Why are there so many graded assignments in MCPS HS?

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Anonymous wrote:Every teacher seems to have several dozen each quarter whereas our DC in private might have 10 total. A lot of it is busy work but it's difficult for teachers to grade and impossible for kids to keep track of. The Canvas system is so stupid that when the assignments are created it's unclear whether they are PP or AT until they show up as grades in the grades section which creates confusion for kids.

Are teachers incentivized to give more useless assignments?

I'm a high school AP teacher and there is no way that one graded assignment per week (basically what you are suggesting) is enough to keep kids practicing skills or memorizing content. My assignments aren't "useless." They are meant to make sure that kids read, write the content that they need to memorize (because this is what forms memories) and then synthesize/use the ideas and content in a new way. That takes a lot of practice.

Seriously. One assignment per week for a college-prep level course is absurd.

OP, go back to private. I have lots of criticism for MCPS but this isn’t one of them. If anything, MCPS high school rigor is insufficient to prepare most kids for college level assignments.

One assignment per week is normal for college.

You can't compare a college-level assignment to a HS assignment - even if it's an AP course! (I taught AP, btw. So I'm speaking from experience.) AP courses are also modified to help students reach that level of rigor through multiple steps. That's no longer the case (or it shouldn't be) in college.

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Anonymous wrote:Every teacher seems to have several dozen each quarter whereas our DC in private might have 10 total. A lot of it is busy work but it's difficult for teachers to grade and impossible for kids to keep track of. The Canvas system is so stupid that when the assignments are created it's unclear whether they are PP or AT until they show up as grades in the grades section which creates confusion for kids.

Are teachers incentivized to give more useless assignments?

No it’s called learning and given public’s teach better than privates in HS what the hell are you talking about?

No your private isn’t superior. And no you aren’t either because you spend money on private sup par education

College admissions I rest my case

LOL, MCPS sucks at preparing kids for college. With the exception of a percentage of kids at W schools and a very very small percentage at others, by and large, kids are in for a shock when they go to college. Case in point, my friend's daughter enrolled in Towson. She was a A/B student at her MCPS HS and struggled in her first year because she didn't know how to study for cumulative exams. MCPS hasn't given a final in years. Private schools have mid term and final exams for the most part. I don't know about OP's school, but most privates in the DMV are college prep level schools and do much better at preparing students for college. For one thing, they don't have the level of grade inflation that MCPS has and college admissions officers know this. That's why a larger percentage of students of the strong private schools get into top 20 colleges. At my daughter's private, 25% were admitted to top 20 schools. At the best W schools, it was only 5%.

Students at W schools and others are having no problem being admitted to schools which they apply. I don’t know why folks are suddenly committing to the narrative that MCPS students can’t get admitted to good schools but it’s not true. If anything the only thing working against them is the number of students in their school and the district applying to the same school. Students are applying to schools that fit them and that they can afford.

We did not say MCPS kids can’t get admitted. We said that once they do get admitted, many MCPS kids struggle in college because of grade inflation and inadequate rigor that fails to prepare them to keep up with college level work.

You're full of $hit. Your so-called friend's daughter experience is not a fact.
And grade inflation is 3 times higher in private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Every teacher seems to have several dozen each quarter whereas our DC in private might have 10 total. A lot of it is busy work but it's difficult for teachers to grade and impossible for kids to keep track of. The Canvas system is so stupid that when the assignments are created it's unclear whether they are PP or AT until they show up as grades in the grades section which creates confusion for kids.

Are teachers incentivized to give more useless assignments?

No it’s called learning and given public’s teach better than privates in HS what the hell are you talking about?

