DD's counselor says Northeastern EDII comes out today! Good luck to those who apply

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$70k in tuition alone!

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Anonymous wrote:$70k in tuition alone!

Anything different from any other privates??

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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised to see that Northeastern’s endowment is so low (especially its endowment per student) and how high its president is paid.

The endowment is not low. It ranks #39 among private national universities and #50 including LACs.
Also it's important to note that the endowment includes the value of hospital and medical facilities for most of the other schools which is irrelevant to most of the undergraduate students. Northeastern does't have those included in it's endowment. Additionally, a significant portion of the student body is on coop during a given semester, so endowment per student is not as bad.

Northeastern’s endowment in 2023 was $1.66 billion, ranking 88th among all schools public and private.

For a private school of over 33,000 full time students it’s a pathetic number - with or without a med school. Its endowment per student is under $50k.

BC’s endowment per student is five times higher. It also doesn’t have a med school.

Tuft’s endowment per student is four times higher. BU’s is double.

Needless to say, Northeastern’s endowment doesn’t come within a mile of any top 25 private. Notre Dame’s endowment per student is 30 times higher, for example - and doesn’t have a med school. Georgetown is the “poorest” top 25 private, and its endowment is twice as large as Northeastern’s for half as many students.

Northeastern is bush league.

#88 among all schools is not bad at all considering medical facility and students on coops . It roughly coincides with its USN&WR ranking which is #53.

Endowment is a good reference and factor to consider, but it's just one of many factors.
The school is more efficient than other schools, thus producing T25 level results and outcomes which is what matters and much more important than the simple endowment number.

Northeastern is one of the top ten largest private universities in the US. The endowments of the other ten dwarf Northeastern - except for BYU, which is church supported.

The endowment is paltry. End of story.

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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised to see that Northeastern’s endowment is so low (especially its endowment per student) and how high its president is paid.

The endowment is not low. It ranks #39 among private national universities and #50 including LACs.
Also it's important to note that the endowment includes the value of hospital and medical facilities for most of the other schools which is irrelevant to most of the undergraduate students. Northeastern does't have those included in it's endowment. Additionally, a significant portion of the student body is on coop during a given semester, so endowment per student is not as bad.

Northeastern’s endowment in 2023 was $1.66 billion, ranking 88th among all schools public and private.

For a private school of over 33,000 full time students it’s a pathetic number - with or without a med school. Its endowment per student is under $50k.

BC’s endowment per student is five times higher. It also doesn’t have a med school.

Tuft’s endowment per student is four times higher. BU’s is double.

Needless to say, Northeastern’s endowment doesn’t come within a mile of any top 25 private. Notre Dame’s endowment per student is 30 times higher, for example - and doesn’t have a med school. Georgetown is the “poorest” top 25 private, and its endowment is twice as large as Northeastern’s for half as many students.

Northeastern is bush league.

#88 among all schools is not bad at all considering medical facility and students on coops . It roughly coincides with its USN&WR ranking which is #53.

Endowment is a good reference and factor to consider, but it's just one of many factors.
The school is more efficient than other schools, thus producing T25 level results and outcomes which is what matters and much more important than the simple endowment number.

Northeastern is one of the top ten largest private universities in the US. The endowments of the other ten dwarf Northeastern - except for BYU, which is church supported.

The endowment is paltry. End of story.

Does it matter?

To me, peer quality and outcomes are the most important considerations and NEU excels on both counts. What is clear to me here is parents are angry that their kid wasn't accepted at a school that was considered beneath them when they attended college in the 80s and 90s.

Whether NEU got there through marketing or other means frankly doesn't matter.

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NE get2 so many apps because it is on common app, gives out fee waivers like candy, and has no supplemental essays. A similar strategy has been employed by Bates with similar results. Why not apply if there is literally no cost in time or money.

NE formerly gave put big merit to attract kids, it no longer has to do that. It does still yield protect so if your kid is high stats, they are only getting inED.

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Anonymous wrote:NE get2 so many apps because it is on common app, gives out fee waivers like candy, and has no supplemental essays. A similar strategy has been employed by Bates with similar results. Why not apply if there is literally no cost in time or money.

