I-Ready grade level estimates

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Anonymous wrote:The grade level estimates are tied to common core standards - which are generally lower grade levels than in Virginia (but not for all topics). You want to see the full report for your student aligned to Virginia standards. The teacher can print that out for you. You won’t see the text of the question but you can see which standards were answered incorrectly.

Thank you! So the print out will show it aligned to Virginia standards?

Even so, it still surprises me, but this is helpful to know, thanks.

How can it be that a child can score 99th percentile but be completely average (at grade level, give or take) by common core standards?

The “for families” report that others have referenced is fine info. But to see exactly what standards your child got wrong ask for the Virginia standards report covering K through the grade above your child’s grade.

The 99th percentile would mean that your child scored better than 99 percent of students at DCs grade level nationally. So, probably not many gaps.

I don’t look at the percentiles but I do look at the standards report. Unless a kiddo had an off day, it seems to track pretty well with what I see in class. And it helps me to fill in gaps that aren’t part of the current grade level standards. Or fill gaps before we arrive at a corresponding unit.

Sorry for the blank post above. The teacher said that there isn't a way to get the I-Ready report aligned to Virginia standards and also did not send the Lexia report with Virginia standards. Is there some additional guidance I could provide the teacher with?

OP here. Got the reports with Virginia standards. These are very informative and a good complement to the usual report that is given--thanks to posters who suggested we ask for this. Also really interesting to have more detailed Lexia reports. I was surprised to see the specific standards that DC seemed to struggle with. Possibly was not being careful in selecting responses, given limited experience with such tests and being under the weather. (This was DC's first I-Ready due to starting in FCPS only recently.)

I'm nevertheless still perplexed as to how a child can be 99th percentile (475Q) in math on I-Ready and be indicated as on grade level and not meeting or having incomplete knowledge of several standards.

On grade level/above grade level ranges make very little sense at the lower grades. Iready considers ‘on-grade’ for 2nd grade math up to a 506 score. 506 is so high that it’s also considered ‘on grade level’ for early grade 6, and is 52nd percentile for 7th grade 🤯 and yes, you can compare scores across grade levels for iready diagnostic tests.

https://www.rcboe.org/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=73993&dataid=76158&FileName=iReady%20Growth%20Expectations%202016%202017.pdf

https://www.fldoe.org/core/fileparse.php/7539/urlt/iready-norms-tables-K-8-2020.pdf


The on grade/above grade ranges make much more sense as you get to upper elementary.

Thank you! I really appreciate the perspective you are offering in this post (and presumably the one above as well). This helps me understand better.

So if DC was listed as 3rd grade level and maximum score on some aspects of the reading portion of I-Ready does that mean they need LII even if their overall percentile for that portion was 91?

For math it was 475Q, so it's good to know that even with a grain of salt maybe there'll be more differentiation in DC's future, which they appear to need/want.

Is your kid in 1st or 3rd?

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Anonymous wrote:The grade level estimates are tied to common core standards - which are generally lower grade levels than in Virginia (but not for all topics). You want to see the full report for your student aligned to Virginia standards. The teacher can print that out for you. You won’t see the text of the question but you can see which standards were answered incorrectly.

Thank you! So the print out will show it aligned to Virginia standards?

Even so, it still surprises me, but this is helpful to know, thanks.

How can it be that a child can score 99th percentile but be completely average (at grade level, give or take) by common core standards?

The “for families” report that others have referenced is fine info. But to see exactly what standards your child got wrong ask for the Virginia standards report covering K through the grade above your child’s grade.

The 99th percentile would mean that your child scored better than 99 percent of students at DCs grade level nationally. So, probably not many gaps.

I don’t look at the percentiles but I do look at the standards report. Unless a kiddo had an off day, it seems to track pretty well with what I see in class. And it helps me to fill in gaps that aren’t part of the current grade level standards. Or fill gaps before we arrive at a corresponding unit.

Sorry for the blank post above. The teacher said that there isn't a way to get the I-Ready report aligned to Virginia standards and also did not send the Lexia report with Virginia standards. Is there some additional guidance I could provide the teacher with?

Your teacher is incorrect regarding I-Ready. Perhaps she/he hasn’t used it before. It is under the reports tab at the top, select by student, and there is a Virginia Standards report type. The teacher then selects the grade range. I suggest K through 1 year above your child’s grade. I am unfamiliar with a Lexia report aligned to Virginia. But IReady is available for both math and reading aligned to Virginia. Hope this helps!

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Anonymous wrote:The grade level estimates are tied to common core standards - which are generally lower grade levels than in Virginia (but not for all topics). You want to see the full report for your student aligned to Virginia standards. The teacher can print that out for you. You won’t see the text of the question but you can see which standards were answered incorrectly.

