Alg 1. I had the distinct impression he was trying his best to avoid accelerating anyone. He did the same thing to a couple of DD's friends. It is entirely unfair to demand that students already know the content of the class they are asking to enroll in. MCPS is supposed to test for readiness, not mastery.

As it happened, our kid went to the MCPS virtual academy for 6th anyway, where they were delighted to place her in Alg 1, no questions asked. She returned to Westland for 7th grade, and was placed in Honors Geo, since that was the next class, and was bused to BCC for Alg 2 in 8th grade. Now she's in high school, on track to take an advanced math class at UMD for 12th grade if she wants. Math poses no difficulty for her.

This is outrageous. He should have just said it was not possible instead of making it look like it's your daughter's failure.

In what way is this outrageous? The math coordinator makes the rules. These are kind of the same standards they use for early entry to kindergarten. And 20 questions couldn't have possibly covered the whole Alg. 1 curriculum. Alg. 1 is easy. It could signal that the math coordinator is really rigid or some of you may say a jerk, but it could also show a lack of understanding by the student of some key concepts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you.

The child is zoned for Tilden. What is a CES school?

At least with my experience, counselors at Tilden are unwilling to bump kids up to algebra in 6th. DD knows someone who scored 309 on Map M was still denied advanced placement. My DD ended up taking algebra 2 this summer to get on the fastest track.

Can you expand on little on summer classes? Is this a real possibility?

Yeah, took it through a summer program. She didn't receive credit for it and it won't appear on the transcript but counselor will let her move up to precalc in the fall.

Non-MCPS Summer class isn't the important part for this, per se. Just need to show a sympathetic admin/counselor that your student is prepared for the class they want to take.

You sound horribly pushy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid was in compacted math in 5th, and qualified for the magnet middle school lottery (but was not picked). Can't remember her MAP-M, but it was decent.

We asked that she be tested the summer before 6th grade, to enroll in Alg 1 in 6th. The math coordinator at Westland MS gave her a test on Alg 1 topics. Not pre-algebra. She got a couple questions wrong out of 20. He said she couldn't enroll in Alg 1. I had the distinct impression he was trying his best to avoid accelerating anyone. He did the same thing to a couple of DD's friends. It is entirely unfair to demand that students already know the content of the class they are asking to enroll in. MCPS is supposed to test for readiness, not mastery.

As it happened, our kid went to the MCPS virtual academy for 6th anyway, where they were delighted to place her in Alg 1, no questions asked. She returned to Westland for 7th grade, and was placed in Honors Geo, since that was the next class, and was bused to BCC for Alg 2 in 8th grade. Now she's in high school, on track to take an advanced math class at UMD for 12th grade if she wants. Math poses no difficulty for her.

This is outrageous. He should have just said it was not possible instead of making it look like it's your daughter's failure.

In what way is this outrageous? The math coordinator makes the rules. These are kind of the same standards they use for early entry to kindergarten. And 20 questions couldn't have possibly covered the whole Alg. 1 curriculum. Alg. 1 is easy. It could signal that the math coordinator is really rigid or some of you may say a jerk, but it could also show a lack of understanding by the student of some key concepts.

So what if she doesn't understand some key concepts? She will learn them in the class. Did you not understand that she was tested on the mastery of the subject she would be taking that year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you.

The child is zoned for Tilden. What is a CES school?

At least with my experience, counselors at Tilden are unwilling to bump kids up to algebra in 6th. DD knows someone who scored 309 on Map M was still denied advanced placement. My DD ended up taking algebra 2 this summer to get on the fastest track.

Can you expand on little on summer classes? Is this a real possibility?

Yeah, took it through a summer program. She didn't receive credit for it and it won't appear on the transcript but counselor will let her move up to precalc in the fall.

Non-MCPS Summer class isn't the important part for this, per se. Just need to show a sympathetic admin/counselor that your student is prepared for the class they want to take.

You sound horribly pushy.

And you sound angry that some kids are taking more advanced classes. Why does that upset you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you.

The child is zoned for Tilden. What is a CES school?

At least with my experience, counselors at Tilden are unwilling to bump kids up to algebra in 6th. DD knows someone who scored 309 on Map M was still denied advanced placement. My DD ended up taking algebra 2 this summer to get on the fastest track.

Can you expand on little on summer classes? Is this a real possibility?

Yeah, took it through a summer program. She didn't receive credit for it and it won't appear on the transcript but counselor will let her move up to precalc in the fall.

That sounds like a really bad idea as the summer classes are no where as good as the regular classes as they are very rushed. We've done some for prep and no way you can learn it all in 6 weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you.

The child is zoned for Tilden. What is a CES school?

At least with my experience, counselors at Tilden are unwilling to bump kids up to algebra in 6th. DD knows someone who scored 309 on Map M was still denied advanced placement. My DD ended up taking algebra 2 this summer to get on the fastest track.

Can you expand on little on summer classes? Is this a real possibility?

Yeah, took it through a summer program. She didn't receive credit for it and it won't appear on the transcript but counselor will let her move up to precalc in the fall.

Non-MCPS Summer class isn't the important part for this, per se. Just need to show a sympathetic admin/counselor that your student is prepared for the class they want to take.

You sound horribly pushy.

And you sound angry that some kids are taking more advanced classes. Why does that upset you?

Something sounds off about this. My child has done some prep classes at the privates and they offered to transfer the classes to MCPS. So, what kind of class is this? The credit should transfer. We were offered for each class, but declined.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not familiar with MCPS but pre algebra is usually what they take before Algebra 1.

So whatever the course is named make sure it has a solid pre algebra foundation.

Check out Kahn Academy or Matthelp to get a feel for what they need to know before Algebra 1.

What is the equivalent of pre algebra in mcps curriculum?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not familiar with MCPS but pre algebra is usually what they take before Algebra 1.

So whatever the course is named make sure it has a solid pre algebra foundation.

Check out Kahn Academy or Matthelp to get a feel for what they need to know before Algebra 1.

What is the equivalent of pre algebra in mcps curriculum?

It used to be AIM for 6th graders. I don't know about the new classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not familiar with MCPS but pre algebra is usually what they take before Algebra 1.

So whatever the course is named make sure it has a solid pre algebra foundation.

Check out Kahn Academy or Matthelp to get a feel for what they need to know before Algebra 1.

What is the equivalent of pre algebra in mcps curriculum?

It used to be AIM for 6th graders. I don't know about the new classes.

It's still AIM6 in some schools, AMP7+ in others. Similar material, different curriculum provider. AMP7+ is the newer curriculum provider but it hasn't been rolled out to all schools yet. Either will lead to Algebra 1 in 7th and honors geo in 8th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you.

The child is zoned for Tilden. What is a CES school?

At least with my experience, counselors at Tilden are unwilling to bump kids up to algebra in 6th. DD knows someone who scored 309 on Map M was still denied advanced placement. My DD ended up taking algebra 2 this summer to get on the fastest track.

Can you expand on little on summer classes? Is this a real possibility?

Yeah, took it through a summer program. She didn't receive credit for it and it won't appear on the transcript but counselor will let her move up to precalc in the fall.

That sounds like a really bad idea as the summer classes are no where as good as the regular classes as they are very rushed. We've done some for prep and no way you can learn it all in 6 weeks.

The course was through cty, not mcps summer school and she also went through Khan academy's algebra 2 for extra practice. She's completed the summer homework for students entering precalc and she says she gets the material.