Public School Son Has Far Better College Prospects Than Private School Daughter

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Ivy commits at our public HS are URMs and legacies.


As are those at our private. Plus athletes.

Anonymous
also have one at public and Big 3 but a bit younger than OP. I have heard that girls at NCS with a 3.6ish gpa would have no trouble getting into SLAC that are not common for large numbers of admissions from public, think Bowdoin or Williams or U Chicago rather than schools like Wisconsin than care more about GPA than rigor, and recommendations or don’t do the same holistic review. Not sure if this lines up with other experiences?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Ivy commits at our public HS are URMs and legacies.


As are those at our private. Plus athletes.


Yes athletes too at our public , np here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:also have one at public and Big 3 but a bit younger than OP. I have heard that girls at NCS with a 3.6ish gpa would have no trouble getting into SLAC that are not common for large numbers of admissions from public, think Bowdoin or Williams or U Chicago rather than schools like Wisconsin than care more about GPA than rigor, and recommendations or don’t do the same holistic review. Not sure if this lines up with other experiences?


No, Williams and Bowdoin need a 3.85+ from NCS.
Chicago is different. You may get in there with the 3.6

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP you must not know the current college admit scene. Boys have a much easier time getting into college with lower stats than girls. Boys make up much lower percentages of most colleges now.
I’m
BTW- do not put stock in some random college counselors predictions. You will be sadly disappointed. Are you from another country? Did you go to college?


This. Boys are getting in Willy nilly. Also 4.5 is stupid. Just stupid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:also have one at public and Big 3 but a bit younger than OP. I have heard that girls at NCS with a 3.6ish gpa would have no trouble getting into SLAC that are not common for large numbers of admissions from public, think Bowdoin or Williams or U Chicago rather than schools like Wisconsin than care more about GPA than rigor, and recommendations or don’t do the same holistic review. Not sure if this lines up with other experiences?


No, Williams and Bowdoin need a 3.85+ from NCS.
Chicago is different. You may get in there with the 3.6



I just switched one kid to private and he has mostly B’s right now. I know he is adjusting still but I doubt he will end up with a 4.0.

Where would a 3.5 gpa kid from private end up?
Anonymous
I don’t know why people immediately call troll. OP is sharing an experience that is more common than people realize because she has experience with two different school systems.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My parents found this out the hard way too. I would have had much better college prospects from my local public.


I have read and heard that for an unhooked UMC smart kid, chances are often worse at a big 3 to get into a top college.

I have met some extremely impressive parents with top educational pedigree. Just because your parents went to HYP, it doesn’t mean your kid will. Being a legacy with lawyer parents doesn’t get you very far.


But you have a hook if your parents attended HYP or you are applying. So the kid you described would be an unhooked UMC kid. And as someone who attended HYP undergrad and whose spouse did too you need to try to throw everything at admissions. Interesting national level ECs, recruitable athlete in at least one sport (think water polo), good grades, plenty of test prep. You have to go at this early and cast a wide net with everything.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My parents found this out the hard way too. I would have had much better college prospects from my local public.


I have read and heard that for an unhooked UMC smart kid, chances are often worse at a big 3 to get into a top college.

I have met some extremely impressive parents with top educational pedigree. Just because your parents went to HYP, it doesn’t mean your kid will. Being a legacy with lawyer parents doesn’t get you very far.


But you have a hook if your parents attended HYP or you are applying. So the kid you described would be an unhooked UMC kid. And as someone who attended HYP undergrad and whose spouse did too you need to try to throw everything at admissions. Interesting national level ECs, recruitable athlete in at least one sport (think water polo), good grades, plenty of test prep. You have to go at this early and cast a wide net with everything.



Sorry- i meant the kid you described would be a hooked kid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Fairly confident this is a troll post but yeah, pick your kid’s school based on best fit, not aspirational college hopes.


This.

Never occurred to me to choose MS and HS private based on college dreams. My kid is happy, engaged, and doing well at his school. That is what I care about.

And Deal - J.R.? No thanks. That’s why we went private.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP you must not know the current college admit scene. Boys have a much easier time getting into college with lower stats than girls. Boys make up much lower percentages of most colleges now.
I’m
BTW- do not put stock in some random college counselors predictions. You will be sadly disappointed. Are you from another country? Did you go to college?


This. Boys are getting in Willy nilly. Also 4.5 is stupid. Just stupid.


Not true. At my son's top choice, women have a 29% admit rate. Men are 17%.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Ivy commits at our public HS are URMs and legacies.


Not all. I know several white girls at DD’s big MoCo public who got into USNWR top 5 schools. But their ECs, including DD’s ECs, knocked it out of the park, so you could possibly argue they had hooks. DD wasn’t an athletic recruit, fwiw.

To the idiot who thinks top kids at public schools never do any work or learn anything—you’re an idiot. DD is doing great at her top university.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, to be honest, this checks out. I have known many Wilson/JR kids and many private schools kids over the years - kids that have similar backgrounds, similar academic skills and extracurriculars, etc.

It is not true of every kid, but as a group, the Wilson/JR kids seem to be more prepared for and have more success than the private school kids once they get to college.

I don't know what it is, but something about Wilson/JR seems to prepare kids for success in college and beyond.



This is a laughable post. 😂
JR grads are not better prepared academically than most DC private school students.
JR might provide better preparation for avoiding fights, drug deals, and navigating institutional bureaucracy…but that’s about it.


Right, no one believes this.
Anonymous
No mention of perspective majors, extras, etc. All of that matters!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just started a thread about how often kids hang out after school with friends. I am wondering if sending my son to an inconvenient private is worth it.

My neighbor sent her kids to NCS and boarding. They both went on to ivy schools but not happy. Mom told me that she thinks her kids would have been happier at the local public. Her daughter did well at NCS but didn’t have the best social experience.

I don’t think you should assume an NCS experience is a typical private experience. I went to a different private but had lots of friends there, and they were all miserable. Now many years later, my children are at the private I went to, and their friends (primarily from a travel sport) who go to NCS all hate it.
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