Thank you! So the print out will show it aligned to Virginia standards?

Even so, it still surprises me, but this is helpful to know, thanks.

How can it be that a child can score 99th percentile but be completely average (at grade level, give or take) by common core standards?

The “for families” report that others have referenced is fine info. But to see exactly what standards your child got wrong ask for the Virginia standards report covering K through the grade above your child’s grade.

The 99th percentile would mean that your child scored better than 99 percent of students at DCs grade level nationally. So, probably not many gaps.

I don’t look at the percentiles but I do look at the standards report. Unless a kiddo had an off day, it seems to track pretty well with what I see in class. And it helps me to fill in gaps that aren’t part of the current grade level standards. Or fill gaps before we arrive at a corresponding unit.

Sorry for the blank post above. The teacher said that there isn't a way to get the I-Ready report aligned to Virginia standards and also did not send the Lexia report with Virginia standards. Is there some additional guidance I could provide the teacher with?

OP here. Got the reports with Virginia standards. These are very informative and a good complement to the usual report that is given--thanks to posters who suggested we ask for this. Also really interesting to have more detailed Lexia reports. I was surprised to see the specific standards that DC seemed to struggle with. Possibly was not being careful in selecting responses, given limited experience with such tests and being under the weather. (This was DC's first I-Ready due to starting in FCPS only recently.)

I'm nevertheless still perplexed as to how a child can be 99th percentile (475Q) in math on I-Ready and be indicated as on grade level and not meeting or having incomplete knowledge of several standards.

On grade level/above grade level ranges make very little sense at the lower grades. Iready considers ‘on-grade’ for 2nd grade math up to a 506 score. 506 is so high that it’s also considered ‘on grade level’ for early grade 6, and is 52nd percentile for 7th grade 🤯 and yes, you can compare scores across grade levels for iready diagnostic tests.

https://www.rcboe.org/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=73993&dataid=76158&FileName=iReady%20Growth%20Expectations%202016%202017.pdf

https://www.fldoe.org/core/fileparse.php/7539/urlt/iready-norms-tables-K-8-2020.pdf


The on grade/above grade ranges make much more sense as you get to upper elementary.

Thank you! I really appreciate the perspective you are offering in this post (and presumably the one above as well). This helps me understand better.

So if DC was listed as 3rd grade level and maximum score on some aspects of the reading portion of I-Ready does that mean they need LII even if their overall percentile for that portion was 91?

For math it was 475Q, so it's good to know that even with a grain of salt maybe there'll be more differentiation in DC's future, which they appear to need/want.

Is your kid in 1st or 3rd?

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Anonymous wrote:The grade level estimates are tied to common core standards - which are generally lower grade levels than in Virginia (but not for all topics). You want to see the full report for your student aligned to Virginia standards. The teacher can print that out for you. You won’t see the text of the question but you can see which standards were answered incorrectly.

Thank you! So the print out will show it aligned to Virginia standards?

Even so, it still surprises me, but this is helpful to know, thanks.

How can it be that a child can score 99th percentile but be completely average (at grade level, give or take) by common core standards?

The “for families” report that others have referenced is fine info. But to see exactly what standards your child got wrong ask for the Virginia standards report covering K through the grade above your child’s grade.

The 99th percentile would mean that your child scored better than 99 percent of students at DCs grade level nationally. So, probably not many gaps.

I don’t look at the percentiles but I do look at the standards report. Unless a kiddo had an off day, it seems to track pretty well with what I see in class. And it helps me to fill in gaps that aren’t part of the current grade level standards. Or fill gaps before we arrive at a corresponding unit.

Sorry for the blank post above. The teacher said that there isn't a way to get the I-Ready report aligned to Virginia standards and also did not send the Lexia report with Virginia standards. Is there some additional guidance I could provide the teacher with?

Your teacher is incorrect regarding I-Ready. Perhaps she/he hasn’t used it before. It is under the reports tab at the top, select by student, and there is a Virginia Standards report type. The teacher then selects the grade range. I suggest K through 1 year above your child’s grade. I am unfamiliar with a Lexia report aligned to Virginia. But IReady is available for both math and reading aligned to Virginia. Hope this helps!

Thank you! I mentioned to her that a teacher told me that it could be done and she figured it out but I think only gave for 1st grade. Is there a reason to ask for the range to include one year below and above the child's grade?

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Anonymous wrote:"I'm nevertheless still perplexed as to how a child can be 99th percentile (475Q) in math on I-Ready and be indicated as on grade level and not meeting or having incomplete knowledge of several standards."