No your private isn’t superior. And no you aren’t either because you spend money on private sup par education

College admissions I rest my case

LOL, MCPS sucks at preparing kids for college. With the exception of a percentage of kids at W schools and a very very small percentage at others, by and large, kids are in for a shock when they go to college. Case in point, my friend's daughter enrolled in Towson. She was a A/B student at her MCPS HS and struggled in her first year because she didn't know how to study for cumulative exams. MCPS hasn't given a final in years. Private schools have mid term and final exams for the most part. I don't know about OP's school, but most privates in the DMV are college prep level schools and do much better at preparing students for college. For one thing, they don't have the level of grade inflation that MCPS has and college admissions officers know this. That's why a larger percentage of students of the strong private schools get into top 20 colleges. At my daughter's private, 25% were admitted to top 20 schools. At the best W schools, it was only 5%.

Students at W schools and others are having no problem being admitted to schools which they apply. I don’t know why folks are suddenly committing to the narrative that MCPS students can’t get admitted to good schools but it’s not true. If anything the only thing working against them is the number of students in their school and the district applying to the same school. Students are applying to schools that fit them and that they can afford.

We did not say MCPS kids can’t get admitted. We said that once they do get admitted, many MCPS kids struggle in college because of grade inflation and inadequate rigor that fails to prepare them to keep up with college level work.

You're full of $hit. Your so-called friend's daughter experience is not a fact.
And grade inflation is 3 times higher in private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Every teacher seems to have several dozen each quarter whereas our DC in private might have 10 total. A lot of it is busy work but it's difficult for teachers to grade and impossible for kids to keep track of. The Canvas system is so stupid that when the assignments are created it's unclear whether they are PP or AT until they show up as grades in the grades section which creates confusion for kids.

Are teachers incentivized to give more useless assignments?

No it’s called learning and given public’s teach better than privates in HS what the hell are you talking about?

No your private isn’t superior. And no you aren’t either because you spend money on private sup par education

College admissions I rest my case

LOL, MCPS sucks at preparing kids for college. With the exception of a percentage of kids at W schools and a very very small percentage at others, by and large, kids are in for a shock when they go to college. Case in point, my friend's daughter enrolled in Towson. She was a A/B student at her MCPS HS and struggled in her first year because she didn't know how to study for cumulative exams. MCPS hasn't given a final in years. Private schools have mid term and final exams for the most part. I don't know about OP's school, but most privates in the DMV are college prep level schools and do much better at preparing students for college. For one thing, they don't have the level of grade inflation that MCPS has and college admissions officers know this. That's why a larger percentage of students of the strong private schools get into top 20 colleges. At my daughter's private, 25% were admitted to top 20 schools. At the best W schools, it was only 5%.

Students at W schools and others are having no problem being admitted to schools which they apply. I don’t know why folks are suddenly committing to the narrative that MCPS students can’t get admitted to good schools but it’s not true. If anything the only thing working against them is the number of students in their school and the district applying to the same school. Students are applying to schools that fit them and that they can afford.

We did not say MCPS kids can’t get admitted. We said that once they do get admitted, many MCPS kids struggle in college because of grade inflation and inadequate rigor that fails to prepare them to keep up with college level work.

You're full of $hit. Your so-called friend's daughter experience is not a fact.
And grade inflation is 3 times higher in private schools.

Sorry to bust your bubble. I know the truth hurts

Actually, they said, the upward creep is most pronounced in schools with large numbers of white, wealthy students. And its especially noticeable in private schools, where the rate of inflation was about three times higher than in public schools.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/17/easy-a-nearly-half-hs-seniors-graduate-average/485787001/

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Anonymous wrote:Every teacher seems to have several dozen each quarter whereas our DC in private might have 10 total. A lot of it is busy work but it's difficult for teachers to grade and impossible for kids to keep track of. The Canvas system is so stupid that when the assignments are created it's unclear whether they are PP or AT until they show up as grades in the grades section which creates confusion for kids.

Are teachers incentivized to give more useless assignments?

No it’s called learning and given public’s teach better than privates in HS what the hell are you talking about?