NE formerly gave put big merit to attract kids, it no longer has to do that. It does still yield protect so if your kid is high stats, they are only getting inED.

FWIW, our kid got into Boston campus with $27k per year merit.

We're in DC so that makes it cheaper than UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:NE get2 so many apps because it is on common app, gives out fee waivers like candy, and has no supplemental essays. A similar strategy has been employed by Bates with similar results. Why not apply if there is literally no cost in time or money.

NE formerly gave put big merit to attract kids, it no longer has to do that. It does still yield protect so if your kid is high stats, they are only getting inED.

FWIW, our kid got into Boston campus with $27k per year merit.

We're in DC so that makes it cheaper than UVA.

+1. Same. No brainer in favor of NEU.

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Anonymous wrote:NE get2 so many apps because it is on common app, gives out fee waivers like candy, and has no supplemental essays. A similar strategy has been employed by Bates with similar results. Why not apply if there is literally no cost in time or money.

NE formerly gave put big merit to attract kids, it no longer has to do that. It does still yield protect so if your kid is high stats, they are only getting inED.

Three of my kids applied to Northeastern over the past three years.
None got fee waivers. I think Northeastern rather like to make money from the application fees.

Do you have a source? or is it from your @ss??

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NEU does not give out fee waivers any more than any other college. Sure it has no supplement. So a 250 word essay make or breaks an application decision? To the tune of 98,000 applications? 6,500 early decision apps? For 2500 Boston seats?

Get real folks.

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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised to see that Northeastern’s endowment is so low (especially its endowment per student) and how high its president is paid.

The endowment is not low. It ranks #39 among private national universities and #50 including LACs.
Also it's important to note that the endowment includes the value of hospital and medical facilities for most of the other schools which is irrelevant to most of the undergraduate students. Northeastern does't have those included in it's endowment. Additionally, a significant portion of the student body is on coop during a given semester, so endowment per student is not as bad.

Northeastern’s endowment in 2023 was $1.66 billion, ranking 88th among all schools public and private.

For a private school of over 33,000 full time students it’s a pathetic number - with or without a med school. Its endowment per student is under $50k.

BC’s endowment per student is five times higher. It also doesn’t have a med school.

Tuft’s endowment per student is four times higher. BU’s is double.

Needless to say, Northeastern’s endowment doesn’t come within a mile of any top 25 private. Notre Dame’s endowment per student is 30 times higher, for example - and doesn’t have a med school. Georgetown is the “poorest” top 25 private, and its endowment is twice as large as Northeastern’s for half as many students.

Northeastern is bush league.

#88 among all schools is not bad at all considering medical facility and students on coops . It roughly coincides with its USN&WR ranking which is #53.

Endowment is a good reference and factor to consider, but it's just one of many factors.
The school is more efficient than other schools, thus producing T25 level results and outcomes which is what matters and much more important than the simple endowment number.

Northeastern is one of the top ten largest private universities in the US. The endowments of the other ten dwarf Northeastern - except for BYU, which is church supported.

The endowment is paltry. End of story.

Does it matter?

To me, peer quality and outcomes are the most important considerations and NEU excels on both counts. What is clear to me here is parents are angry that their kid wasn't accepted at a school that was considered beneath them when they attended college in the 80s and 90s.

Whether NEU got there through marketing or other means frankly doesn't matter.

My kid was actually accepted (NUIn) but turned it down. I still think their marketing is genius but we were able to see thru it and chose a place that was better fit. In fact, I'm 99% certain my kid would have turned it down even with a Boston campus offer

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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised to see that Northeastern’s endowment is so low (especially its endowment per student) and how high its president is paid.

The endowment is not low. It ranks #39 among private national universities and #50 including LACs.
Also it's important to note that the endowment includes the value of hospital and medical facilities for most of the other schools which is irrelevant to most of the undergraduate students. Northeastern does't have those included in it's endowment. Additionally, a significant portion of the student body is on coop during a given semester, so endowment per student is not as bad.

Northeastern’s endowment in 2023 was $1.66 billion, ranking 88th among all schools public and private.

For a private school of over 33,000 full time students it’s a pathetic number - with or without a med school. Its endowment per student is under $50k.

