How much screen time/technology is used in elementary schools in 2023?

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid and central off said last year that teachers need to get back to pen and paper. Less google slide assignments and no you tube real alouds, etc. But it is not translating down to the schools and curriculum services hasn’t been able to re write and take out old slide decks from the Covid time.

They need to take the 1:1 laptops out of the ESes and mandate a max amount of time kids can be on the laptops doing work.

I agree with K-3 should have limited tech usage. I do think 4-6 should have daily tech usage.

Kids need to know how to research, utilize programs, type, put together presentations. If kids don’t get these skills in late ES, middle and high school will be much more difficult. I am not saying they should be glued to a computer, but they should be utilized daily. One goal of school is preparing the workforce. Most jobs use computers daily.

If they actually learned to type, that would be useful. Sadly, they do not.
MS and HS is plenty of time for the extremely difficult task of learning how to put google images in slide shows.
They need to learn how to read, take notes, think about a topic, and organize their thoughts, draft, revise, etc. ALL of that is best done with real books and on paper. Using the "programs" is simple and can come much later.

If schools wanted to have one room with laptops where kids went for a special, that would be reasonable. They don't need laptops to learn. The laptops are detrimental to learning.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid and central off said last year that teachers need to get back to pen and paper. Less google slide assignments and no you tube real alouds, etc. But it is not translating down to the schools and curriculum services hasn’t been able to re write and take out old slide decks from the Covid time.

Teacher here. I wonder if the schools who are mostly on laptops all day are the ones who were 1:1 with FCPSOn before Covid. I don’t know one teacher at my school that has kids on computers all day(virtual notebooks, google slide assignments, etc.) Technology is used but not all day. I would say if I had to estimate by grade level…
K-2- 30 mins a day
3-30-60 mins a day
4-6- 30-120 mins a day. 120 mins is when certain projects are happening or students are getting ready to publish pieces.

Good teachers know how to balance the tech usage.

My older dc went to the same ES as my 3rd. The older 2 they had one laptop cart for the whole grade. They were on laptops very little and did lots of physical projects and handwritten work. After Covid, the same school, youngest was on laptops for 2-3 hours every day in 4th, 5th and now 6th. The bulk of the instructional day. In 4th grade, he brought home maybe 5 pieces of handwritten work ALL YEAR LONG.
Some teachers are still using the "Gatehouse slides" as pp called them.

I don't see what's wrong with using the district's slides if they are tied to the standards and teach the content--why reinvent the wheel? Especially since the teacher shortage has meant they need to hire more provisional licensed teachers/teacher trainees etc. They have enough on their hands managing 26+ kids not to mention doing all the outside work to become licensed. And other teachers are taking up the slack for the beginning teachers. I'd advise you to choose your battles a little more wisely.

Gatehouse links these flies in the pacing guide. There is a hope (and expectation) that they are used daily in the classroom. Some of the older teachers have reverted back to their previous materials, but the new teachers use these linked slides quite frequently.

Man, that's sad. The ones I saw during Covid were awful. Really makes me wonder what other garbage they are suggesting people use to teach.

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If I could do elementary and maybe even middle school for my kids over again I would pick a school without computers.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid and central off said last year that teachers need to get back to pen and paper. Less google slide assignments and no you tube real alouds, etc. But it is not translating down to the schools and curriculum services hasn’t been able to re write and take out old slide decks from the Covid time.

They need to take the 1:1 laptops out of the ESes and mandate a max amount of time kids can be on the laptops doing work.

I agree with K-3 should have limited tech usage. I do think 4-6 should have daily tech usage.

Kids need to know how to research, utilize programs, type, put together presentations. If kids don’t get these skills in late ES, middle and high school will be much more difficult. I am not saying they should be glued to a computer, but they should be utilized daily. One goal of school is preparing the workforce. Most jobs use computers daily.

If they actually learned to type, that would be useful. Sadly, they do not.
MS and HS is plenty of time for the extremely difficult task of learning how to put google images in slide shows.
They need to learn how to read, take notes, think about a topic, and organize their thoughts, draft, revise, etc. ALL of that is best done with real books and on paper. Using the "programs" is simple and can come much later.

If schools wanted to have one room with laptops where kids went for a special, that would be reasonable. They don't need laptops to learn. The laptops are detrimental to learning.

I am previous poster. They can learn how to read, think, draft, revise and also learn how to use technology. I don’t agree with all day technology usage as some posters are claiming, but technology is and will be a part of our society so education should include tech usage. Everything should be balanced. Schools should not look exactly the same as they did 50 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid and central off said last year that teachers need to get back to pen and paper. Less google slide assignments and no you tube real alouds, etc. But it is not translating down to the schools and curriculum services hasn’t been able to re write and take out old slide decks from the Covid time.