No your private isn’t superior. And no you aren’t either because you spend money on private sup par education

College admissions I rest my case

LOL, MCPS sucks at preparing kids for college. With the exception of a percentage of kids at W schools and a very very small percentage at others, by and large, kids are in for a shock when they go to college. Case in point, my friend's daughter enrolled in Towson. She was a A/B student at her MCPS HS and struggled in her first year because she didn't know how to study for cumulative exams. MCPS hasn't given a final in years. Private schools have mid term and final exams for the most part. I don't know about OP's school, but most privates in the DMV are college prep level schools and do much better at preparing students for college. For one thing, they don't have the level of grade inflation that MCPS has and college admissions officers know this. That's why a larger percentage of students of the strong private schools get into top 20 colleges. At my daughter's private, 25% were admitted to top 20 schools. At the best W schools, it was only 5%.

Students at W schools and others are having no problem being admitted to schools which they apply. I don’t know why folks are suddenly committing to the narrative that MCPS students can’t get admitted to good schools but it’s not true. If anything the only thing working against them is the number of students in their school and the district applying to the same school. Students are applying to schools that fit them and that they can afford.

We did not say MCPS kids can’t get admitted. We said that once they do get admitted, many MCPS kids struggle in college because of grade inflation and inadequate rigor that fails to prepare them to keep up with college level work.

You're full of $hit. Your so-called friend's daughter experience is not a fact.
And grade inflation is 3 times higher in private schools.

Sorry to bust your bubble. I know the truth hurts

Actually, they said, the upward creep is most pronounced in schools with large numbers of white, wealthy students. And its especially noticeable in private schools, where the rate of inflation was about three times higher than in public schools.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/17/easy-a-nearly-half-hs-seniors-graduate-average/485787001/

And you are not exactly a logical giant if you don't understand that 1) there are a wide array of private schools (the kind admitting to top schools don't do grade inflation); AND 2) 2017 was awhile ago...

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Anonymous wrote:Every teacher seems to have several dozen each quarter whereas our DC in private might have 10 total. A lot of it is busy work but it's difficult for teachers to grade and impossible for kids to keep track of. The Canvas system is so stupid that when the assignments are created it's unclear whether they are PP or AT until they show up as grades in the grades section which creates confusion for kids.

Are teachers incentivized to give more useless assignments?

No it’s called learning and given public’s teach better than privates in HS what the hell are you talking about?

No your private isn’t superior. And no you aren’t either because you spend money on private sup par education

College admissions I rest my case

LOL, MCPS sucks at preparing kids for college. With the exception of a percentage of kids at W schools and a very very small percentage at others, by and large, kids are in for a shock when they go to college. Case in point, my friend's daughter enrolled in Towson. She was a A/B student at her MCPS HS and struggled in her first year because she didn't know how to study for cumulative exams. MCPS hasn't given a final in years. Private schools have mid term and final exams for the most part. I don't know about OP's school, but most privates in the DMV are college prep level schools and do much better at preparing students for college. For one thing, they don't have the level of grade inflation that MCPS has and college admissions officers know this. That's why a larger percentage of students of the strong private schools get into top 20 colleges. At my daughter's private, 25% were admitted to top 20 schools. At the best W schools, it was only 5%.

Students at W schools and others are having no problem being admitted to schools which they apply. I don’t know why folks are suddenly committing to the narrative that MCPS students can’t get admitted to good schools but it’s not true. If anything the only thing working against them is the number of students in their school and the district applying to the same school. Students are applying to schools that fit them and that they can afford.

We did not say MCPS kids can’t get admitted. We said that once they do get admitted, many MCPS kids struggle in college because of grade inflation and inadequate rigor that fails to prepare them to keep up with college level work.

You're full of $hit. Your so-called friend's daughter experience is not a fact.
And grade inflation is 3 times higher in private schools.

Sorry to bust your bubble. I know the truth hurts

Actually, they said, the upward creep is most pronounced in schools with large numbers of white, wealthy students. And its especially noticeable in private schools, where the rate of inflation was about three times higher than in public schools.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/17/easy-a-nearly-half-hs-seniors-graduate-average/485787001/

And you are not exactly a logical giant if you don't understand that 1) there are a wide array of private schools (the kind admitting to top schools don't do grade inflation); AND 2) 2017 was awhile ago...