The answer is that these are two distinct comparative metrics. The percentile is comparing your child's performance to other children's performances. In this metric literally all of the test takers could fail but your child could fail less badly and therefore be 99th percentile in comparison. The grade level standard is, instead, comparing your child's performance in relation to the grade level goals (broadly defined, as discussed above).

So, the two metrics combined tell you that your child is doing fine in terms of grade level goals, and better than most other test takers, many of whom are not doing fine in relation to grade level goals

Was this winter iready or fall? If winter, did you see growth from fall to winter?

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Anonymous wrote:"I'm nevertheless still perplexed as to how a child can be 99th percentile (475Q) in math on I-Ready and be indicated as on grade level and not meeting or having incomplete knowledge of several standards."

The answer is that these are two distinct comparative metrics. The percentile is comparing your child's performance to other children's performances. In this metric literally all of the test takers could fail but your child could fail less badly and therefore be 99th percentile in comparison. The grade level standard is, instead, comparing your child's performance in relation to the grade level goals (broadly defined, as discussed above).

So, the two metrics combined tell you that your child is doing fine in terms of grade level goals, and better than most other test takers, many of whom are not doing fine in relation to grade level goals

Thanks. I do understand that. I guess my point is more that it's surprising that the standards are out of reach for so many in the nation, even kids at the 99th percentile. And DC is doing work well beyond grade level in math so it's unexpected that DC tested as being on grade level for math and not advanced in any area. The reading results make a bit more sense. Was very advanced in some areas that were expected and not so in others.

Are there data indicating that the I-Ready is accurately capturing how well students are doing relative to Common Core or Virginia Standards? I suspect the testing situation is suboptimal at best. DC said kids were sounding off "alarms" by clicking through to get to the end and that the classroom noise and particular kids make it difficult to concentrate. One disruptive kid doesn't have working headphones so everyone has to listen to his loud audio.

I also think kids could use more coaching on how to approach such tests. DC is used to being able to do things over after making a mistake (in Beast Academy, ST Math, chess, etc), which I think results in a more casual approach that backfires in a real testing situation.

The grade level standards aren't out of reach for 99th percentile kids. What's out of reach are standards for the next grade level up that haven't necessarily been taught. Even a 99th percentile kid isn't going to magically know how to divide fractions or what a box and whisker plot is if they haven't been taught the material. The score means that your kid has full mastery of the grade level material, but they apparently have some gaps in the above grade level material that they haven't formally been taught. Even if your kid is working well beyond grade level in math by using things like Beast Academy, there are some fringe topics included in the common core grade level standards that aren't touched upon in BA.

Sorry, I'm confused. I'm looking at my child's report and they are 99th percentile in math but showing gaps on standards for the grade level. Unless I'm misinterpreting? For example, this standard:

"MG.1.9.a (measurement and geometry): The student will investigate the passage of time and tell time to the hour and half- hour, using analog and digital clocks".

DC got an 'X' here, indicating "The student likely does not have sufficient understanding of the i‐Ready skills aligned to the standard". And for several other first grade standards got a non-filled (rather than green) checkmark indicating "The student only understands some of the i‐Ready skills aligned to the standard, or the aligned i‐Ready skill is only partially related to the standard, so claims can only be made conservatively."

This to me suggests DC has not achieved first grade standards in several areas (yet is scoring at the 99th percentile...). So doesn't this mean that there are likely many kids who are doing exceptionally (top 1%) but are still not meeting their grade-level standards?

Curious to know what fringe topics are in Common Core or Virginia Standards that are not covered in BA.

If you’re looking to fill gaps, only look at the standards with an X. Don’t worry about the non-filled checks. Also, realize that an X doesn’t mean the child failed to learn something - if it’s a grade level standard it may not have even been taught yet this year.

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Anonymous wrote:The grade level estimates are tied to common core standards - which are generally lower grade levels than in Virginia (but not for all topics). You want to see the full report for your student aligned to Virginia standards. The teacher can print that out for you. You won’t see the text of the question but you can see which standards were answered incorrectly.

Thank you! So the print out will show it aligned to Virginia standards?

Even so, it still surprises me, but this is helpful to know, thanks.

How can it be that a child can score 99th percentile but be completely average (at grade level, give or take) by common core standards?

The “for families” report that others have referenced is fine info. But to see exactly what standards your child got wrong ask for the Virginia standards report covering K through the grade above your child’s grade.

The 99th percentile would mean that your child scored better than 99 percent of students at DCs grade level nationally. So, probably not many gaps.

I don’t look at the percentiles but I do look at the standards report. Unless a kiddo had an off day, it seems to track pretty well with what I see in class. And it helps me to fill in gaps that aren’t part of the current grade level standards. Or fill gaps before we arrive at a corresponding unit.