They need to take the 1:1 laptops out of the ESes and mandate a max amount of time kids can be on the laptops doing work.

I agree with K-3 should have limited tech usage. I do think 4-6 should have daily tech usage.

Kids need to know how to research, utilize programs, type, put together presentations. If kids don’t get these skills in late ES, middle and high school will be much more difficult. I am not saying they should be glued to a computer, but they should be utilized daily. One goal of school is preparing the workforce. Most jobs use computers daily.

If they actually learned to type, that would be useful. Sadly, they do not.
MS and HS is plenty of time for the extremely difficult task of learning how to put google images in slide shows.
They need to learn how to read, take notes, think about a topic, and organize their thoughts, draft, revise, etc. ALL of that is best done with real books and on paper. Using the "programs" is simple and can come much later.

If schools wanted to have one room with laptops where kids went for a special, that would be reasonable. They don't need laptops to learn. The laptops are detrimental to learning.

I am previous poster. They can learn how to read, think, draft, revise and also learn how to use technology. I don’t agree with all day technology usage as some posters are claiming, but technology is and will be a part of our society so education should include tech usage. Everything should be balanced. Schools should not look exactly the same as they did 50 years ago.

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I think my kid's school is striking a great balance with it.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid and central off said last year that teachers need to get back to pen and paper. Less google slide assignments and no you tube real alouds, etc. But it is not translating down to the schools and curriculum services hasn’t been able to re write and take out old slide decks from the Covid time.

They need to take the 1:1 laptops out of the ESes and mandate a max amount of time kids can be on the laptops doing work.

I agree with K-3 should have limited tech usage. I do think 4-6 should have daily tech usage.

Kids need to know how to research, utilize programs, type, put together presentations. If kids don’t get these skills in late ES, middle and high school will be much more difficult. I am not saying they should be glued to a computer, but they should be utilized daily. One goal of school is preparing the workforce. Most jobs use computers daily.

If they actually learned to type, that would be useful. Sadly, they do not.
MS and HS is plenty of time for the extremely difficult task of learning how to put google images in slide shows.
They need to learn how to read, take notes, think about a topic, and organize their thoughts, draft, revise, etc. ALL of that is best done with real books and on paper. Using the "programs" is simple and can come much later.

If schools wanted to have one room with laptops where kids went for a special, that would be reasonable. They don't need laptops to learn. The laptops are detrimental to learning.

I am previous poster. They can learn how to read, think, draft, revise and also learn how to use technology. I don’t agree with all day technology usage as some posters are claiming, but technology is and will be a part of our society so education should include tech usage. Everything should be balanced. Schools should not look exactly the same as they did 50 years ago.

DP. Tech usage could be a lot more restricted than it is now and students could still learn those skills. Also, I don’t buy this idea that kids in ES need to learn how to do the things you listed. Many of us grew up without ever doing these things in school (because it don’t exist yet) and had no problem learning how when the time came. It’s not hard to make presentations. Now if schools were using computers to teach actual tech skills like coding, that would be useful.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid and central off said last year that teachers need to get back to pen and paper. Less google slide assignments and no you tube real alouds, etc. But it is not translating down to the schools and curriculum services hasn’t been able to re write and take out old slide decks from the Covid time.

They need to take the 1:1 laptops out of the ESes and mandate a max amount of time kids can be on the laptops doing work.

I agree with K-3 should have limited tech usage. I do think 4-6 should have daily tech usage.

Kids need to know how to research, utilize programs, type, put together presentations. If kids don’t get these skills in late ES, middle and high school will be much more difficult. I am not saying they should be glued to a computer, but they should be utilized daily. One goal of school is preparing the workforce. Most jobs use computers daily.

If they actually learned to type, that would be useful. Sadly, they do not.
MS and HS is plenty of time for the extremely difficult task of learning how to put google images in slide shows.
They need to learn how to read, take notes, think about a topic, and organize their thoughts, draft, revise, etc. ALL of that is best done with real books and on paper. Using the "programs" is simple and can come much later.

If schools wanted to have one room with laptops where kids went for a special, that would be reasonable. They don't need laptops to learn. The laptops are detrimental to learning.

I am previous poster. They can learn how to read, think, draft, revise and also learn how to use technology. I don’t agree with all day technology usage as some posters are claiming, but technology is and will be a part of our society so education should include tech usage. Everything should be balanced. Schools should not look exactly the same as they did 50 years ago.

