Jeep Wrangler vs eight point buck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are people trying so hard on DCUM to convince others that Jeeps are a safer/better choice?

People even try to argue they are reliable. I've owned two over the past 20 years. They are fine, and fun. But people are delusional if they actually believe Jeeps are either safer or more reliable than the average car/SUV. They are nice to own, I enjoyed mine - but don't try to convince yourself they are the safer choice for your teenager or college student.

I think it’s just a predictable reaction to the “OMG Jeeps are deathtraps! The only people who ever survive riding in a Jeep are the one who broke down! But they all break down! So everyone survives? No they still died because the Jeep flipped over on top of them while it was parked!” crowd that seems so common here.

Face, there seem to be a LOT of people on this forum who dislike Jeeps- passionately. I don’t understand it. But it’s real.

I think it’s due to them being deeply unhappy with themselves and being angry and triggered at the sight of someone driving something that makes them happy.

But it’s real. Definitely.

I am in my early 50s and had never bought a new car for myself. I did buy a Jeep in part because the terrain where I live (definitely not DC!) needs high clearance sometimes, but mostly because it makes me happy. That is new for me. I just always thought of adventure when I would see a Jeep driving or a parking lot.

There are rollover issues if you are in the wrong situation, and you need to be aware of that. There are hybrids that can help with concerns about carbon footprint.

All in all, though, 3 years out and it still makes me happy. I still smile when I see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are people trying so hard on DCUM to convince others that Jeeps are a safer/better choice?

People even try to argue they are reliable. I've owned two over the past 20 years. They are fine, and fun. But people are delusional if they actually believe Jeeps are either safer or more reliable than the average car/SUV. They are nice to own, I enjoyed mine - but don't try to convince yourself they are the safer choice for your teenager or college student.

I think it’s just a predictable reaction to the “OMG Jeeps are deathtraps! The only people who ever survive riding in a Jeep are the one who broke down! But they all break down! So everyone survives? No they still died because the Jeep flipped over on top of them while it was parked!” crowd that seems so common here.

Face, there seem to be a LOT of people on this forum who dislike Jeeps- passionately. I don’t understand it. But it’s real.

I think it’s due to them being deeply unhappy with themselves and being angry and triggered at the sight of someone driving something that makes them happy.

But it’s real. Definitely.

I am in my early 50s and had never bought a new car for myself. I did buy a Jeep in part because the terrain where I live (definitely not DC!) needs high clearance sometimes, but mostly because it makes me happy. That is new for me. I just always thought of adventure when I would see a Jeep driving or a parking lot.

There are rollover issues if you are in the wrong situation, and you need to be aware of that. There are hybrids that can help with concerns about carbon footprint.

All in all, though, 3 years out and it still makes me happy. I still smile when I see it.

And that’s why the people who choose to drive Jeeps, drive Jeeps. Literally no one drives a Jeep because they have no other option or are settling. Everyone with Jeep keys in their pocket or purse has them because the want one. Because it makes them happy. Life is too short to put up with vehicles that don’t make you happy.


And that’s where the hate for Jeeps and their owners comes from.

[Anonymous]

I like Jeeps- don’t have one now, but did have one decades ago. It’s simply asinine to get on your high horse about buying a Jeep for its “safety” features. They barely have doors or a roof (that’s why they have roll bars) and they handle terribly. I would take my chances in a Camry every time versus a Jeep in a crash. The Camry won’t just fare better, it will do a much better job of handling/maneuvering to avoid an accident.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are people trying so hard on DCUM to convince others that Jeeps are a safer/better choice?

People even try to argue they are reliable. I've owned two over the past 20 years. They are fine, and fun. But people are delusional if they actually believe Jeeps are either safer or more reliable than the average car/SUV. They are nice to own, I enjoyed mine - but don't try to convince yourself they are the safer choice for your teenager or college student.