BC’s endowment per student is five times higher. It also doesn’t have a med school.

Tuft’s endowment per student is four times higher. BU’s is double.

Needless to say, Northeastern’s endowment doesn’t come within a mile of any top 25 private. Notre Dame’s endowment per student is 30 times higher, for example - and doesn’t have a med school. Georgetown is the “poorest” top 25 private, and its endowment is twice as large as Northeastern’s for half as many students.

Northeastern is bush league.

#88 among all schools is not bad at all considering medical facility and students on coops . It roughly coincides with its USN&WR ranking which is #53.

Endowment is a good reference and factor to consider, but it's just one of many factors.
The school is more efficient than other schools, thus producing T25 level results and outcomes which is what matters and much more important than the simple endowment number.

Northeastern is one of the top ten largest private universities in the US. The endowments of the other ten dwarf Northeastern - except for BYU, which is church supported.

The endowment is paltry. End of story.

Does it matter?

To me, peer quality and outcomes are the most important considerations and NEU excels on both counts. What is clear to me here is parents are angry that their kid wasn't accepted at a school that was considered beneath them when they attended college in the 80s and 90s.

Whether NEU got there through marketing or other means frankly doesn't matter.

My kid was actually accepted (NUIn) but turned it down. I still think their marketing is genius but we were able to see thru it and chose a place that was better fit. In fact, I'm 99% certain my kid would have turned it down even with a Boston campus offer

If you have a better option, then of course. Congrats!
NEU is the best option for tons of of kids, and the satisfaction level is Top 5 among the national universities as shown in the retention rate.

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Anonymous wrote:NEU does not give out fee waivers any more than any other college. Sure it has no supplement. So a 250 word essay make or breaks an application decision? To the tune of 98,000 applications? 6,500 early decision apps? For 2500 Boston seats?

Get real folks.

It's in Boston, a very popular College town. And yes, not having any supplemental essays does encourage many to apply. My kid wasn't going to crank out 1-6 Supplementals for every T25--they selected the schools they actually liked to put in the extra work. But what ended up being in their ultimate Top 2 choices was a school without any supplementals, and my kid decided to add it in October, and at that point not having any supplementals was a huge factor (they were sick of writing extra essays and wanted to get on with senior year).

If NEU had even 1 supplemental essay the number of applicants would drop significantly. Add in 2-3 (like many T50 schools have) and it would drop further

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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised to see that Northeastern’s endowment is so low (especially its endowment per student) and how high its president is paid.

The endowment is not low. It ranks #39 among private national universities and #50 including LACs.
Also it's important to note that the endowment includes the value of hospital and medical facilities for most of the other schools which is irrelevant to most of the undergraduate students. Northeastern does't have those included in it's endowment. Additionally, a significant portion of the student body is on coop during a given semester, so endowment per student is not as bad.

Northeastern’s endowment in 2023 was $1.66 billion, ranking 88th among all schools public and private.

For a private school of over 33,000 full time students it’s a pathetic number - with or without a med school. Its endowment per student is under $50k.

BC’s endowment per student is five times higher. It also doesn’t have a med school.

Tuft’s endowment per student is four times higher. BU’s is double.

Needless to say, Northeastern’s endowment doesn’t come within a mile of any top 25 private. Notre Dame’s endowment per student is 30 times higher, for example - and doesn’t have a med school. Georgetown is the “poorest” top 25 private, and its endowment is twice as large as Northeastern’s for half as many students.

Northeastern is bush league.

#88 among all schools is not bad at all considering medical facility and students on coops . It roughly coincides with its USN&WR ranking which is #53.

Endowment is a good reference and factor to consider, but it's just one of many factors.
The school is more efficient than other schools, thus producing T25 level results and outcomes which is what matters and much more important than the simple endowment number.

Northeastern is one of the top ten largest private universities in the US. The endowments of the other ten dwarf Northeastern - except for BYU, which is church supported.

The endowment is paltry. End of story.

Does it matter?

To me, peer quality and outcomes are the most important considerations and NEU excels on both counts. What is clear to me here is parents are angry that their kid wasn't accepted at a school that was considered beneath them when they attended college in the 80s and 90s.

