Curie learning vs RSM for middle school and High school

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much ! That really helps . If anyone can talk about curie that would help us to decide .

I'd read that many kids who attended Curie were getting into TJ in droves. It was such a huge percentage of their class that they took out an ad in the paper to list the names of all their clients who got in which was very impressive.

Ashburn.Indian.FOMO

Attracting good students is the secret to a successful school

They also low key chase away the less talented students.

[Anonymous]

Not sure how they offer it now, but Curie previously had two tracks, an advanced track with heavy math that a goog number quit midway, and a regular track that's normal math, english, science enrichment. In one of these tracks, likely the advanced, they offer add-on lessons for TJ/AOS interested applicants. Math goes frustratingly fast in advanced track.

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Anonymous wrote:DC just moved to AAP ( will start in this fall) . We moved here last fall but DC was in GT program in different state . So I’m new to this IAAT and level IV and here I see most of my kids classmates are doing some kind of math enrichment . So just wanted to learn about IAAT and about various math enrichments .

That makes sense. Most kids don't really do any prep for the IAAT. It's not a hard test. What can be hard for some kids is that it is a *timed* test. They have to answer 4 sets of 15 questions, and have 10 minutes per set, for a total of 40 minutes for 60 questions. In FCPS, this is likely the first timed test they encounter, and a lot of kids end up with poor scores because of time management issues, not because they don't know the material (up to that point, kids are strongly encouraged to double and triple check their work, and this test is not the time to do it). Take a look at the description of the sections, and see if your kid can work on problems in those domains quickly and accurately. When DD took it, we mostly focused on the 'data analysis' part of the test, because reading charts and graphs were de-emphasized due to COVID, and she really didn't know how.

Most kids that are serious prep for every test. It's only slackers that don't. The prep arms race is real. You're either a winner or a loser.

If you are only prepping for tests, you are losing.
Cram schools are basically low rent private schools that operate without accreditation above a bodega.
For a highly motivated student, Khan academy has everything but that sort of motivation is 1 in a hundred.

Khan academy is a gift from the above. We love it! DC attends Curie, and does Khan academy as well, since it's interesting. What else is out there similar to Khan A, that's free?

Alcumus, schoolyourself, MIT OCW

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Anonymous wrote:DC just moved to AAP ( will start in this fall) . We moved here last fall but DC was in GT program in different state . So I’m new to this IAAT and level IV and here I see most of my kids classmates are doing some kind of math enrichment . So just wanted to learn about IAAT and about various math enrichments .

That makes sense. Most kids don't really do any prep for the IAAT. It's not a hard test. What can be hard for some kids is that it is a *timed* test. They have to answer 4 sets of 15 questions, and have 10 minutes per set, for a total of 40 minutes for 60 questions. In FCPS, this is likely the first timed test they encounter, and a lot of kids end up with poor scores because of time management issues, not because they don't know the material (up to that point, kids are strongly encouraged to double and triple check their work, and this test is not the time to do it). Take a look at the description of the sections, and see if your kid can work on problems in those domains quickly and accurately. When DD took it, we mostly focused on the 'data analysis' part of the test, because reading charts and graphs were de-emphasized due to COVID, and she really didn't know how.

Most kids that are serious prep for every test. It's only slackers that don't. The prep arms race is real. You're either a winner or a loser.

If you are only prepping for tests, you are losing.
Cram schools are basically low rent private schools that operate without accreditation above a bodega.
For a highly motivated student, Khan academy has everything but that sort of motivation is 1 in a hundred.

Khan academy is a gift from the above. We love it! DC attends Curie, and does Khan academy as well, since it's interesting. What else is out there similar to Khan A, that's free?

Alcumus, schoolyourself, MIT OCW

Khan academy is great if you want a free resource but not really comparable to many for pay enrichment options available like AoPS or RSM. People claiming otherwise are just lying.

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Anonymous wrote:DC just moved to AAP ( will start in this fall) . We moved here last fall but DC was in GT program in different state . So I’m new to this IAAT and level IV and here I see most of my kids classmates are doing some kind of math enrichment . So just wanted to learn about IAAT and about various math enrichments .

That makes sense. Most kids don't really do any prep for the IAAT. It's not a hard test. What can be hard for some kids is that it is a *timed* test. They have to answer 4 sets of 15 questions, and have 10 minutes per set, for a total of 40 minutes for 60 questions. In FCPS, this is likely the first timed test they encounter, and a lot of kids end up with poor scores because of time management issues, not because they don't know the material (up to that point, kids are strongly encouraged to double and triple check their work, and this test is not the time to do it). Take a look at the description of the sections, and see if your kid can work on problems in those domains quickly and accurately. When DD took it, we mostly focused on the 'data analysis' part of the test, because reading charts and graphs were de-emphasized due to COVID, and she really didn't know how.