DP. Tech usage could be a lot more restricted than it is now and students could still learn those skills. Also, I don’t buy this idea that kids in ES need to learn how to do the things you listed. Many of us grew up without ever doing these things in school (because it don’t exist yet) and had no problem learning how when the time came. It’s not hard to make presentations. Now if schools were using computers to teach actual tech skills like coding, that would be useful.

*didn’t exist

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid and central off said last year that teachers need to get back to pen and paper. Less google slide assignments and no you tube real alouds, etc. But it is not translating down to the schools and curriculum services hasn’t been able to re write and take out old slide decks from the Covid time.

They need to take the 1:1 laptops out of the ESes and mandate a max amount of time kids can be on the laptops doing work.

I agree with K-3 should have limited tech usage. I do think 4-6 should have daily tech usage.

Kids need to know how to research, utilize programs, type, put together presentations. If kids don’t get these skills in late ES, middle and high school will be much more difficult. I am not saying they should be glued to a computer, but they should be utilized daily. One goal of school is preparing the workforce. Most jobs use computers daily.

If they actually learned to type, that would be useful. Sadly, they do not.
MS and HS is plenty of time for the extremely difficult task of learning how to put google images in slide shows.
They need to learn how to read, take notes, think about a topic, and organize their thoughts, draft, revise, etc. ALL of that is best done with real books and on paper. Using the "programs" is simple and can come much later.

If schools wanted to have one room with laptops where kids went for a special, that would be reasonable. They don't need laptops to learn. The laptops are detrimental to learning.

I am previous poster. They can learn how to read, think, draft, revise and also learn how to use technology. I don’t agree with all day technology usage as some posters are claiming, but technology is and will be a part of our society so education should include tech usage. Everything should be balanced. Schools should not look exactly the same as they did 50 years ago.

DP. Tech usage could be a lot more restricted than it is now and students could still learn those skills. Also, I don’t buy this idea that kids in ES need to learn how to do the things you listed. Many of us grew up without ever doing these things in school (because it don’t exist yet) and had no problem learning how when the time came. It’s not hard to make presentations. Now if schools were using computers to teach actual tech skills like coding, that would be useful.

A ton of people DO have problem learning basic tech when they didn't grow up with it. I would say about 15% of the workforce 45 and up. I encounter it all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid and central off said last year that teachers need to get back to pen and paper. Less google slide assignments and no you tube real alouds, etc. But it is not translating down to the schools and curriculum services hasn’t been able to re write and take out old slide decks from the Covid time.

They need to take the 1:1 laptops out of the ESes and mandate a max amount of time kids can be on the laptops doing work.

I agree with K-3 should have limited tech usage. I do think 4-6 should have daily tech usage.

Kids need to know how to research, utilize programs, type, put together presentations. If kids don’t get these skills in late ES, middle and high school will be much more difficult. I am not saying they should be glued to a computer, but they should be utilized daily. One goal of school is preparing the workforce. Most jobs use computers daily.

If they actually learned to type, that would be useful. Sadly, they do not.
MS and HS is plenty of time for the extremely difficult task of learning how to put google images in slide shows.
They need to learn how to read, take notes, think about a topic, and organize their thoughts, draft, revise, etc. ALL of that is best done with real books and on paper. Using the "programs" is simple and can come much later.

If schools wanted to have one room with laptops where kids went for a special, that would be reasonable. They don't need laptops to learn. The laptops are detrimental to learning.

I am previous poster. They can learn how to read, think, draft, revise and also learn how to use technology. I don’t agree with all day technology usage as some posters are claiming, but technology is and will be a part of our society so education should include tech usage. Everything should be balanced. Schools should not look exactly the same as they did 50 years ago.

You say that like you think people are lying?

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Every parent should get the lightspeed reports. I was pretty shocked.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid and central off said last year that teachers need to get back to pen and paper. Less google slide assignments and no you tube real alouds, etc. But it is not translating down to the schools and curriculum services hasn’t been able to re write and take out old slide decks from the Covid time.

They need to take the 1:1 laptops out of the ESes and mandate a max amount of time kids can be on the laptops doing work.

I agree with K-3 should have limited tech usage. I do think 4-6 should have daily tech usage.

Kids need to know how to research, utilize programs, type, put together presentations. If kids don’t get these skills in late ES, middle and high school will be much more difficult. I am not saying they should be glued to a computer, but they should be utilized daily. One goal of school is preparing the workforce. Most jobs use computers daily.