You're saying what again? Keep burying your head in the sand. The truth hurts, doesn't it?

Elite Prep Schools in L.A. and Across the U.S. Are Brazenly Inflating Grades

https://lamag.com/news/prep-schools-grades

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All of these links are meaningless because they don't show correlation between grades and other metrics like SAT/ACT/MAP.

Private schools are selective and less geographic. Public schools are open access and more geographic.

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Anonymous wrote:Every teacher seems to have several dozen each quarter whereas our DC in private might have 10 total. A lot of it is busy work but it's difficult for teachers to grade and impossible for kids to keep track of. The Canvas system is so stupid that when the assignments are created it's unclear whether they are PP or AT until they show up as grades in the grades section which creates confusion for kids.

Are teachers incentivized to give more useless assignments?

Another parent asked why there weren't more. It goes to show you can't please everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every teacher seems to have several dozen each quarter whereas our DC in private might have 10 total. A lot of it is busy work but it's difficult for teachers to grade and impossible for kids to keep track of. The Canvas system is so stupid that when the assignments are created it's unclear whether they are PP or AT until they show up as grades in the grades section which creates confusion for kids.

Are teachers incentivized to give more useless assignments?

Another parent asked why there weren't more. It goes to show you can't please everyone.

As a parent, too few assignments and too few points in the All Tasks category bothers me when it results in there not being a chance to recover from one bad quiz. In a world where the whole quarter is 100 points, it can be a big problem to get 1 or 2 points off.

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Anonymous wrote:Every teacher seems to have several dozen each quarter whereas our DC in private might have 10 total. A lot of it is busy work but it's difficult for teachers to grade and impossible for kids to keep track of. The Canvas system is so stupid that when the assignments are created it's unclear whether they are PP or AT until they show up as grades in the grades section which creates confusion for kids.

Are teachers incentivized to give more useless assignments?

No it’s called learning and given public’s teach better than privates in HS what the hell are you talking about?

No your private isn’t superior. And no you aren’t either because you spend money on private sup par education

College admissions I rest my case

LOL, MCPS sucks at preparing kids for college. With the exception of a percentage of kids at W schools and a very very small percentage at others, by and large, kids are in for a shock when they go to college. Case in point, my friend's daughter enrolled in Towson. She was a A/B student at her MCPS HS and struggled in her first year because she didn't know how to study for cumulative exams. MCPS hasn't given a final in years. Private schools have mid term and final exams for the most part. I don't know about OP's school, but most privates in the DMV are college prep level schools and do much better at preparing students for college. For one thing, they don't have the level of grade inflation that MCPS has and college admissions officers know this. That's why a larger percentage of students of the strong private schools get into top 20 colleges. At my daughter's private, 25% were admitted to top 20 schools. At the best W schools, it was only 5%.

Students at W schools and others are having no problem being admitted to schools which they apply. I don’t know why folks are suddenly committing to the narrative that MCPS students can’t get admitted to good schools but it’s not true. If anything the only thing working against them is the number of students in their school and the district applying to the same school. Students are applying to schools that fit them and that they can afford.

We did not say MCPS kids can’t get admitted. We said that once they do get admitted, many MCPS kids struggle in college because of grade inflation and inadequate rigor that fails to prepare them to keep up with college level work.

You're full of $hit. Your so-called friend's daughter experience is not a fact.
And grade inflation is 3 times higher in private schools.

My kid's MCPS education at Blair prepared them well for MIT. They've just completed their 2nd year and are thriving.

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Anonymous wrote:Every teacher seems to have several dozen each quarter whereas our DC in private might have 10 total. A lot of it is busy work but it's difficult for teachers to grade and impossible for kids to keep track of. The Canvas system is so stupid that when the assignments are created it's unclear whether they are PP or AT until they show up as grades in the grades section which creates confusion for kids.