Most kids that are serious prep for every test. It's only slackers that don't. The prep arms race is real. You're either a winner or a loser.

If you are only prepping for tests, you are losing.
Cram schools are basically low rent private schools that operate without accreditation above a bodega.
For a highly motivated student, Khan academy has everything but that sort of motivation is 1 in a hundred.

Khan academy is a gift from the above. We love it! DC attends Curie, and does Khan academy as well, since it's interesting. What else is out there similar to Khan A, that's free?

Alcumus, schoolyourself, MIT OCW

Khan academy is great if you want a free resource but not really comparable to many for pay enrichment options available like AoPS or RSM. People claiming otherwise are just lying.

Are you suggesting that students enroll in Curie, RSM, etc., instead of relying solely on the free Khan academy? Sure if the student is self disciplined, they dont need anything more than Khan Academy. Otherwise, a paid enrichment appears to be a popular choice, especially for those not sufficiently challenged at their public school.

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Anonymous wrote:DC just moved to AAP ( will start in this fall) . We moved here last fall but DC was in GT program in different state . So I’m new to this IAAT and level IV and here I see most of my kids classmates are doing some kind of math enrichment . So just wanted to learn about IAAT and about various math enrichments .

That makes sense. Most kids don't really do any prep for the IAAT. It's not a hard test. What can be hard for some kids is that it is a *timed* test. They have to answer 4 sets of 15 questions, and have 10 minutes per set, for a total of 40 minutes for 60 questions. In FCPS, this is likely the first timed test they encounter, and a lot of kids end up with poor scores because of time management issues, not because they don't know the material (up to that point, kids are strongly encouraged to double and triple check their work, and this test is not the time to do it). Take a look at the description of the sections, and see if your kid can work on problems in those domains quickly and accurately. When DD took it, we mostly focused on the 'data analysis' part of the test, because reading charts and graphs were de-emphasized due to COVID, and she really didn't know how.

Most kids that are serious prep for every test. It's only slackers that don't. The prep arms race is real. You're either a winner or a loser.

If you are only prepping for tests, you are losing.
Cram schools are basically low rent private schools that operate without accreditation above a bodega.
For a highly motivated student, Khan academy has everything but that sort of motivation is 1 in a hundred.

Khan academy is a gift from the above. We love it! DC attends Curie, and does Khan academy as well, since it's interesting. What else is out there similar to Khan A, that's free?

Alcumus, schoolyourself, MIT OCW

Khan academy is great if you want a free resource but not really comparable to many for pay enrichment options available like AoPS or RSM. People claiming otherwise are just lying.

Are you suggesting that students enroll in Curie, RSM, etc., instead of relying solely on the free Khan academy? Sure if the student is self disciplined, they dont need anything more than Khan Academy. Otherwise, a paid enrichment appears to be a popular choice, especially for those not sufficiently challenged at their public school.

Khan Academy material is too basic. A self disciplined student should work on Alcumus, or (e)books of Art of Problem Solving

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC just moved to AAP ( will start in this fall) . We moved here last fall but DC was in GT program in different state . So I’m new to this IAAT and level IV and here I see most of my kids classmates are doing some kind of math enrichment . So just wanted to learn about IAAT and about various math enrichments .

That makes sense. Most kids don't really do any prep for the IAAT. It's not a hard test. What can be hard for some kids is that it is a *timed* test. They have to answer 4 sets of 15 questions, and have 10 minutes per set, for a total of 40 minutes for 60 questions. In FCPS, this is likely the first timed test they encounter, and a lot of kids end up with poor scores because of time management issues, not because they don't know the material (up to that point, kids are strongly encouraged to double and triple check their work, and this test is not the time to do it). Take a look at the description of the sections, and see if your kid can work on problems in those domains quickly and accurately. When DD took it, we mostly focused on the 'data analysis' part of the test, because reading charts and graphs were de-emphasized due to COVID, and she really didn't know how.

Most kids that are serious prep for every test. It's only slackers that don't. The prep arms race is real. You're either a winner or a loser.

If you are only prepping for tests, you are losing.
Cram schools are basically low rent private schools that operate without accreditation above a bodega.
For a highly motivated student, Khan academy has everything but that sort of motivation is 1 in a hundred.

Khan academy is a gift from the above. We love it! DC attends Curie, and does Khan academy as well, since it's interesting. What else is out there similar to Khan A, that's free?

Alcumus, schoolyourself, MIT OCW

Khan academy is great if you want a free resource but not really comparable to many for pay enrichment options available like AoPS or RSM. People claiming otherwise are just lying.

