Middle school dilemma: Eliot-Hine/Stuart Hobson/Jefferson

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Anonymous wrote:We are in the Cluster and I would choose Stuart Hobson. LT buy-in seems real. I have heard of more Maury parents choosing elsewhere which isn't good for EH. I would also prefer the SH location in terms of safety.

I don’t know anyone at Maury who lotteried for the Latins or BASIS, matched, and is choosing EH.

Right, I assume if you lottery for a school and match, you would go bc you lotteried there. Our family didn't lottery, and others we know didn't lottery so we ended up at our feeder DCPS middle school. And I am not naive and know that some of the other families at their IB MS did try lottery but didn't get in, but I always assumed if somebody tried lottery and matched, the odds are they'd go wherever they felt was the right fit that they tried lotterying for.

I know families at Maury that tried out the lottery, matched at Basis or Latin, and are undecided. I also know families that did not lottery because they are planning to go to E-H. I think test scores are of limited value because the school is changing and even two year old results may be outdated. More relevant to many, I think, is admission to selective HSs. The last year that is posted doesn't show much for E-H in that regard. But, I hear this has been a solid year for admissions.

Aren't you precious. You must be new to DC and the MS lottery. This is a common refrain post-lottery, pre-enrollment deadline. The "I'm so torn dance" is what you do not to offend your fellow ES families. Unless people have money to pay for private HS, no one can afford to make that decision. Plus, the lottery options are better schools than EH.

[Anonymous]

Strange response. Asians matter in DC. There are sizeable cohorts at the Latins, BASIS and DCI. There are Asian families in public schools in Ward 6--there were two dozen at our DCPS ES on the Hill--they just aren't attracted to iffy DCPS middle schools, even if they're rising schools like SH.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are in the Cluster and I would choose Stuart Hobson. LT buy-in seems real. I have heard of more Maury parents choosing elsewhere which isn't good for EH. I would also prefer the SH location in terms of safety.

I don’t know anyone at Maury who lotteried for the Latins or BASIS, matched, and is choosing EH.

Right, I assume if you lottery for a school and match, you would go bc you lotteried there. Our family didn't lottery, and others we know didn't lottery so we ended up at our feeder DCPS middle school. And I am not naive and know that some of the other families at their IB MS did try lottery but didn't get in, but I always assumed if somebody tried lottery and matched, the odds are they'd go wherever they felt was the right fit that they tried lotterying for.

I know families at Maury that tried out the lottery, matched at Basis or Latin, and are undecided. I also know families that did not lottery because they are planning to go to E-H. I think test scores are of limited value because the school is changing and even two year old results may be outdated. More relevant to many, I think, is admission to selective HSs. The last year that is posted doesn't show much for E-H in that regard. But, I hear this has been a solid year for admissions.

Aren't you precious. You must be new to DC and the MS lottery. This is a common refrain post-lottery, pre-enrollment deadline. The "I'm so torn dance" is what you do not to offend your fellow ES families. Unless people have money to pay for private HS, no one can afford to make that decision. Plus, the lottery options are better schools than EH.

I don’t understand why you’re so nasty but glad you didn’t enroll at EH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Strange response. Asians matter in DC. There are sizeable cohorts at the Latins, BASIS and DCI. There are Asian families in public schools in Ward 6--there were two dozen at our DCPS ES on the Hill--they just aren't attracted to iffy DCPS middle schools, even if they're rising schools like SH.

Title of thread is: "Middle school dilemma: Eliot-Hine/Stuart Hobson/Jefferson" OP asked about choosing between those three schools. You have oddly and unhelpfully suggested other schools that OP didn't ask about and can't attend (absent lottery or moving). My response indicated annoyance, cause, READING COMPREHENSION.

[Anonymous]

It never ceases to amaze me how nasty and bitter people are on this subject. There are, in fact, good kids of all types at all three of those schools, happy kids, caring teachers, good facilities, fun after school program. NOBODY CARES if you send your kid to Latin or Basis. But it’s a real pathology to come on here bashing schools your neighbors’ kids attend. If you have a concrete complaint or question bring it on. But the attacks are just absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Strange response. Asians matter in DC. There are sizeable cohorts at the Latins, BASIS and DCI. There are Asian families in public schools in Ward 6--there were two dozen at our DCPS ES on the Hill--they just aren't attracted to iffy DCPS middle schools, even if they're rising schools like SH.

Hop off the cross my sister. No one suggested otherwise. You are imagining persecution where it doesn't exist.

[Anonymous]

NP who disagrees. In the big picture, Eliot-Hine, Jefferson and Stuart Hobson aren't attracting Asians, this white lady is wary for my own children. The inconvenient truth is that local Asian buy-in is the acid test of quality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP who disagrees. In the big picture, Eliot-Hine, Jefferson and Stuart Hobson aren't attracting Asians, this white lady is wary for my own children. The inconvenient truth is that local Asian buy-in is the acid test of quality.

omfg. will you just STOP. If you actually live in W6/W7 with this attitude why did you move here, because the Asian population is tiny! There are suburbs with big Asian populations. be as “wary for your own children” as you like out there. EH and SH are public middle schools in high-poverty, black areas. If you believe that is inherently bad, fine, but stop showboating here. I fine it hard to believe you are even at a Hill ES with your weird comments on “Asian buy-in.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It never ceases to amaze me how nasty and bitter people are on this subject. There are, in fact, good kids of all types at all three of those schools, happy kids, caring teachers, good facilities, fun after school program. NOBODY CARES if you send your kid to Latin or Basis. But it’s a real pathology to come on here bashing schools your neighbors’ kids attend. If you have a concrete complaint or question bring it on. But the attacks are just absurd.

