Taylor Swift trip. I hate Poland. Everyone tries to scam you

[Anonymous]

Didn’t you whine to Daily Mail as well?

[Anonymous]

No one is focusing on the right thing here…
OP, the show was amazing!!! At least the grainy live stream we watched surprise songs on was.
Mirrorball AND New Year’s Day???
I hope you were able to enjoy that!
We went last year but if I could afford it I would have taken us this year to see the new Tortured Poets set. Female Rage:The Musical🤍

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why everyone is so harsh to OP. I travel a decent amount, a few countries a year, and use booking.com all the time, so I wouldn't consider than an amatuer mistake. (I admit I usually use it for hotels but once for an apt but that apt was very nice).

And the cab thing happens all over, but again, you usually CAN just trust a driver to take you where you need to go on an agreed-upon or metered price.

People are being harsh to OP because she had a couple of one off bad experiences (which could have happened anywhere) and in response is taking to the internet to write off and demean an entire country.

She comes across as extremely immature and inept.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why everyone is so harsh to OP. I travel a decent amount, a few countries a year, and use booking.com all the time, so I wouldn't consider than an amatuer mistake. (I admit I usually use it for hotels but once for an apt but that apt was very nice).

And the cab thing happens all over, but again, you usually CAN just trust a driver to take you where you need to go on an agreed-upon or metered price.

OP is getting hate because she chose to frame this as "I hate Poland. Everyone tries to scam you."

If she'd just put up a post about some frustrating travel experiences people would commiserate more. It's DCUM so some posters would still be condescending or say it was her fault but there would be less vitriol.

But OP is blaming the country of Poland for a couple bad experiences with (US-based!) corporations and one bad cabbie. That's ridiculous and not the attitude of any seasoned traveler. I mean, every time I go to Mexico I get people trying to trick me into a time share presentation at the airport. Does that mean Mexico is just a country of scam artists? Of course not, it means always be on guard in situations where you make an easy mark. I also once booked a crap AirBnB in Austin that turned out to have fraudulent reviews and fake photos. Does that mean Texas is full of scammers? No, it means I need to be more cautious when booking through AirBnB.

A lot of people can relate to OP's bad experiences but the choice to blame Poland and it's people for them is "Ugly American tourist" behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve traveled all over the world and in many underdeveloped countries.

I have never encountered so much scamming as I did in Poland.

They scammed us by renting out an apartment on Booking.com full of bed bugs and no access to kitchen.

Taxi driver scammed us by dropping us off at a wrong location and telling us our destination is around the corner.

We almost got scammed with Taylor Swift concert tickets too. There was at least a hundred of people who bought tickets on Stubhub and although their names were on the tickets , the name inside QR code didn’t match and they would not let them in.

We got lucky by chance. They denied us the first time, but we tried again and they didn’t check our names the second time. Stubhub is going to be so screwed by Polish concerts.

I’m never coming back. I thought it was a developed European country because they are part of EU. Wrong.

That sounds like a stubhub problem. The should go under because the ticketmaster business model makes theirs unsustainable. The whole premise of stubhub is a reliable secondary market, but ticketmaster won't let them act as a middle man, so the reliable part isn't there

It’s also not a scam. A scam is never getting tickets or getting fake tickets. OP’s seller forgot or neglected to change the name of the ticket to hers. Some attendants check, most don’t- she got in with the ticket with an attendant who didn’t check so she was NOT scammed.

It's not a scam, it's a weakness of stubhub not being an official reseller. Things like this happen all the time because stubhub never takes possession of the tickets and has no independent ability to live up to any of their guarantees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You booked accommodation on Airbnb, a site with no quality control.

You took a taxi without looking at your destination on a map. (Too cheap to pay for a data plan?)

You booked tickets on Stubhub, a site with no quality control. (Sensing a pattern here.)

Op, POLAND is not your problem. If you’re going through life with a due diligence strategy of “Other people are responsible for giving me what I want,” then what you get is… this. This is all on you, ducky.

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OP the problem is you are trying to do a trip on the cheap. Everything you said could and does happen to tourists in the states, too.

[Anonymous]

OP is a He. He paid an outrageous amount and prevented local people from enjoying the show. That they scammed him back seems only fair

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve traveled all over the world and in many underdeveloped countries.

I have never encountered so much scamming as I did in Poland.

They scammed us by renting out an apartment on Booking.com full of bed bugs and no access to kitchen.

Taxi driver scammed us by dropping us off at a wrong location and telling us our destination is around the corner.

We almost got scammed with Taylor Swift concert tickets too. There was at least a hundred of people who bought tickets on Stubhub and although their names were on the tickets , the name inside QR code didn’t match and they would not let them in.