Sorry for the blank post above. The teacher said that there isn't a way to get the I-Ready report aligned to Virginia standards and also did not send the Lexia report with Virginia standards. Is there some additional guidance I could provide the teacher with?

Your teacher is incorrect regarding I-Ready. Perhaps she/he hasn’t used it before. It is under the reports tab at the top, select by student, and there is a Virginia Standards report type. The teacher then selects the grade range. I suggest K through 1 year above your child’s grade. I am unfamiliar with a Lexia report aligned to Virginia. But IReady is available for both math and reading aligned to Virginia. Hope this helps!

Thank you! I mentioned to her that a teacher told me that it could be done and she figured it out but I think only gave for 1st grade. Is there a reason to ask for the range to include one year below and above the child's grade?

I teach upper elementary and I run the report all the way down to K. You’d be surprised what gaps pop up. I’d go a year above just to see if your child has checks in the above grade level since you were curious about that achievement. I’m not sure what might be there - but since it’s an adaptive test, there may be some items checked.

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Anonymous wrote:"I'm nevertheless still perplexed as to how a child can be 99th percentile (475Q) in math on I-Ready and be indicated as on grade level and not meeting or having incomplete knowledge of several standards."

The answer is that these are two distinct comparative metrics. The percentile is comparing your child's performance to other children's performances. In this metric literally all of the test takers could fail but your child could fail less badly and therefore be 99th percentile in comparison. The grade level standard is, instead, comparing your child's performance in relation to the grade level goals (broadly defined, as discussed above).

So, the two metrics combined tell you that your child is doing fine in terms of grade level goals, and better than most other test takers, many of whom are not doing fine in relation to grade level goals

Was this winter iready or fall? If winter, did you see growth from fall to winter?

It was winter (last month) but it was the first DC had ever taken because DC is new to FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:The grade level estimates are tied to common core standards - which are generally lower grade levels than in Virginia (but not for all topics). You want to see the full report for your student aligned to Virginia standards. The teacher can print that out for you. You won’t see the text of the question but you can see which standards were answered incorrectly.

Thank you! So the print out will show it aligned to Virginia standards?

Even so, it still surprises me, but this is helpful to know, thanks.

How can it be that a child can score 99th percentile but be completely average (at grade level, give or take) by common core standards?

The “for families” report that others have referenced is fine info. But to see exactly what standards your child got wrong ask for the Virginia standards report covering K through the grade above your child’s grade.

The 99th percentile would mean that your child scored better than 99 percent of students at DCs grade level nationally. So, probably not many gaps.

I don’t look at the percentiles but I do look at the standards report. Unless a kiddo had an off day, it seems to track pretty well with what I see in class. And it helps me to fill in gaps that aren’t part of the current grade level standards. Or fill gaps before we arrive at a corresponding unit.

Sorry for the blank post above. The teacher said that there isn't a way to get the I-Ready report aligned to Virginia standards and also did not send the Lexia report with Virginia standards. Is there some additional guidance I could provide the teacher with?

Your teacher is incorrect regarding I-Ready. Perhaps she/he hasn’t used it before. It is under the reports tab at the top, select by student, and there is a Virginia Standards report type. The teacher then selects the grade range. I suggest K through 1 year above your child’s grade. I am unfamiliar with a Lexia report aligned to Virginia. But IReady is available for both math and reading aligned to Virginia. Hope this helps!

Thank you! I mentioned to her that a teacher told me that it could be done and she figured it out but I think only gave for 1st grade. Is there a reason to ask for the range to include one year below and above the child's grade?

I teach upper elementary and I run the report all the way down to K. You’d be surprised what gaps pop up. I’d go a year above just to see if your child has checks in the above grade level since you were curious about that achievement. I’m not sure what might be there - but since it’s an adaptive test, there may be some items checked.

Thanks for this suggestion. I will ask for that next time. I think the teacher only selected for grade 1. I would definitely expect some checks in some items for upper grades.

I think the I-Ready was helpful overall in showing the gaps in reading comprehension performance at least--DC may understand texts, but definitely needs practice answering certain kinds of questions (saw it myself yesterday). For me the only part that remains mysterious is why DC's performance was lower than expected in math. We would have expected DC to test more advanced in at least some areas. It might just come down to test taking skills and a bad day, but this didn't seem to hamper DC from showing advanced skills in other areas.

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Anonymous wrote:The grade level estimates are tied to common core standards - which are generally lower grade levels than in Virginia (but not for all topics). You want to see the full report for your student aligned to Virginia standards. The teacher can print that out for you. You won’t see the text of the question but you can see which standards were answered incorrectly.

Thank you! So the print out will show it aligned to Virginia standards?

