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Anonymous wrote:The inconvenient truth is that elite STEM high schools in this country don't compel their top students to take AB and BC as a sequence. That's not the way things work at TJ in Fairfax, Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech, Talented and Gifted Dallas, top privates like Andover and Exeter etc. BASIS isn't a franchise run by educators, which sometimes shows. And they wonder why they don't get more than 1 or 2 grads to Ivies and elite tech programs like MIT and Cal Tech annually.

BASIS is not an elite STEM high school like the list of schools you provided. A kid destined for the Ivies or MIT is not going to be stopped because they took the AB the BC calculus sequence at BASIS.

Come back and complain / criticize once BASIS becomes a top test in HS. Till then, please stop criticizing it.

I'll criticize what I like; you do the same. The sequence is a waste of time for the most advanced math students who could readily learn AB content in BC calc. That's how calc has generally been taught in the strongest high schools around the country for two generations.

We had students in the BASIS middle school, so we know how their admins preaches the gospel of the franchise running elite STEM programs, to its to try to entice the most capable students to stay for HS. We also know how BASIS favors one-size-fits-all academic options that have a way of bogging down their most advanced students in elite college admissions. BASIS could aim higher for a particularly math savvy subset of high school students, but doesn't bother.

The most advanced BASIS kids, like mine, take Calc AB in 8th and Calc BC in 9th. Yes, he could have easily learned all of the BC material in 8th. We don't mind, though. Very few other schools would have allowed that level of acceleration, even if the kid is entirely capable.

To some extent, we accept that BASIS is a one-size-fits-all school with relatively little flexibility. The school is too small to be anything else. If you want a lot of flexibility, course offerings, extracurriculars, etc., then a large public school would be a better fit.

I bought this line, until we switched to a strong DC parochial school with a high school that's even smaller. Surprise. We've found far more flexibility, more robust course offerings and better extra curriculars at this school. The lack of flexibility is obviously more a function of weak, inexperienced admins running BASIS than size. Funding is also an issue, but the BASIS doesn't permit PTAs to fundraise and allocate funds. They permit a booster club to hand money raised over to admins. Total BS.

Shocking development! A school that charges tuition has better offerings than BASIS and DCPS.

So she says.

Sorry, Our Lady of Victory catholic school doesn’t come close to Basis.

I'd go with almost any reputable parochial school over BASIS' half-baked writing instruction and weak community if I had the funds. Math instruction is a different story.

Bye.

Enjoy (and don’t forget your rosary).

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Anonymous wrote:The inconvenient truth is that elite STEM high schools in this country don't compel their top students to take AB and BC as a sequence. That's not the way things work at TJ in Fairfax, Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech, Talented and Gifted Dallas, top privates like Andover and Exeter etc. BASIS isn't a franchise run by educators, which sometimes shows. And they wonder why they don't get more than 1 or 2 grads to Ivies and elite tech programs like MIT and Cal Tech annually.

BASIS is not an elite STEM high school like the list of schools you provided. A kid destined for the Ivies or MIT is not going to be stopped because they took the AB the BC calculus sequence at BASIS.

Come back and complain / criticize once BASIS becomes a top test in HS. Till then, please stop criticizing it.

I'll criticize what I like; you do the same. The sequence is a waste of time for the most advanced math students who could readily learn AB content in BC calc. That's how calc has generally been taught in the strongest high schools around the country for two generations.

We had students in the BASIS middle school, so we know how their admins preaches the gospel of the franchise running elite STEM programs, to its to try to entice the most capable students to stay for HS. We also know how BASIS favors one-size-fits-all academic options that have a way of bogging down their most advanced students in elite college admissions. BASIS could aim higher for a particularly math savvy subset of high school students, but doesn't bother.

The most advanced BASIS kids, like mine, take Calc AB in 8th and Calc BC in 9th. Yes, he could have easily learned all of the BC material in 8th. We don't mind, though. Very few other schools would have allowed that level of acceleration, even if the kid is entirely capable.

