With these TJ freshman grades, continue or transfer to base school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please stop with the Math 4 email from almost 3 years ago that was primarily addressed to kids in this year’s graduating class admitted under the old system. They were getting back to school from covid and were not at there best. Also, the TJ math department never looks inward when students do poorly. It’s ALWAYS the kids fault. They have been pushing this crap long before admissions change.

That was primarily the freshman class under the new system, the class of 2025.
If you took geometry in 8th grade, you take math 3 in the fall and math 4 in the spring.
https://tjhsst.fcps.edu/node/3332
You're either lying or stupid.

It is doubtful that this had anything to do with covid.
The scores from 2021 were higher than the scores from 2022.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/data-policy-funding/data-reports/statistics-reports/sol-test-pass-rates-other-results
See school test by test results and see how at almost every other high school has fairly consistent or improved performance in the advanced pass from 2021 to 2022.
You're either lying or stupid.

[Anonymous]

Diversity versus Merit based placements are the opposite ends of seesaw

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please stop with the Math 4 email from almost 3 years ago that was primarily addressed to kids in this year’s graduating class admitted under the old system. They were getting back to school from covid and were not at there best. Also, the TJ math department never looks inward when students do poorly. It’s ALWAYS the kids fault. They have been pushing this crap long before admissions change.

That was primarily the freshman class under the new system, the class of 2025.
If you took geometry in 8th grade, you take math 3 in the fall and math 4 in the spring.
https://tjhsst.fcps.edu/node/3332
You're either lying or stupid.

It is doubtful that this had anything to do with covid.
The scores from 2021 were higher than the scores from 2022.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/data-policy-funding/data-reports/statistics-reports/sol-test-pass-rates-other-results
See school test by test results and see how at almost every other high school has fairly consistent or improved performance in the advanced pass from 2021 to 2022.
You're either lying or stupid.

Nope. If you took geometry in 8th, you take RS in fall and Math 3 in spring. Only the kids who took algebra 2 in 8th grade would be in that class freshman spring. Truly. I’ll ignore your insults but you clearly don’t have a student at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please stop with the Math 4 email from almost 3 years ago that was primarily addressed to kids in this year’s graduating class admitted under the old system. They were getting back to school from covid and were not at there best. Also, the TJ math department never looks inward when students do poorly. It’s ALWAYS the kids fault. They have been pushing this crap long before admissions change.

That was primarily the freshman class under the new system, the class of 2025.
If you took geometry in 8th grade, you take math 3 in the fall and math 4 in the spring.
https://tjhsst.fcps.edu/node/3332
You're either lying or stupid.

This is not correct. If you took geometry in 8th grade, you take RS1 in fall and Math 3 in spring.

[Anonymous]

Encourage the student to continue at TJ if they're motivated and open to seeking extra help. As a TJ parent, be aware that it gets harder and college admissions are favorable mainly for the top 25% of the class; others may face high out-of-state tuition or lower-ranked in-state schools. It's a challenging environment that can foster growth. If they feel overwhelmed, returning to their base school might offer a more supportive setting. Many parents guide based on their child's stress levels and interest in subjects. For sophomore year, hope for better time management and targeted academic support to boost grades, prioritizing the child's mental health above all.

[Anonymous]

A lot of colleges don't weight 9th quite as heavily as academic rigor and focused extracurriculars. The UC system doesn't look at 9th at all, in case your kid is thinking about applying out of state. However, I'd say transfer to a base school if an east coast 4-year college is the intention. (Which it might not be, don't want to assume.) Base schools have advanced classes and why there is still a lot of pressure, it's not quite as bad as TJ. You might also want to check in on how your child is doing socially--that can have a big impact on academic performance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous[b wrote:]A lot of colleges[/b] don't weight 9th quite as heavily as academic rigor and focused extracurriculars. The UC system doesn't look at 9th at all, in case your kid is thinking about applying out of state. However, I'd say transfer to a base school if an east coast 4-year college is the intention. (Which it might not be, don't want to assume.) Base schools have advanced classes and why there is still a lot of pressure, it's not quite as bad as TJ. You might also want to check in on how your child is doing socially--that can have a big impact on academic performance.

No, not a lot. A few…very few.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of colleges don't weight 9th quite as heavily as academic rigor and focused extracurriculars. The UC system doesn't look at 9th at all, in case your kid is thinking about applying out of state. However, I'd say transfer to a base school if an east coast 4-year college is the intention. (Which it might not be, don't want to assume.) Base schools have advanced classes and why there is still a lot of pressure, it's not quite as bad as TJ. You might also want to check in on how your child is doing socially--that can have a big impact on academic performance.

A few. Def not a lot…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please stop with the Math 4 email from almost 3 years ago that was primarily addressed to kids in this year’s graduating class admitted under the old system. They were getting back to school from covid and were not at there best. Also, the TJ math department never looks inward when students do poorly. It’s ALWAYS the kids fault. They have been pushing this crap long before admissions change.