Are teachers incentivized to give more useless assignments?

No it’s called learning and given public’s teach better than privates in HS what the hell are you talking about?

No your private isn’t superior. And no you aren’t either because you spend money on private sup par education

College admissions I rest my case

LOL, MCPS sucks at preparing kids for college. With the exception of a percentage of kids at W schools and a very very small percentage at others, by and large, kids are in for a shock when they go to college. Case in point, my friend's daughter enrolled in Towson. She was a A/B student at her MCPS HS and struggled in her first year because she didn't know how to study for cumulative exams. MCPS hasn't given a final in years. Private schools have mid term and final exams for the most part. I don't know about OP's school, but most privates in the DMV are college prep level schools and do much better at preparing students for college. For one thing, they don't have the level of grade inflation that MCPS has and college admissions officers know this. That's why a larger percentage of students of the strong private schools get into top 20 colleges. At my daughter's private, 25% were admitted to top 20 schools. At the best W schools, it was only 5%.

Students at W schools and others are having no problem being admitted to schools which they apply. I don’t know why folks are suddenly committing to the narrative that MCPS students can’t get admitted to good schools but it’s not true. If anything the only thing working against them is the number of students in their school and the district applying to the same school. Students are applying to schools that fit them and that they can afford.

We did not say MCPS kids can’t get admitted. We said that once they do get admitted, many MCPS kids struggle in college because of grade inflation and inadequate rigor that fails to prepare them to keep up with college level work.

You're full of $hit. Your so-called friend's daughter experience is not a fact.
And grade inflation is 3 times higher in private schools.

My kid's MCPS education at Blair prepared them well for MIT. They've just completed their 2nd year and are thriving.

+1

My MCPS kid is doing finew at UPenn. Stop slamming MCPS. Many kids struggle in college but it is not exclusive to MCPS students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every teacher seems to have several dozen each quarter whereas our DC in private might have 10 total. A lot of it is busy work but it's difficult for teachers to grade and impossible for kids to keep track of. The Canvas system is so stupid that when the assignments are created it's unclear whether they are PP or AT until they show up as grades in the grades section which creates confusion for kids.

Are teachers incentivized to give more useless assignments?

Another parent asked why there weren't more. It goes to show you can't please everyone.

As a parent, too few assignments and too few points in the All Tasks category bothers me when it results in there not being a chance to recover from one bad quiz. In a world where the whole quarter is 100 points, it can be a big problem to get 1 or 2 points off.

Particularly when some teachers give quizzes that are essentially pass/fail. If that’s how the quizzes are going to be then the final grade should be the same way.

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Anonymous wrote:Every teacher seems to have several dozen each quarter whereas our DC in private might have 10 total. A lot of it is busy work but it's difficult for teachers to grade and impossible for kids to keep track of. The Canvas system is so stupid that when the assignments are created it's unclear whether they are PP or AT until they show up as grades in the grades section which creates confusion for kids.

Are teachers incentivized to give more useless assignments?

No it’s called learning and given public’s teach better than privates in HS what the hell are you talking about?

No your private isn’t superior. And no you aren’t either because you spend money on private sup par education

College admissions I rest my case

With some people, you don't have to satirize them, you just quote :em.

Yup

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Anonymous wrote:Every teacher seems to have several dozen each quarter whereas our DC in private might have 10 total. A lot of it is busy work but it's difficult for teachers to grade and impossible for kids to keep track of. The Canvas system is so stupid that when the assignments are created it's unclear whether they are PP or AT until they show up as grades in the grades section which creates confusion for kids.

Are teachers incentivized to give more useless assignments?

Another parent asked why there weren't more. It goes to show you can't please everyone.

I believe I’m the parent you’re referring to, but I wasn’t suggesting that there should be more assignments, much less more useless assignments. I was suggesting that whatever (hopefully useful) assignments are given should be graded rather than just checked for having been done, with no determination made as to whether or not they were done correctly.