To some extent, we accept that BASIS is a one-size-fits-all school with relatively little flexibility. The school is too small to be anything else. If you want a lot of flexibility, course offerings, extracurriculars, etc., then a large public school would be a better fit.

I bought this line, until we switched to a strong DC parochial school with a high school that's even smaller. Surprise. We've found far more flexibility, more robust course offerings and better extra curriculars at this school. The lack of flexibility is obviously more a function of weak, inexperienced admins running BASIS than size. Funding is also an issue, but the BASIS doesn't permit PTAs to fundraise and allocate funds. They permit a booster club to hand money raised over to admins. Total BS.

There's a catholic high school out there with < 70 kids per graduating class that still offers 1-2 post AP Calc BC classes as well as a full load of science APs?

I bet they're referring to St. Anselm's Benedictine abbey high school up in NE. If yes, they're right. That school's graduating class is only 45 or 50 and they teach every science AP BASIS teaches plus 1 or 2 more Physics APs. We applied, my kid was admitted, but we couldn't afford to send him. BASIS' issues w/flexibility obviously don't start and end with their small size, or resource base for that matter. Leadership matters.

Who know what school they are referring to?

But, whatever, SAAS costs $50,000 a year and BASIS DC costs $0 a year.

I would rather spend $350,000 on something else but if you hate BASIS's administration so much that you want to pay that, be my guest.

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Anonymous wrote:The inconvenient truth is that elite STEM high schools in this country don't compel their top students to take AB and BC as a sequence. That's not the way things work at TJ in Fairfax, Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech, Talented and Gifted Dallas, top privates like Andover and Exeter etc. BASIS isn't a franchise run by educators, which sometimes shows. And they wonder why they don't get more than 1 or 2 grads to Ivies and elite tech programs like MIT and Cal Tech annually.

BASIS is not an elite STEM high school like the list of schools you provided. A kid destined for the Ivies or MIT is not going to be stopped because they took the AB the BC calculus sequence at BASIS.

Come back and complain / criticize once BASIS becomes a top test in HS. Till then, please stop criticizing it.

I'll criticize what I like; you do the same. The sequence is a waste of time for the most advanced math students who could readily learn AB content in BC calc. That's how calc has generally been taught in the strongest high schools around the country for two generations.

We had students in the BASIS middle school, so we know how their admins preaches the gospel of the franchise running elite STEM programs, to its to try to entice the most capable students to stay for HS. We also know how BASIS favors one-size-fits-all academic options that have a way of bogging down their most advanced students in elite college admissions. BASIS could aim higher for a particularly math savvy subset of high school students, but doesn't bother.

The most advanced BASIS kids, like mine, take Calc AB in 8th and Calc BC in 9th. Yes, he could have easily learned all of the BC material in 8th. We don't mind, though. Very few other schools would have allowed that level of acceleration, even if the kid is entirely capable.

To some extent, we accept that BASIS is a one-size-fits-all school with relatively little flexibility. The school is too small to be anything else. If you want a lot of flexibility, course offerings, extracurriculars, etc., then a large public school would be a better fit.

I bought this line, until we switched to a strong DC parochial school with a high school that's even smaller. Surprise. We've found far more flexibility, more robust course offerings and better extra curriculars at this school. The lack of flexibility is obviously more a function of weak, inexperienced admins running BASIS than size. Funding is also an issue, but the BASIS doesn't permit PTAs to fundraise and allocate funds. They permit a booster club to hand money raised over to admins. Total BS.

There's a catholic high school out there with < 70 kids per graduating class that still offers 1-2 post AP Calc BC classes as well as a full load of science APs?

I bet they're referring to St. Anselm's Benedictine abbey high school up in NE. If yes, they're right. That school's graduating class is only 45 or 50 and they teach every science AP BASIS teaches plus 1 or 2 more Physics APs. We applied, my kid was admitted, but we couldn't afford to send him. BASIS' issues w/flexibility obviously don't start and end with their small size, or resource base for that matter. Leadership matters.

