How do you deal with a red light camera ticket?

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to really enlighten her, have her demand a hearing and then go and see what a complete crock of nonsense the “process” really is, ostensibly justified by the relatively small amount involved in each machine-driven ticket while ignoring the truckloads of money collected for the camera company and .gov.

Or, you know, just have her pay the ticket since she broke the law.


Or she didn’t, but the robot guilt system that has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with ruthless profiteering has things fixed so that she never gets due process.
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Anonymous wrote:My daughter was driving on the day question, she didn't come to a "Full stop" when she turning right on red... The ticket is $50 and we making pay for it and told her to wait longer when making a right on red turn anything else?



$50 sounds low. Are youin thr Dc area?


The ticket might be $50 but to not have it go on your record you might have to pay $200 for traffic school and court fees. Where can you just pay $50 and be done with it? That's not the case where I live.
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I think you handled it just right. She will
Pay for it and won’t forget it. I’m glad you’re not making excuses for her. We all blow traffic rules and it’s right to take responsibility for them.
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Anonymous wrote:My daughter was driving on the day question, she didn't come to a "Full stop" when she turning right on red... The ticket is $50 and we making pay for it and told her to wait longer when making a right on red turn anything else?



$50 sounds low. Are youin thr Dc area?


The ticket might be $50 but to not have it go on your record you might have to pay $200 for traffic school and court fees. Where can you just pay $50 and be done with it? That's not the case where I live.


I know in MD and DC, they cite the vehicle and not the driver with red light/speeding camera tickets. PG county fines are significantly lower than DC (which are outrageous).
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Anonymous wrote:My kids lose their license for the number of days equal to the cost of the tickets. So here, she’d lose her license 50 days and pay the fine. So far each of my kids have gotten either 1 or no tickets. Seems to work.


This seems overly harsh. After I read your first sentence I was thinking a punishment of 5 days, which I felt was reasonable. 50 days seems over the top.

Less than 2 months punishment for running a red light is too harsh to you? Driving is a privilege, not a right, and breaking the law and earning a ticket absolutely means losing that privilege. 5 days is nothing. Clearly pps kids actually learn from this, unlike the kids/teens that are continually getting tickets/accidents and risking other peoples lives on the road.

Ummm slowly rolling right on a red is not “ running a red light” . Good grief calm down. Running a red light would be blowing thru at a high rate of speed. Hence the word running.


When I was teaching my kids to drive and gave the full 3 second stop at stops signs...I was often honked at!


Yes, but the police don't care. You have to choose who to listen to.


The police? Are pulling someone over and giving them a ticket because they think you didn't stop long enough on a legal right turn on red?

There is a reason it is a red light camera ticket.


If they are there to see you, yes they'll pull you over. Why wouldn't they? It's easy money. You won't win if you try to fight it.


I seriously doubt it. You are now accusing the police of being abusive of power, which 99.9% are not. Sure, if you have CA license plates and you do this driving in TX...I see that kind of nonsense.

Again, you didn't drive through a stop sign or run a red light or speed...or do anything for which a cop will pull you over. On your basis, the cops will just pull you over because they feel like it and will give you tickets.



A rolling stop is not stopping at the light.
It's not an abuse of power to stop someone for that, especially if they are over the cross walk white line. That would be not prioritizing the pedestrian traffic and most police will try to do that.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids lose their license for the number of days equal to the cost of the tickets. So here, she’d lose her license 50 days and pay the fine. So far each of my kids have gotten either 1 or no tickets. Seems to work.


This seems overly harsh. After I read your first sentence I was thinking a punishment of 5 days, which I felt was reasonable. 50 days seems over the top.

Less than 2 months punishment for running a red light is too harsh to you? Driving is a privilege, not a right, and breaking the law and earning a ticket absolutely means losing that privilege. 5 days is nothing. Clearly pps kids actually learn from this, unlike the kids/teens that are continually getting tickets/accidents and risking other peoples lives on the road.

Ummm slowly rolling right on a red is not “ running a red light” . Good grief calm down. Running a red light would be blowing thru at a high rate of speed. Hence the word running.

“I totally paused!”
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Anonymous wrote:My kids lose their license for the number of days equal to the cost of the tickets. So here, she’d lose her license 50 days and pay the fine. So far each of my kids have gotten either 1 or no tickets. Seems to work.


This seems overly harsh. After I read your first sentence I was thinking a punishment of 5 days, which I felt was reasonable. 50 days seems over the top.