Whether NEU got there through marketing or other means frankly doesn't matter.

My kid was actually accepted (NUIn) but turned it down. I still think their marketing is genius but we were able to see thru it and chose a place that was better fit. In fact, I'm 99% certain my kid would have turned it down even with a Boston campus offer

If you have a better option, then of course. Congrats!
NEU is the best option for tons of of kids, and the satisfaction level is Top 5 among the national universities as shown in the retention rate.

Most who get into NEU should have 2-3+ acceptances from higher ranked schools if they chose wisely (in the 25-50 range)

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Anonymous wrote:NEU does not give out fee waivers any more than any other college. Sure it has no supplement. So a 250 word essay make or breaks an application decision? To the tune of 98,000 applications? 6,500 early decision apps? For 2500 Boston seats?

Get real folks.

It's in Boston, a very popular College town. And yes, not having any supplemental essays does encourage many to apply. My kid wasn't going to crank out 1-6 Supplementals for every T25--they selected the schools they actually liked to put in the extra work. But what ended up being in their ultimate Top 2 choices was a school without any supplementals, and my kid decided to add it in October, and at that point not having any supplementals was a huge factor (they were sick of writing extra essays and wanted to get on with senior year).

If NEU had even 1 supplemental essay the number of applicants would drop significantly. Add in 2-3 (like many T50 schools have) and it would drop further

Did your kid also applied to Case Western, a same ranked school that doesn't have supplement?
or Wentworth Tech which is literally right next to Northeastern for being in a popular college town?

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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised to see that Northeastern’s endowment is so low (especially its endowment per student) and how high its president is paid.

The endowment is not low. It ranks #39 among private national universities and #50 including LACs.
Also it's important to note that the endowment includes the value of hospital and medical facilities for most of the other schools which is irrelevant to most of the undergraduate students. Northeastern does't have those included in it's endowment. Additionally, a significant portion of the student body is on coop during a given semester, so endowment per student is not as bad.

Northeastern’s endowment in 2023 was $1.66 billion, ranking 88th among all schools public and private.

For a private school of over 33,000 full time students it’s a pathetic number - with or without a med school. Its endowment per student is under $50k.

BC’s endowment per student is five times higher. It also doesn’t have a med school.

Tuft’s endowment per student is four times higher. BU’s is double.

Needless to say, Northeastern’s endowment doesn’t come within a mile of any top 25 private. Notre Dame’s endowment per student is 30 times higher, for example - and doesn’t have a med school. Georgetown is the “poorest” top 25 private, and its endowment is twice as large as Northeastern’s for half as many students.

Northeastern is bush league.

#88 among all schools is not bad at all considering medical facility and students on coops . It roughly coincides with its USN&WR ranking which is #53.

Endowment is a good reference and factor to consider, but it's just one of many factors.
The school is more efficient than other schools, thus producing T25 level results and outcomes which is what matters and much more important than the simple endowment number.

Northeastern is one of the top ten largest private universities in the US. The endowments of the other ten dwarf Northeastern - except for BYU, which is church supported.

The endowment is paltry. End of story.

Does it matter?

To me, peer quality and outcomes are the most important considerations and NEU excels on both counts. What is clear to me here is parents are angry that their kid wasn't accepted at a school that was considered beneath them when they attended college in the 80s and 90s.

Whether NEU got there through marketing or other means frankly doesn't matter.

My kid was actually accepted (NUIn) but turned it down. I still think their marketing is genius but we were able to see thru it and chose a place that was better fit. In fact, I'm 99% certain my kid would have turned it down even with a Boston campus offer

If you have a better option, then of course. Congrats!
NEU is the best option for tons of of kids, and the satisfaction level is Top 5 among the national universities as shown in the retention rate.

Most who get into NEU should have 2-3+ acceptances from higher ranked schools if they chose wisely (in the 25-50 range)

Like I mentioned, Northeastern is filled with high stat kids and it's retention rate is ranked #3 which translates to level of satisfaction. Its outcomes match many of the top25 schools.
So, no need to worry about Northeastern and the kids who choose it, and you can go your way in peace.