I think it’s just a predictable reaction to the “OMG Jeeps are deathtraps! The only people who ever survive riding in a Jeep are the one who broke down! But they all break down! So everyone survives? No they still died because the Jeep flipped over on top of them while it was parked!” crowd that seems so common here.

Face, there seem to be a LOT of people on this forum who dislike Jeeps- passionately. I don’t understand it. But it’s real.

I think it’s due to them being deeply unhappy with themselves and being angry and triggered at the sight of someone driving something that makes them happy.

But it’s real. Definitely.

I am in my early 50s and had never bought a new car for myself. I did buy a Jeep in part because the terrain where I live (definitely not DC!) needs high clearance sometimes, but mostly because it makes me happy. That is new for me. I just always thought of adventure when I would see a Jeep driving or a parking lot.

There are rollover issues if you are in the wrong situation, and you need to be aware of that. There are hybrids that can help with concerns about carbon footprint.

All in all, though, 3 years out and it still makes me happy. I still smile when I see it.

And that’s why the people who choose to drive Jeeps, drive Jeeps. Literally no one drives a Jeep because they have no other option or are settling. Everyone with Jeep keys in their pocket or purse has them because the want one. Because it makes them happy. Life is too short to put up with vehicles that don’t make you happy.


And that’s where the hate for Jeeps and their owners comes from.

No hate here for Jeeps and their owners. It’s just funny that OP is touting the Jeep for its “safety.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like Jeeps- don’t have one now, but did have one decades ago. It’s simply asinine to get on your high horse about buying a Jeep for its “safety” features. They barely have doors or a roof (that’s why they have roll bars) and they handle terribly. I would take my chances in a Camry every time versus a Jeep in a crash. The Camry won’t just fare better, it will do a much better job of handling/maneuvering to avoid an accident.

The Jeep is about twice the weight of the Camry. I'd say you're making a poor bet there.

[Anonymous]

I drive Jeeps because a family member gets the manufacturer's discount. Only problem for me is the electronic safety systems. For whatever reason, they shut off without warning. Then the next time I turn on the vehicle, it's fine. Bad weather? Very happy to be in one. Not great handling, but for my needs, it's fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like Jeeps- don’t have one now, but did have one decades ago. It’s simply asinine to get on your high horse about buying a Jeep for its “safety” features. They barely have doors or a roof (that’s why they have roll bars) and they handle terribly. I would take my chances in a Camry every time versus a Jeep in a crash. The Camry won’t just fare better, it will do a much better job of handling/maneuvering to avoid an accident.

The Jeep is about twice the weight of the Camry. I'd say you're making a poor bet there.

A Camry weighs about 3,500 lbs. A stock Wrangler Unlimited weighs about 4,300 lbs. Even my heavily modified ‘16 JKUR hardtop on 37’s with internal cage, rock rail armor and full skidplating, steel tire carrier rear bumper, and steel winch bumper is only 5,760 lbs…

If you want heavy - really heavy - get a Rivian. 7,200 lbs. THAT is twice the weight of a Camry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like Jeeps- don’t have one now, but did have one decades ago. It’s simply asinine to get on your high horse about buying a Jeep for its “safety” features. They barely have doors or a roof (that’s why they have roll bars) and they handle terribly. I would take my chances in a Camry every time versus a Jeep in a crash. The Camry won’t just fare better, it will do a much better job of handling/maneuvering to avoid an accident.

Not modern jeeps. My has a full roof, all the safety features and doors. And, steel bumpers that would crush your plastic ones. Mine maneuvers much better than my parents camera and more fun to drive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I drive Jeeps because a family member gets the manufacturer's discount. Only problem for me is the electronic safety systems. For whatever reason, they shut off without warning. Then the next time I turn on the vehicle, it's fine. Bad weather? Very happy to be in one. Not great handling, but for my needs, it's fine.