Even so, it still surprises me, but this is helpful to know, thanks.

How can it be that a child can score 99th percentile but be completely average (at grade level, give or take) by common core standards?

The “for families” report that others have referenced is fine info. But to see exactly what standards your child got wrong ask for the Virginia standards report covering K through the grade above your child’s grade.

The 99th percentile would mean that your child scored better than 99 percent of students at DCs grade level nationally. So, probably not many gaps.

I don’t look at the percentiles but I do look at the standards report. Unless a kiddo had an off day, it seems to track pretty well with what I see in class. And it helps me to fill in gaps that aren’t part of the current grade level standards. Or fill gaps before we arrive at a corresponding unit.

Sorry for the blank post above. The teacher said that there isn't a way to get the I-Ready report aligned to Virginia standards and also did not send the Lexia report with Virginia standards. Is there some additional guidance I could provide the teacher with?

Your teacher is incorrect regarding I-Ready. Perhaps she/he hasn’t used it before. It is under the reports tab at the top, select by student, and there is a Virginia Standards report type. The teacher then selects the grade range. I suggest K through 1 year above your child’s grade. I am unfamiliar with a Lexia report aligned to Virginia. But IReady is available for both math and reading aligned to Virginia. Hope this helps!

Thank you! I mentioned to her that a teacher told me that it could be done and she figured it out but I think only gave for 1st grade. Is there a reason to ask for the range to include one year below and above the child's grade?

I teach upper elementary and I run the report all the way down to K. You’d be surprised what gaps pop up. I’d go a year above just to see if your child has checks in the above grade level since you were curious about that achievement. I’m not sure what might be there - but since it’s an adaptive test, there may be some items checked.

Thanks for this suggestion. I will ask for that next time. I think the teacher only selected for grade 1. I would definitely expect some checks in some items for upper grades.

I think the I-Ready was helpful overall in showing the gaps in reading comprehension performance at least--DC may understand texts, but definitely needs practice answering certain kinds of questions (saw it myself yesterday). For me the only part that remains mysterious is why DC's performance was lower than expected in math. We would have expected DC to test more advanced in at least some areas. It might just come down to test taking skills and a bad day, but this didn't seem to hamper DC from showing advanced skills in other areas.

Your DC did not have an off day, (s)he did great! For winter 1st grade math, a 470 is 21 points above the start of 99th percentile! For reference on points, Iready suggests a growth of ~32 points per school year in 1st grade, so your DC is even quite a bit ahead of others that are also considered 99th percentile.

I’m not sure why iready classifies that as ‘on grade level’ but truthfully I wouldn’t focus as much on that label, and I’d continue to track your DC’s progress to his/her curve on the published percentiles to ensure adequate growth.

I never received a good answer as to why iready ‘on grade’ level ranges are so skewed in lower elementary, but they definitely are. It makes no sense. I’d spend some time looking at the percentile tables linked above, and you’ll get a better feel for how strong a 470 in winter 1st grade is!

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Anonymous wrote:The grade level estimates are tied to common core standards - which are generally lower grade levels than in Virginia (but not for all topics). You want to see the full report for your student aligned to Virginia standards. The teacher can print that out for you. You won’t see the text of the question but you can see which standards were answered incorrectly.

Thank you! So the print out will show it aligned to Virginia standards?

Even so, it still surprises me, but this is helpful to know, thanks.

How can it be that a child can score 99th percentile but be completely average (at grade level, give or take) by common core standards?

The “for families” report that others have referenced is fine info. But to see exactly what standards your child got wrong ask for the Virginia standards report covering K through the grade above your child’s grade.

The 99th percentile would mean that your child scored better than 99 percent of students at DCs grade level nationally. So, probably not many gaps.

I don’t look at the percentiles but I do look at the standards report. Unless a kiddo had an off day, it seems to track pretty well with what I see in class. And it helps me to fill in gaps that aren’t part of the current grade level standards. Or fill gaps before we arrive at a corresponding unit.

Sorry for the blank post above. The teacher said that there isn't a way to get the I-Ready report aligned to Virginia standards and also did not send the Lexia report with Virginia standards. Is there some additional guidance I could provide the teacher with?

Your teacher is incorrect regarding I-Ready. Perhaps she/he hasn’t used it before. It is under the reports tab at the top, select by student, and there is a Virginia Standards report type. The teacher then selects the grade range. I suggest K through 1 year above your child’s grade. I am unfamiliar with a Lexia report aligned to Virginia. But IReady is available for both math and reading aligned to Virginia. Hope this helps!

Thank you! I mentioned to her that a teacher told me that it could be done and she figured it out but I think only gave for 1st grade. Is there a reason to ask for the range to include one year below and above the child's grade?

