Is there general agreement that if your score is above 25th percentile, you should submit?

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Anonymous wrote:The theory is that it at least helps the school drag up the bottom end of the range.

Are there any circumstances where one would advise otherwise?

On principle, yes, unless you are from a disadvantaged background. TO is BS. GPAs alone mean nothing as there is no standardization across this country.

Standardized testing with the tutoring and superscoriing is BS too. And?

The status quo is no more. Get used to it. Submit the score. Or not. Unless you live in California.

Regarding the "Unless you live in California" part, you're not suggesting that an applicant from California with a 1600 or a 36 in their first and only attempt submit Test Optional for Top 20 schools, right? It's downright insane that I have to ask, but given the opinions here, it absolutely feels necessary to seek clarification.

You can’t submit scores to CA state schools because they are test blind.

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Anonymous wrote:Non-URM: submit if you are at 50 or above. Will slightly benefit at 75 and above.

URM, FGLI: Submit at 25 and above. Will help at 50 and above.

This is just wrong, elite college admissions officers are now saying they prefer scores.

The only schools where I would be stingy in submitting are Tulane and NE, because they openly say they want only high scores and admit a ton of kids test optional.

Agree it’s wrong.

Add Vanderbilt - their goal is to move their 25%-75% from 34-35 to 35-36….

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Do not submit unless a 34…..

[Anonymous]

Observations: Vandy's 25th percentile is currently 1490/34, with 61% (max, excluding overlap) submitting scores. Back in fall 2020, the 25th percentile was 1470/33, with 100% submitting scores. Historically, Vandy has always liked high scores, seeming to emphasize academic stats over more subjective parts of the app. It will be interesting to see what Vandy does going forward. If I were Vandy, I would want to see that % submitting a bit higher.

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Anonymous wrote:Observations: Vandy's 25th percentile is currently 1490/34, with 61% (max, excluding overlap) submitting scores. Back in fall 2020, the 25th percentile was 1470/33, with 100% submitting scores. Historically, Vandy has always liked high scores, seeming to emphasize academic stats over more subjective parts of the app. It will be interesting to see what Vandy does going forward. If I were Vandy, I would want to see that % submitting a bit higher.

I agree, especially if Vandy wants to be a peer of schools that only accept 10-20% TO because of brand strength. Ironically, that will not happen if Vandy doesn't encourage people to submit with scores between the 25th and 50th percentile.

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Anonymous wrote:Non-URM: submit if you are at 50 or above. Will slightly benefit at 75 and above.

URM, FGLI: Submit at 25 and above. Will help at 50 and above.

50 0r above for that school (based on previous year?), or overall among SAT participants?

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Anonymous wrote:Observations: Vandy's 25th percentile is currently 1490/34, with 61% (max, excluding overlap) submitting scores. Back in fall 2020, the 25th percentile was 1470/33, with 100% submitting scores. Historically, Vandy has always liked high scores, seeming to emphasize academic stats over more subjective parts of the app. It will be interesting to see what Vandy does going forward. If I were Vandy, I would want to see that % submitting a bit higher.

I agree, especially if Vandy wants to be a peer of schools that only accept 10-20% TO because of brand strength. Ironically, that will not happen if Vandy doesn't encourage people to submit with scores between the 25th and 50th percentile.

Someone should make a calculator to readjust the 25-75th percentiles to estimate what they would be with 100% reporting.

Say school A is 1480-1550 with 90% reporting --> maybe that's 1470-1550
But school B is 1500-1570 with 50% reporting --> probably more like 1420-1530