We got lucky by chance. They denied us the first time, but we tried again and they didn’t check our names the second time. Stubhub is going to be so screwed by Polish concerts.

I’m never coming back. I thought it was a developed European country because they are part of EU. Wrong.

That sounds like a stubhub problem. The should go under because the ticketmaster business model makes theirs unsustainable. The whole premise of stubhub is a reliable secondary market, but ticketmaster won't let them act as a middle man, so the reliable part isn't there

It’s also not a scam. A scam is never getting tickets or getting fake tickets. OP’s seller forgot or neglected to change the name of the ticket to hers. Some attendants check, most don’t- she got in with the ticket with an attendant who didn’t check so she was NOT scammed.

It's not a scam, it's a weakness of stubhub not being an official reseller. Things like this happen all the time because stubhub never takes possession of the tickets and has no independent ability to live up to any of their guarantees.

Ok, but, like everything else OP attributes to being a scam, it was not a scam. The tickets were valid!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You booked accommodation on Airbnb, a site with no quality control.

You took a taxi without looking at your destination on a map. (Too cheap to pay for a data plan?)

You booked tickets on Stubhub, a site with no quality control. (Sensing a pattern here.)

Op, POLAND is not your problem. If you’re going through life with a due diligence strategy of “Other people are responsible for giving me what I want,” then what you get is… this. This is all on you, ducky.

Actually,

1. I do have a data plan on my phone. It didn’t occur to me that I needed to micromanage the taxi driver.

2. Stubhub has very good customer service. They issued us another set of tickets after I complained.

We ended up seating in our original seats. They were legit. It was some bs Polish bureaucracy.

Also, forgot to mention, all the guide tours we had were really bad. Don’t hire tours, do it yourself with audio guides.

Again OP don’t do another country in the cheap. If you think a pre recorded audio tour is the way to go, that says a lot about your lack of desire for interaction or to learn more about a place. Stay at a high ends hotel and have the concierge arrange everything for you. We went in June and had some of the best tour guides we’ve ever had. It’s a lot different to hear about what someone’s grandparents did in WWII at the site you’re looking at or have your teenagers be able to chat to the guide about how that aspect of polish schooling is different from the US. Pre-recorded tours are a cheap and sad way to go.

[Anonymous]

I spent a month in Poland and never got scammed once. I think you're the issue.

[Anonymous]

Again, OP is an insufferable turd giving Americans a bad name. The Polish scammers are only giving him a taste of his own medicine.

Read all about this male Karen in todays Daily Mail

[Anonymous]

It’s me, hi, I’m the problem it’s me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, OP is an insufferable turd giving Americans a bad name. The Polish scammers are only giving him a taste of his own medicine.

Read all about this male Karen in todays Daily Mail

The daily Mail guy allegedly regularly travels to Poland to help with refugee efforts so not OP.

[Anonymous]

He’s the OP. And regularly travels is bullshit

Poland hates you back OP. You’ve prevented 4 little girls from Poland from seeing Swift.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve traveled all over the world and in many underdeveloped countries.

I have never encountered so much scamming as I did in Poland.

They scammed us by renting out an apartment on Booking.com full of bed bugs and no access to kitchen.

Taxi driver scammed us by dropping us off at a wrong location and telling us our destination is around the corner.

We almost got scammed with Taylor Swift concert tickets too. There was at least a hundred of people who bought tickets on Stubhub and although their names were on the tickets , the name inside QR code didn’t match and they would not let them in.

We got lucky by chance. They denied us the first time, but we tried again and they didn’t check our names the second time. Stubhub is going to be so screwed by Polish concerts.

I’m never coming back. I thought it was a developed European country because they are part of EU. Wrong.

That sounds like a stubhub problem. The should go under because the ticketmaster business model makes theirs unsustainable. The whole premise of stubhub is a reliable secondary market, but ticketmaster won't let them act as a middle man, so the reliable part isn't there

It’s also not a scam. A scam is never getting tickets or getting fake tickets. OP’s seller forgot or neglected to change the name of the ticket to hers. Some attendants check, most don’t- she got in with the ticket with an attendant who didn’t check so she was NOT scammed.

It's not a scam, it's a weakness of stubhub not being an official reseller. Things like this happen all the time because stubhub never takes possession of the tickets and has no independent ability to live up to any of their guarantees.

Ok, but, like everything else OP attributes to being a scam, it was not a scam. The tickets were valid!

It depends on how you define valid. To me, a valid ticket is a ticket that gets you entry into the event. By that definition, they were not valid