I teach upper elementary and I run the report all the way down to K. You’d be surprised what gaps pop up. I’d go a year above just to see if your child has checks in the above grade level since you were curious about that achievement. I’m not sure what might be there - but since it’s an adaptive test, there may be some items checked.

Thanks for this suggestion. I will ask for that next time. I think the teacher only selected for grade 1. I would definitely expect some checks in some items for upper grades.

I think the I-Ready was helpful overall in showing the gaps in reading comprehension performance at least--DC may understand texts, but definitely needs practice answering certain kinds of questions (saw it myself yesterday). For me the only part that remains mysterious is why DC's performance was lower than expected in math. We would have expected DC to test more advanced in at least some areas. It might just come down to test taking skills and a bad day, but this didn't seem to hamper DC from showing advanced skills in other areas.

Your DC did not have an off day, (s)he did great! For winter 1st grade math, a 470 is 21 points above the start of 99th percentile! For reference on points, Iready suggests a growth of ~32 points per school year in 1st grade, so your DC is even quite a bit ahead of others that are also considered 99th percentile.

I’m not sure why iready classifies that as ‘on grade level’ but truthfully I wouldn’t focus as much on that label, and I’d continue to track your DC’s progress to his/her curve on the published percentiles to ensure adequate growth.

I never received a good answer as to why iready ‘on grade’ level ranges are so skewed in lower elementary, but they definitely are. It makes no sense. I’d spend some time looking at the percentile tables linked above, and you’ll get a better feel for how strong a 470 in winter 1st grade is!

Lower elementary scores are just so susceptible to a variety of factors: Effects of home life are more pronounced since there has been less impact of being in school so kids who have prior home instruction can look wildly higher at first even if it doesn't reflect a major difference in learning/ability once the other kids also have instruction through school, prior daycare/preschool experiences are also far more variable, kids with disabilities that impact their scores have yet to be diagnosed and supported etc. So the variability in scores is just a lot wider. But by 3rd grade a lot more is evened out --everyone has K-2 under their belt so differences in outside of school experiences while still impactful are less impactful--because you're no longer comparing a kid who has preschool, home instruction/enrichment, educated parents to kids who have just had kindergarten in terms of more formal learning experiences that the iready measures. So a 99% score in 3rd grade on the iready is more meaningful and stable about a child's ability relative to their peers than a 99% score in 1st grade, just because the comparison group has had instructional time to show their competencies as well.

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Anonymous wrote:The grade level estimates are tied to common core standards - which are generally lower grade levels than in Virginia (but not for all topics). You want to see the full report for your student aligned to Virginia standards. The teacher can print that out for you. You won’t see the text of the question but you can see which standards were answered incorrectly.

Thank you! So the print out will show it aligned to Virginia standards?

Even so, it still surprises me, but this is helpful to know, thanks.

How can it be that a child can score 99th percentile but be completely average (at grade level, give or take) by common core standards?

The “for families” report that others have referenced is fine info. But to see exactly what standards your child got wrong ask for the Virginia standards report covering K through the grade above your child’s grade.

The 99th percentile would mean that your child scored better than 99 percent of students at DCs grade level nationally. So, probably not many gaps.

I don’t look at the percentiles but I do look at the standards report. Unless a kiddo had an off day, it seems to track pretty well with what I see in class. And it helps me to fill in gaps that aren’t part of the current grade level standards. Or fill gaps before we arrive at a corresponding unit.

Sorry for the blank post above. The teacher said that there isn't a way to get the I-Ready report aligned to Virginia standards and also did not send the Lexia report with Virginia standards. Is there some additional guidance I could provide the teacher with?

Your teacher is incorrect regarding I-Ready. Perhaps she/he hasn’t used it before. It is under the reports tab at the top, select by student, and there is a Virginia Standards report type. The teacher then selects the grade range. I suggest K through 1 year above your child’s grade. I am unfamiliar with a Lexia report aligned to Virginia. But IReady is available for both math and reading aligned to Virginia. Hope this helps!

Thank you! I mentioned to her that a teacher told me that it could be done and she figured it out but I think only gave for 1st grade. Is there a reason to ask for the range to include one year below and above the child's grade?

I teach upper elementary and I run the report all the way down to K. You’d be surprised what gaps pop up. I’d go a year above just to see if your child has checks in the above grade level since you were curious about that achievement. I’m not sure what might be there - but since it’s an adaptive test, there may be some items checked.

Thanks for this suggestion. I will ask for that next time. I think the teacher only selected for grade 1. I would definitely expect some checks in some items for upper grades.