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I have spent more time than I probably should have trying to understand the motivation behind spending time on these threads spreading snark and negativity. And yes, maybe it is petty of me, but I find myself somewhat relieved that people who spend their free time cutting other people down are not part of the school communities I am in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It never ceases to amaze me how nasty and bitter people are on this subject. There are, in fact, good kids of all types at all three of those schools, happy kids, caring teachers, good facilities, fun after school program. NOBODY CARES if you send your kid to Latin or Basis. But it’s a real pathology to come on here bashing schools your neighbors’ kids attend. If you have a concrete complaint or question bring it on. But the attacks are just absurd.

Read your own post. You are resorting to name calling and mischaracterizing people’s fact-based responses as “nasty” because you don’t want to face the truth about Elliot-Hine, which is that the vast majority of kids are below grade level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It never ceases to amaze me how nasty and bitter people are on this subject. There are, in fact, good kids of all types at all three of those schools, happy kids, caring teachers, good facilities, fun after school program. NOBODY CARES if you send your kid to Latin or Basis. But it’s a real pathology to come on here bashing schools your neighbors’ kids attend. If you have a concrete complaint or question bring it on. But the attacks are just absurd.

Read your own post. You are resorting to name calling and mischaracterizing people’s fact-based responses as “nasty” because you don’t want to face the truth about Elliot-Hine, which is that the vast majority of kids are below grade level.

SH and EH have almost identical test scores btw.

And of course it’s all the racialized commentary and calling the school “terrible” that is nasty. We all know what the test scores are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It never ceases to amaze me how nasty and bitter people are on this subject. There are, in fact, good kids of all types at all three of those schools, happy kids, caring teachers, good facilities, fun after school program. NOBODY CARES if you send your kid to Latin or Basis. But it’s a real pathology to come on here bashing schools your neighbors’ kids attend. If you have a concrete complaint or question bring it on. But the attacks are just absurd.

Read your own post. You are resorting to name calling and mischaracterizing people’s fact-based responses as “nasty” because you don’t want to face the truth about Elliot-Hine, which is that the vast majority of kids are below grade level.

SH and EH have almost identical test scores btw.

And of course it’s all the racialized commentary and calling the school “terrible” that is nasty. We all know what the test scores are.

EH's 8th grade scores in both ELA and Math are significantly worse. Could read that in a number of ways. Future PARCC scores might help clarify what's going on there. But that doesn't help OP, who needs to make a choice now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It never ceases to amaze me how nasty and bitter people are on this subject. There are, in fact, good kids of all types at all three of those schools, happy kids, caring teachers, good facilities, fun after school program. NOBODY CARES if you send your kid to Latin or Basis. But it’s a real pathology to come on here bashing schools your neighbors’ kids attend. If you have a concrete complaint or question bring it on. But the attacks are just absurd.

Read your own post. You are resorting to name calling and mischaracterizing people’s fact-based responses as “nasty” because you don’t want to face the truth about Elliot-Hine, which is that the vast majority of kids are below grade level.

SH and EH have almost identical test scores btw.

And of course it’s all the racialized commentary and calling the school “terrible” that is nasty. We all know what the test scores are.

EH's 8th grade scores in both ELA and Math are significantly worse. Could read that in a number of ways. Future PARCC scores might help clarify what's going on there. But that doesn't help OP, who needs to make a choice now.

Don't you just love DCUM gaslighting? Scores are published but that doesn't stop people from just making things up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP who disagrees. In the big picture, Eliot-Hine, Jefferson and Stuart Hobson aren't attracting Asians, this white lady is wary for my own children. The inconvenient truth is that local Asian buy-in is the acid test of quality.

omfg. will you just STOP. If you actually live in W6/W7 with this attitude why did you move here, because the Asian population is tiny! There are suburbs with big Asian populations. be as “wary for your own children” as you like out there. EH and SH are public middle schools in high-poverty, black areas. If you believe that is inherently bad, fine, but stop showboating here. I fine it hard to believe you are even at a Hill ES with your weird comments on “Asian buy-in.”

south Asian person here. It's true that Asian people are extremely picky about schools (especially middle and high school), and most of us second generation kids were raised by parents who found the best possible school district closest to work. That's the immigrant way. It's also true there only a small proportion of people in DC are Asian. And it's also true that Basis had surprising number of Asian and South Asian students, for DC, and it made me more curious about the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It never ceases to amaze me how nasty and bitter people are on this subject. There are, in fact, good kids of all types at all three of those schools, happy kids, caring teachers, good facilities, fun after school program. NOBODY CARES if you send your kid to Latin or Basis. But it’s a real pathology to come on here bashing schools your neighbors’ kids attend. If you have a concrete complaint or question bring it on. But the attacks are just absurd.

Read your own post. You are resorting to name calling and mischaracterizing people’s fact-based responses as “nasty” because you don’t want to face the truth about Elliot-Hine, which is that the vast majority of kids are below grade level.

SH and EH have almost identical test scores btw.

And of course it’s all the racialized commentary and calling the school “terrible” that is nasty. We all know what the test scores are.

EH's 8th grade scores in both ELA and Math are significantly worse. Could read that in a number of ways. Future PARCC scores might help clarify what's going on there. But that doesn't help OP, who needs to make a choice now.

Don't you just love DCUM gaslighting? Scores are published but that doesn't stop people from just making things up.

Who is gaslighting whom? EH had 33% meeting/exceeding in math last year to SH's 30%. For ELA it was 52.5% for EH vs 66% for SH.