Are you suggesting that students enroll in Curie, RSM, etc., instead of relying solely on the free Khan academy? Sure if the student is self disciplined, they dont need anything more than Khan Academy. Otherwise, a paid enrichment appears to be a popular choice, especially for those not sufficiently challenged at their public school.

Can't really argue with success. Over 30% of TJ's entering class came from Curie the year they published the names in the paper. Other than the kook who wants to pretend that free resources give all children equal chances while dumping $20k into their own child's outside enrichment, nobody buys that having access to Khan Academy provides the same advantages as elite prep.

[Anonymous]

Just do Khan Academy. There is nothing as good as KA.

[Anonymous]

Do whatever you are comfortable with. My child wanted to be in person and with other kids so we did RSM. He wanted more of a challenge so we dropped the grade level math and focused on the National Math Competition Program at RSM. It is a virtual class but it moves faster and is far more challenging then the grade level class at RSM. He prefers that to the pure online, chat options at AoPS, he completed one of those this summer. He might do another one next summer because it was fine but he likes the live, class with a Teacher that he can talk to and not chat with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much ! That really helps . If anyone can talk about curie that would help us to decide .

I'd read that many kids who attended Curie were getting into TJ in droves. It was such a huge percentage of their class that they took out an ad in the paper to list the names of all their clients who got in which was very impressive.

Ashburn.Indian.FOMO

Attracting good students is the secret to a successful school

They also low key chase away the less talented students.

It's not that subtle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC just moved to AAP ( will start in this fall) . We moved here last fall but DC was in GT program in different state . So I’m new to this IAAT and level IV and here I see most of my kids classmates are doing some kind of math enrichment . So just wanted to learn about IAAT and about various math enrichments .

That makes sense. Most kids don't really do any prep for the IAAT. It's not a hard test. What can be hard for some kids is that it is a *timed* test. They have to answer 4 sets of 15 questions, and have 10 minutes per set, for a total of 40 minutes for 60 questions. In FCPS, this is likely the first timed test they encounter, and a lot of kids end up with poor scores because of time management issues, not because they don't know the material (up to that point, kids are strongly encouraged to double and triple check their work, and this test is not the time to do it). Take a look at the description of the sections, and see if your kid can work on problems in those domains quickly and accurately. When DD took it, we mostly focused on the 'data analysis' part of the test, because reading charts and graphs were de-emphasized due to COVID, and she really didn't know how.

Most kids that are serious prep for every test. It's only slackers that don't. The prep arms race is real. You're either a winner or a loser.

If you are only prepping for tests, you are losing.
Cram schools are basically low rent private schools that operate without accreditation above a bodega.
For a highly motivated student, Khan academy has everything but that sort of motivation is 1 in a hundred.

Khan academy is a gift from the above. We love it! DC attends Curie, and does Khan academy as well, since it's interesting. What else is out there similar to Khan A, that's free?

Alcumus, schoolyourself, MIT OCW

Khan academy is great if you want a free resource but not really comparable to many for pay enrichment options available like AoPS or RSM. People claiming otherwise are just lying.

Are you suggesting that students enroll in Curie, RSM, etc., instead of relying solely on the free Khan academy? Sure if the student is self disciplined, they dont need anything more than Khan Academy. Otherwise, a paid enrichment appears to be a popular choice, especially for those not sufficiently challenged at their public school.

Khan Academy material is too basic. A self disciplined student should work on Alcumus, or (e)books of Art of Problem Solving

Stop giving out the pro tips!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just do Khan Academy. There is nothing as good as KA.

DC started out with Khan A but sticking to a consistent schedule was a challenge. So that's where Curie Learning came in. Cuire just like any other enrichment teaches the same middle math and english, but at an in-depth level and faster pace. As needed Khan A still comes in handy for tackling specific challenging topics.

[Anonymous]

Pretty sure we would not be welcome at Curie. We are East Asian, not South Asian, and at Curie that might matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure we would not be welcome at Curie. We are East Asian, not South Asian, and at Curie that might matter.

Whether you're North/South/East/West Asian or from another background may not matter to Curie. What should worry you more is whether your student can pass Curie's placement test to begin with and, if they do, whether they can survive their entire curriculum through completion. Only about one-third of students complete it with mastery, while the lower third, including many Asian students, give up midway and never return.

[Anonymous]

Curie is just for academically below average kids in STEM whose parents want to make them look like above average kids. These kids might be above average in a hundred other things like arts, sports, languages, etc.

The whole of Indian community bought into the FOMO created by Curie. How can you not be? If you have a dozen of your friends kids going into Curie, you would be worried if only your kid is not going there. That is how, nearly half of Indian community's kids end up there.