I think the I-Ready was helpful overall in showing the gaps in reading comprehension performance at least--DC may understand texts, but definitely needs practice answering certain kinds of questions (saw it myself yesterday). For me the only part that remains mysterious is why DC's performance was lower than expected in math. We would have expected DC to test more advanced in at least some areas. It might just come down to test taking skills and a bad day, but this didn't seem to hamper DC from showing advanced skills in other areas.

Your DC did not have an off day, (s)he did great! For winter 1st grade math, a 470 is 21 points above the start of 99th percentile! For reference on points, Iready suggests a growth of ~32 points per school year in 1st grade, so your DC is even quite a bit ahead of others that are also considered 99th percentile.

I’m not sure why iready classifies that as ‘on grade level’ but truthfully I wouldn’t focus as much on that label, and I’d continue to track your DC’s progress to his/her curve on the published percentiles to ensure adequate growth.

I never received a good answer as to why iready ‘on grade’ level ranges are so skewed in lower elementary, but they definitely are. It makes no sense. I’d spend some time looking at the percentile tables linked above, and you’ll get a better feel for how strong a 470 in winter 1st grade is!

Thank you so much for this perspective. I really appreciate it and certainly don't want to give the impression I don't think DC is doing well. I am a proud parent, to be sure. I am just a bit of a data nerd. I should clarify the overall (scale) score for math was 450 and 475Q (quintile). Scale scores for specific areas ranged from 433-470. I don't totally understand the difference between scale score and quintiles and what the quintiles tell you but the percentile tables are definitely useful, thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:The grade level estimates are tied to common core standards - which are generally lower grade levels than in Virginia (but not for all topics). You want to see the full report for your student aligned to Virginia standards. The teacher can print that out for you. You won’t see the text of the question but you can see which standards were answered incorrectly.

Thank you! So the print out will show it aligned to Virginia standards?

Even so, it still surprises me, but this is helpful to know, thanks.

How can it be that a child can score 99th percentile but be completely average (at grade level, give or take) by common core standards?

The “for families” report that others have referenced is fine info. But to see exactly what standards your child got wrong ask for the Virginia standards report covering K through the grade above your child’s grade.

The 99th percentile would mean that your child scored better than 99 percent of students at DCs grade level nationally. So, probably not many gaps.

I don’t look at the percentiles but I do look at the standards report. Unless a kiddo had an off day, it seems to track pretty well with what I see in class. And it helps me to fill in gaps that aren’t part of the current grade level standards. Or fill gaps before we arrive at a corresponding unit.

Sorry for the blank post above. The teacher said that there isn't a way to get the I-Ready report aligned to Virginia standards and also did not send the Lexia report with Virginia standards. Is there some additional guidance I could provide the teacher with?

Your teacher is incorrect regarding I-Ready. Perhaps she/he hasn’t used it before. It is under the reports tab at the top, select by student, and there is a Virginia Standards report type. The teacher then selects the grade range. I suggest K through 1 year above your child’s grade. I am unfamiliar with a Lexia report aligned to Virginia. But IReady is available for both math and reading aligned to Virginia. Hope this helps!

Thank you! I mentioned to her that a teacher told me that it could be done and she figured it out but I think only gave for 1st grade. Is there a reason to ask for the range to include one year below and above the child's grade?

I teach upper elementary and I run the report all the way down to K. You’d be surprised what gaps pop up. I’d go a year above just to see if your child has checks in the above grade level since you were curious about that achievement. I’m not sure what might be there - but since it’s an adaptive test, there may be some items checked.

Thanks for this suggestion. I will ask for that next time. I think the teacher only selected for grade 1. I would definitely expect some checks in some items for upper grades.

I think the I-Ready was helpful overall in showing the gaps in reading comprehension performance at least--DC may understand texts, but definitely needs practice answering certain kinds of questions (saw it myself yesterday). For me the only part that remains mysterious is why DC's performance was lower than expected in math. We would have expected DC to test more advanced in at least some areas. It might just come down to test taking skills and a bad day, but this didn't seem to hamper DC from showing advanced skills in other areas.

Your DC did not have an off day, (s)he did great! For winter 1st grade math, a 470 is 21 points above the start of 99th percentile! For reference on points, Iready suggests a growth of ~32 points per school year in 1st grade, so your DC is even quite a bit ahead of others that are also considered 99th percentile.

I’m not sure why iready classifies that as ‘on grade level’ but truthfully I wouldn’t focus as much on that label, and I’d continue to track your DC’s progress to his/her curve on the published percentiles to ensure adequate growth.

I never received a good answer as to why iready ‘on grade’ level ranges are so skewed in lower elementary, but they definitely are. It makes no sense. I’d spend some time looking at the percentile tables linked above, and you’ll get a better feel for how strong a 470 in winter 1st grade is!