That was primarily the freshman class under the new system, the class of 2025.
If you took geometry in 8th grade, you take math 3 in the fall and math 4 in the spring.
https://tjhsst.fcps.edu/node/3332
You're either lying or stupid.

This is not correct. If you took geometry in 8th grade, you take RS1 in fall and Math 3 in spring.

This is true but wouldn't Math 4 in the Spring be mostly Freshmen that took Algebra 2 in 8th grade?
So wouldn't this email be addressed mostly to members of the class of 2025?

[Anonymous]

Some of those advanced freshmen who took algebra 2 would be in there. And sophomores who can in with only algebra and did freshman year remote would be in there too. But definitely not addressed to the majority of the freshman class. And certainly not the freshman that people on here complain about re the new admissions. Freshmen who came in with algebra 1 or geometry would not be the group who received that email.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of those advanced freshmen who took algebra 2 would be in there. And sophomores who can in with only algebra and did freshman year remote would be in there too. But definitely not addressed to the majority of the freshman class. And certainly not the freshman that people on here complain about re the new admissions. Freshmen who came in with algebra 1 or geometry would not be the group who received that email.

Some of the algebra 2 freshmen would be in there?
Wouldn't almost all the algebra 2 freshmen be in there?
In fact wouldn't it overwhelmingly be algebra 2 freshmen?
Honestly, what percentage of the spring math 4 students do you think are sophomores?

That email reflect a drop in quality among the class of 2025 freshmen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of those advanced freshmen who took algebra 2 would be in there. And sophomores who can in with only algebra and did freshman year remote would be in there too. But definitely not addressed to the majority of the freshman class. And certainly not the freshman that people on here complain about re the new admissions. Freshmen who came in with algebra 1 or geometry would not be the group who received that email.

Some of the algebra 2 freshmen would be in there?
Wouldn't almost all the algebra 2 freshmen be in there?
In fact wouldn't it overwhelmingly be algebra 2 freshmen?
Honestly, what percentage of the spring math 4 students do you think are sophomores?

That email reflect a drop in quality among the class of 2025 freshmen.

The email is not what reflects the drop in quality; it is the new admissions standards. TJ parents are very resistant to admit this but I don't understand how they can be. Standards changed away from merit to make it more about equity. Everyone knows that meant the overall quality of students would decrease. This email is confirmation of that...but it is only confirming what was already known. FWIW, this is one reason I did not have my bright kid apply to TJ after the standards changed. Of course, I don't know if my kid would have been admitted, but I believe there was a very good chance. It is also the reason a family on our street turned TJ down for the local HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And a transfer now will be seen as a step back in rigor, so higher grades onward would also be tinged.

Not true. If you do well in base schools you have a good shot at good schools. Getting into top college from TJ is not easy. Many get to Ivies easily from base schools but not from TJ

OP's kid is not getting into a top school with these grades--doesn't matter if they transfer or not. Unless they are an athlete plus another hook.

This. You all are in denial. He could get all As from now on but unless it’s Emory and he is in very hard classes, he won’t be in the top anywhere. Do you all really believe the base school kids are drooling in a corner?

why emory?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of those advanced freshmen who took algebra 2 would be in there. And sophomores who can in with only algebra and did freshman year remote would be in there too. But definitely not addressed to the majority of the freshman class. And certainly not the freshman that people on here complain about re the new admissions. Freshmen who came in with algebra 1 or geometry would not be the group who received that email.

Some of the algebra 2 freshmen would be in there?
Wouldn't almost all the algebra 2 freshmen be in there?
In fact wouldn't it overwhelmingly be algebra 2 freshmen?
Honestly, what percentage of the spring math 4 students do you think are sophomores?

That email reflect a drop in quality among the class of 2025 freshmen.

The email is not what reflects the drop in quality; it is the new admissions standards. TJ parents are very resistant to admit this but I don't understand how they can be. Standards changed away from merit to make it more about equity. Everyone knows that meant the overall quality of students would decrease. This email is confirmation of that...but it is only confirming what was already known. FWIW, this is one reason I did not have my bright kid apply to TJ after the standards changed. Of course, I don't know if my kid would have been admitted, but I believe there was a very good chance. It is also the reason a family on our street turned TJ down for the local HS.

Everybody knows but the equity crowd cannot allow it to be said unchallenged.
The white people wracked by white guilt have been convinced this is thought crime.

There are differences in cognitive ability and those differences run along economic and cultural lines.
Wealth makes it easier to develop cognitive potential into cognitive ability.
It doesn't have to be extreme wealth but you need disposable income.
Culture makes it more likely that you will make the investments and sacrifices necessary to develop actual cognitive ability instead of letting the cognitive potential rot on the vine.
So on average" even a relatively poor child from an environment that values education will get that cognitive development while a somewhat wealthier child in an environment that doesn't value education quite as much will get less cognitive development.
By the time you get to 8th grade, the game is over for all but maybe the top 0.1%.