Who know what school they are referring to?

But, whatever, SAAS costs $50,000 a year and BASIS DC costs $0 a year.

I would rather spend $350,000 on something else but if you hate BASIS's administration so much that you want to pay that, be my guest.

+1. It's absurd to blame leadership of a school when a lottery admissions public charter has lesser offerings than a very expensive, elite private. The private is getting significantly more money per student, and they can handpick only exceptionally high performers in their admissions process.

FWIW, though SAAS only appears to offer math through calc BC.

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I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

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Anonymous wrote:The inconvenient truth is that elite STEM high schools in this country don't compel their top students to take AB and BC as a sequence. That's not the way things work at TJ in Fairfax, Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech, Talented and Gifted Dallas, top privates like Andover and Exeter etc. BASIS isn't a franchise run by educators, which sometimes shows. And they wonder why they don't get more than 1 or 2 grads to Ivies and elite tech programs like MIT and Cal Tech annually.

BASIS is not an elite STEM high school like the list of schools you provided. A kid destined for the Ivies or MIT is not going to be stopped because they took the AB the BC calculus sequence at BASIS.

Come back and complain / criticize once BASIS becomes a top test in HS. Till then, please stop criticizing it.

I'll criticize what I like; you do the same. The sequence is a waste of time for the most advanced math students who could readily learn AB content in BC calc. That's how calc has generally been taught in the strongest high schools around the country for two generations.

We had students in the BASIS middle school, so we know how their admins preaches the gospel of the franchise running elite STEM programs, to its to try to entice the most capable students to stay for HS. We also know how BASIS favors one-size-fits-all academic options that have a way of bogging down their most advanced students in elite college admissions. BASIS could aim higher for a particularly math savvy subset of high school students, but doesn't bother.

The most advanced BASIS kids, like mine, take Calc AB in 8th and Calc BC in 9th. Yes, he could have easily learned all of the BC material in 8th. We don't mind, though. Very few other schools would have allowed that level of acceleration, even if the kid is entirely capable.

To some extent, we accept that BASIS is a one-size-fits-all school with relatively little flexibility. The school is too small to be anything else. If you want a lot of flexibility, course offerings, extracurriculars, etc., then a large public school would be a better fit.

I bought this line, until we switched to a strong DC parochial school with a high school that's even smaller. Surprise. We've found far more flexibility, more robust course offerings and better extra curriculars at this school. The lack of flexibility is obviously more a function of weak, inexperienced admins running BASIS than size. Funding is also an issue, but the BASIS doesn't permit PTAs to fundraise and allocate funds. They permit a booster club to hand money raised over to admins. Total BS.

There's a catholic high school out there with < 70 kids per graduating class that still offers 1-2 post AP Calc BC classes as well as a full load of science APs?

I bet they're referring to St. Anselm's Benedictine abbey high school up in NE. If yes, they're right. That school's graduating class is only 45 or 50 and they teach every science AP BASIS teaches plus 1 or 2 more Physics APs. We applied, my kid was admitted, but we couldn't afford to send him. BASIS' issues w/flexibility obviously don't start and end with their small size, or resource base for that matter. Leadership matters.

Who know what school they are referring to?

But, whatever, SAAS costs $50,000 a year and BASIS DC costs $0 a year.

I would rather spend $350,000 on something else but if you hate BASIS's administration so much that you want to pay that, be my guest.

SAAS is expensive, yes. Not 50K. 36K.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Sounds like you have a huge chip on your shoulder.

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Wrong. PP doesn't appear to have any chip on their shoulder. What's happening is that you're wearing rose colored glasses at BASIS as you look ahead to high school. No secret that the admins are a real problem and the teens in the building have figured that much out, whatever math trajectory they might be on.

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Anonymous wrote:The inconvenient truth is that elite STEM high schools in this country don't compel their top students to take AB and BC as a sequence. That's not the way things work at TJ in Fairfax, Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech, Talented and Gifted Dallas, top privates like Andover and Exeter etc. BASIS isn't a franchise run by educators, which sometimes shows. And they wonder why they don't get more than 1 or 2 grads to Ivies and elite tech programs like MIT and Cal Tech annually.