Thank you so much for this perspective. I really appreciate it and certainly don't want to give the impression I don't think DC is doing well. I am a proud parent, to be sure. I am just a bit of a data nerd. I should clarify the overall (scale) score for math was 450 and 475Q (quintile). Scale scores for specific areas ranged from 433-470. I don't totally understand the difference between scale score and quintiles and what the quintiles tell you but the percentile tables are definitely useful, thank you!

By quantile standards, your child is solidly in the middle of a 3rd grade level. https://www.quantiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/MM.T1.-Typical-Grade-Ranges_Quantile.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:The grade level estimates are tied to common core standards - which are generally lower grade levels than in Virginia (but not for all topics). You want to see the full report for your student aligned to Virginia standards. The teacher can print that out for you. You won’t see the text of the question but you can see which standards were answered incorrectly.

Thank you! So the print out will show it aligned to Virginia standards?

Even so, it still surprises me, but this is helpful to know, thanks.

How can it be that a child can score 99th percentile but be completely average (at grade level, give or take) by common core standards?

The “for families” report that others have referenced is fine info. But to see exactly what standards your child got wrong ask for the Virginia standards report covering K through the grade above your child’s grade.

The 99th percentile would mean that your child scored better than 99 percent of students at DCs grade level nationally. So, probably not many gaps.

I don’t look at the percentiles but I do look at the standards report. Unless a kiddo had an off day, it seems to track pretty well with what I see in class. And it helps me to fill in gaps that aren’t part of the current grade level standards. Or fill gaps before we arrive at a corresponding unit.

Sorry for the blank post above. The teacher said that there isn't a way to get the I-Ready report aligned to Virginia standards and also did not send the Lexia report with Virginia standards. Is there some additional guidance I could provide the teacher with?

Your teacher is incorrect regarding I-Ready. Perhaps she/he hasn’t used it before. It is under the reports tab at the top, select by student, and there is a Virginia Standards report type. The teacher then selects the grade range. I suggest K through 1 year above your child’s grade. I am unfamiliar with a Lexia report aligned to Virginia. But IReady is available for both math and reading aligned to Virginia. Hope this helps!

Thank you! I mentioned to her that a teacher told me that it could be done and she figured it out but I think only gave for 1st grade. Is there a reason to ask for the range to include one year below and above the child's grade?

I teach upper elementary and I run the report all the way down to K. You’d be surprised what gaps pop up. I’d go a year above just to see if your child has checks in the above grade level since you were curious about that achievement. I’m not sure what might be there - but since it’s an adaptive test, there may be some items checked.

Thanks for this suggestion. I will ask for that next time. I think the teacher only selected for grade 1. I would definitely expect some checks in some items for upper grades.

I think the I-Ready was helpful overall in showing the gaps in reading comprehension performance at least--DC may understand texts, but definitely needs practice answering certain kinds of questions (saw it myself yesterday). For me the only part that remains mysterious is why DC's performance was lower than expected in math. We would have expected DC to test more advanced in at least some areas. It might just come down to test taking skills and a bad day, but this didn't seem to hamper DC from showing advanced skills in other areas.

Your DC did not have an off day, (s)he did great! For winter 1st grade math, a 470 is 21 points above the start of 99th percentile! For reference on points, Iready suggests a growth of ~32 points per school year in 1st grade, so your DC is even quite a bit ahead of others that are also considered 99th percentile.

I’m not sure why iready classifies that as ‘on grade level’ but truthfully I wouldn’t focus as much on that label, and I’d continue to track your DC’s progress to his/her curve on the published percentiles to ensure adequate growth.

I never received a good answer as to why iready ‘on grade’ level ranges are so skewed in lower elementary, but they definitely are. It makes no sense. I’d spend some time looking at the percentile tables linked above, and you’ll get a better feel for how strong a 470 in winter 1st grade is!

Thank you so much for this perspective. I really appreciate it and certainly don't want to give the impression I don't think DC is doing well. I am a proud parent, to be sure. I am just a bit of a data nerd. I should clarify the overall (scale) score for math was 450 and 475Q (quintile). Scale scores for specific areas ranged from 433-470. I don't totally understand the difference between scale score and quintiles and what the quintiles tell you but the percentile tables are definitely useful, thank you!

By quantile standards, your child is solidly in the middle of a 3rd grade level. https://www.quantiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/MM.T1.-Typical-Grade-Ranges_Quantile.pdf

Very interesting. This leads me to believe that the VA standards and grade-level information provided by the I-Ready is good information to target certain areas for more learning/practice but is not necessarily a good assessment of how well the child is doing, if that makes sense.

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