You got a dud. Take it to the dealer and demand they fix it. Mine is fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like Jeeps- don’t have one now, but did have one decades ago. It’s simply asinine to get on your high horse about buying a Jeep for its “safety” features. They barely have doors or a roof (that’s why they have roll bars) and they handle terribly. I would take my chances in a Camry every time versus a Jeep in a crash. The Camry won’t just fare better, it will do a much better job of handling/maneuvering to avoid an accident.

Not modern jeeps. My has a full roof, all the safety features and doors. And, steel bumpers that would crush your plastic ones. Mine maneuvers much better than my parents camera and more fun to drive.

I know Jeeps are fun to drive, but if you’re doing speed and need to quickly maneuver out of the way something coming at you, Camry or sedan win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like Jeeps- don’t have one now, but did have one decades ago. It’s simply asinine to get on your high horse about buying a Jeep for its “safety” features. They barely have doors or a roof (that’s why they have roll bars) and they handle terribly. I would take my chances in a Camry every time versus a Jeep in a crash. The Camry won’t just fare better, it will do a much better job of handling/maneuvering to avoid an accident.

Not modern jeeps. My has a full roof, all the safety features and doors. And, steel bumpers that would crush your plastic ones. Mine maneuvers much better than my parents camera and more fun to drive.

I’ve probably owned two dozen Jeeps since I was 14 (not really sure exactly how many, so I say “probably”) and my two favorites were a ‘73 Jeepster Commando, and an ‘84 CJ-8. This includes the JK and WK that I currently own right now. I still have the CJ-8, too. And I’d rather drive it than anything else. No top. No doors. No A/C, no interior, no carpet, 4 speed T-18 behind a swapped-in 360 with a Dana 300 twin stick and Waggy 6 lug D44’s. Drove that Jeep all the way from Bethesda to Puerto Magdalena, Mexico twice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like Jeeps- don’t have one now, but did have one decades ago. It’s simply asinine to get on your high horse about buying a Jeep for its “safety” features. They barely have doors or a roof (that’s why they have roll bars) and they handle terribly. I would take my chances in a Camry every time versus a Jeep in a crash. The Camry won’t just fare better, it will do a much better job of handling/maneuvering to avoid an accident.. Wranglers have gotten better with each generation. You should test drive a 392 0 to 60 in 4.5 seconds! It will blow the doors off of a Camry!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like Jeeps- don’t have one now, but did have one decades ago. It’s simply asinine to get on your high horse about buying a Jeep for its “safety” features. They barely have doors or a roof (that’s why they have roll bars) and they handle terribly. I would take my chances in a Camry every time versus a Jeep in a crash. The Camry won’t just fare better, it will do a much better job of handling/maneuvering to avoid an accident.

Not modern jeeps. My has a full roof, all the safety features and doors. And, steel bumpers that would crush your plastic ones. Mine maneuvers much better than my parents camera and more fun to drive.

Modern Jeeps aren’t real Jeeps. They have air conditioning, power windows and automatic transmissions. Also the 4wd shifter is usually covered in cobwebs, since they are rarely taken off road.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like Jeeps- don’t have one now, but did have one decades ago. It’s simply asinine to get on your high horse about buying a Jeep for its “safety” features. They barely have doors or a roof (that’s why they have roll bars) and they handle terribly. I would take my chances in a Camry every time versus a Jeep in a crash. The Camry won’t just fare better, it will do a much better job of handling/maneuvering to avoid an accident.

Not modern jeeps. My has a full roof, all the safety features and doors. And, steel bumpers that would crush your plastic ones. Mine maneuvers much better than my parents camera and more fun to drive.

Modern Jeeps aren’t real Jeeps. They have air conditioning, power windows and automatic transmissions. Also the 4wd shifter is usually covered in cobwebs, since they are rarely taken off road.

I desperately wish they only sold Jeeps without that stuff.

[Anonymous]

This is so, so dumb. "I have to buy my kid an SUV because if she hits an 8 point buck going 50 mph, it's safer." Just idiocy.