BASIS is not an elite STEM high school like the list of schools you provided. A kid destined for the Ivies or MIT is not going to be stopped because they took the AB the BC calculus sequence at BASIS.

Come back and complain / criticize once BASIS becomes a top test in HS. Till then, please stop criticizing it.

I'll criticize what I like; you do the same. The sequence is a waste of time for the most advanced math students who could readily learn AB content in BC calc. That's how calc has generally been taught in the strongest high schools around the country for two generations.

We had students in the BASIS middle school, so we know how their admins preaches the gospel of the franchise running elite STEM programs, to its to try to entice the most capable students to stay for HS. We also know how BASIS favors one-size-fits-all academic options that have a way of bogging down their most advanced students in elite college admissions. BASIS could aim higher for a particularly math savvy subset of high school students, but doesn't bother.

The most advanced BASIS kids, like mine, take Calc AB in 8th and Calc BC in 9th. Yes, he could have easily learned all of the BC material in 8th. We don't mind, though. Very few other schools would have allowed that level of acceleration, even if the kid is entirely capable.

To some extent, we accept that BASIS is a one-size-fits-all school with relatively little flexibility. The school is too small to be anything else. If you want a lot of flexibility, course offerings, extracurriculars, etc., then a large public school would be a better fit.

I bought this line, until we switched to a strong DC parochial school with a high school that's even smaller. Surprise. We've found far more flexibility, more robust course offerings and better extra curriculars at this school. The lack of flexibility is obviously more a function of weak, inexperienced admins running BASIS than size. Funding is also an issue, but the BASIS doesn't permit PTAs to fundraise and allocate funds. They permit a booster club to hand money raised over to admins. Total BS.

There's a catholic high school out there with < 70 kids per graduating class that still offers 1-2 post AP Calc BC classes as well as a full load of science APs?

I bet they're referring to St. Anselm's Benedictine abbey high school up in NE. If yes, they're right. That school's graduating class is only 45 or 50 and they teach every science AP BASIS teaches plus 1 or 2 more Physics APs. We applied, my kid was admitted, but we couldn't afford to send him. BASIS' issues w/flexibility obviously don't start and end with their small size, or resource base for that matter. Leadership matters.

Who know what school they are referring to?

But, whatever, SAAS costs $50,000 a year and BASIS DC costs $0 a year.

I would rather spend $350,000 on something else but if you hate BASIS's administration so much that you want to pay that, be my guest.

+1. It's absurd to blame leadership of a school when a lottery admissions public charter has lesser offerings than a very expensive, elite private. The private is getting significantly more money per student, and they can handpick only exceptionally high performers in their admissions process.

FWIW, though SAAS only appears to offer math through calc BC.

No, they offer math through whatever level your student can handle, though most will stop at multivariable. Also, nearly half the students receive financial aid and they've said the goal is to get to 100% free tuition free eventually like Regis in NY. It's worth having a talk with admissions even if cost is a concern.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

You can take higher maths at many schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

My kid's 8th grade BASIS pals? Going all kinds of places: Walls, Banneker, Jackson-Reed, Arlington public high school for a family moving, parochial schools, privates. One has a sibling who pulled them into Latin.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This we wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

Walls has math classes.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

We left basis after 8th, went to Walls. Took Pre Calc in 9th, taking BC Calc next year in 10th

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, particularly for math.

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.

We left basis after 8th, went to Walls. Took Pre Calc in 9th, taking BC Calc next year in 10th

Good for your kid. It's a myth that kids need to stay at BASIS to accelerate in math. J-R and McKinley also offer BC Cal to 10th-12th graders.

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How do these kids do on APs? You need stamina and test taking skills to make it through a 3 hour AP.

College care more about competence than hyper acceleration. They would rather see a 5 on a test taken as a 10th or 11th grader than a 3 or 4 from an 8th grader.