Less than 2 months punishment for running a red light is too harsh to you? Driving is a privilege, not a right, and breaking the law and earning a ticket absolutely means losing that privilege. 5 days is nothing. Clearly pps kids actually learn from this, unlike the kids/teens that are continually getting tickets/accidents and risking other peoples lives on the road.

Ummm slowly rolling right on a red is not “ running a red light” . Good grief calm down. Running a red light would be blowing thru at a high rate of speed. Hence the word running.


When I was teaching my kids to drive and gave the full 3 second stop at stops signs...I was often honked at!


Yes, but the police don't care. You have to choose who to listen to.


The police? Are pulling someone over and giving them a ticket because they think you didn't stop long enough on a legal right turn on red?

There is a reason it is a red light camera ticket.


If they are there to see you, yes they'll pull you over. Why wouldn't they? It's easy money. You won't win if you try to fight it.


I seriously doubt it. You are now accusing the police of being abusive of power, which 99.9% are not. Sure, if you have CA license plates and you do this driving in TX...I see that kind of nonsense.

Again, you didn't drive through a stop sign or run a red light or speed...or do anything for which a cop will pull you over. On your basis, the cops will just pull you over because they feel like it and will give you tickets.



A rolling stop is not stopping at the light.
It's not an abuse of power to stop someone for that, especially if they are over the cross walk white line. That would be not prioritizing the pedestrian traffic and most police will try to do that.


Police write tickets to get statistics to keep their boss off their back and their paycheck coming. “Prioritizing the pedestrian traffic.” Are you kidding?

And the thread isn’t about police tickets. It’s about camera tickets.
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Anonymous wrote:My daughter was driving on the day question, she didn't come to a "Full stop" when she turning right on red... The ticket is $50 and we making pay for it and told her to wait longer when making a right on red turn anything else?



$50 sounds low. Are youin thr Dc area?


The ticket might be $50 but to not have it go on your record you might have to pay $200 for traffic school and court fees. Where can you just pay $50 and be done with it? That's not the case where I live.


Camera tickets don’t “go on your record” in any of the local jurisdictions.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids lose their license for the number of days equal to the cost of the tickets. So here, she’d lose her license 50 days and pay the fine. So far each of my kids have gotten either 1 or no tickets. Seems to work.


This seems overly harsh. After I read your first sentence I was thinking a punishment of 5 days, which I felt was reasonable. 50 days seems over the top.

Less than 2 months punishment for running a red light is too harsh to you? Driving is a privilege, not a right, and breaking the law and earning a ticket absolutely means losing that privilege. 5 days is nothing. Clearly pps kids actually learn from this, unlike the kids/teens that are continually getting tickets/accidents and risking other peoples lives on the road.

Ummm slowly rolling right on a red is not “ running a red light” . Good grief calm down. Running a red light would be blowing thru at a high rate of speed. Hence the word running.


When I was teaching my kids to drive and gave the full 3 second stop at stops signs...I was often honked at!


Yes, but the police don't care. You have to choose who to listen to.


The police? Are pulling someone over and giving them a ticket because they think you didn't stop long enough on a legal right turn on red?

There is a reason it is a red light camera ticket.


If they are there to see you, yes they'll pull you over. Why wouldn't they? It's easy money. You won't win if you try to fight it.


I seriously doubt it. You are now accusing the police of being abusive of power, which 99.9% are not. Sure, if you have CA license plates and you do this driving in TX...I see that kind of nonsense.

Again, you didn't drive through a stop sign or run a red light or speed...or do anything for which a cop will pull you over. On your basis, the cops will just pull you over because they feel like it and will give you tickets.



A rolling stop is not stopping at the light.
It's not an abuse of power to stop someone for that, especially if they are over the cross walk white line. That would be not prioritizing the pedestrian traffic and most police will try to do that.


Police write tickets to get statistics to keep their boss off their back and their paycheck coming. “Prioritizing the pedestrian traffic.” Are you kidding?

And the thread isn’t about police tickets. It’s about camera tickets.


Of course it's about camera tickets, but if you do a rolling stop in front of the police as I mentioned previously upthread, they could decide to pull you over. Because a rolling stop is not fully stopping.
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Has anyone mentioned that there is often video evidence that you can look at to determine why the ticket was generated?
Until then, this is all just speculation. She could have sped through, she could have "rolled" through, she could have turned when there was a "no turn on red" sign, she could have not stopped behind the white line, etc. etc.
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Anonymous wrote:Ive never heard of camera tickets for not coming to a complete stop, I’ve only seen them on red lights. Kind of subjective.


I got caught on one for not coming to a complete stop at a right turn on red. They're all over the place in the DC area. You can watch the video when you get the ticket in the mail.
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