If they actually learned to type, that would be useful. Sadly, they do not.
MS and HS is plenty of time for the extremely difficult task of learning how to put google images in slide shows.
They need to learn how to read, take notes, think about a topic, and organize their thoughts, draft, revise, etc. ALL of that is best done with real books and on paper. Using the "programs" is simple and can come much later.

If schools wanted to have one room with laptops where kids went for a special, that would be reasonable. They don't need laptops to learn. The laptops are detrimental to learning.

I am previous poster. They can learn how to read, think, draft, revise and also learn how to use technology. I don’t agree with all day technology usage as some posters are claiming, but technology is and will be a part of our society so education should include tech usage. Everything should be balanced. Schools should not look exactly the same as they did 50 years ago.

DP. Tech usage could be a lot more restricted than it is now and students could still learn those skills. Also, I don’t buy this idea that kids in ES need to learn how to do the things you listed. Many of us grew up without ever doing these things in school (because it don’t exist yet) and had no problem learning how when the time came. It’s not hard to make presentations. Now if schools were using computers to teach actual tech skills like coding, that would be useful.

A ton of people DO have problem learning basic tech when they didn't grow up with it. I would say about 15% of the workforce 45 and up. I encounter it all the time.

Dumb take. Our kids are growing up with it. They don't need to use it all day at school.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid and central off said last year that teachers need to get back to pen and paper. Less google slide assignments and no you tube real alouds, etc. But it is not translating down to the schools and curriculum services hasn’t been able to re write and take out old slide decks from the Covid time.

They need to take the 1:1 laptops out of the ESes and mandate a max amount of time kids can be on the laptops doing work.

I agree with K-3 should have limited tech usage. I do think 4-6 should have daily tech usage.

Kids need to know how to research, utilize programs, type, put together presentations. If kids don’t get these skills in late ES, middle and high school will be much more difficult. I am not saying they should be glued to a computer, but they should be utilized daily. One goal of school is preparing the workforce. Most jobs use computers daily.

If they actually learned to type, that would be useful. Sadly, they do not.
MS and HS is plenty of time for the extremely difficult task of learning how to put google images in slide shows.
They need to learn how to read, take notes, think about a topic, and organize their thoughts, draft, revise, etc. ALL of that is best done with real books and on paper. Using the "programs" is simple and can come much later.

If schools wanted to have one room with laptops where kids went for a special, that would be reasonable. They don't need laptops to learn. The laptops are detrimental to learning.

I am previous poster. They can learn how to read, think, draft, revise and also learn how to use technology. I don’t agree with all day technology usage as some posters are claiming, but technology is and will be a part of our society so education should include tech usage. Everything should be balanced. Schools should not look exactly the same as they did 50 years ago.

DP. Tech usage could be a lot more restricted than it is now and students could still learn those skills. Also, I don’t buy this idea that kids in ES need to learn how to do the things you listed. Many of us grew up without ever doing these things in school (because it don’t exist yet) and had no problem learning how when the time came. It’s not hard to make presentations. Now if schools were using computers to teach actual tech skills like coding, that would be useful.

A ton of people DO have problem learning basic tech when they didn't grow up with it. I would say about 15% of the workforce 45 and up. I encounter it all the time.

+100, thank you - so true. And they’ve been doing it for over 20 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid and central off said last year that teachers need to get back to pen and paper. Less google slide assignments and no you tube real alouds, etc. But it is not translating down to the schools and curriculum services hasn’t been able to re write and take out old slide decks from the Covid time.

They need to take the 1:1 laptops out of the ESes and mandate a max amount of time kids can be on the laptops doing work.

I agree with K-3 should have limited tech usage. I do think 4-6 should have daily tech usage.

Kids need to know how to research, utilize programs, type, put together presentations. If kids don’t get these skills in late ES, middle and high school will be much more difficult. I am not saying they should be glued to a computer, but they should be utilized daily. One goal of school is preparing the workforce. Most jobs use computers daily.

If they actually learned to type, that would be useful. Sadly, they do not.
MS and HS is plenty of time for the extremely difficult task of learning how to put google images in slide shows.
They need to learn how to read, take notes, think about a topic, and organize their thoughts, draft, revise, etc. ALL of that is best done with real books and on paper. Using the "programs" is simple and can come much later.

If schools wanted to have one room with laptops where kids went for a special, that would be reasonable. They don't need laptops to learn. The laptops are detrimental to learning.

I am previous poster. They can learn how to read, think, draft, revise and also learn how to use technology. I don’t agree with all day technology usage as some posters are claiming, but technology is and will be a part of our society so education should include tech usage. Everything should be balanced. Schools should not look exactly the same as they did 50 years ago.

DP. Tech usage could be a lot more restricted than it is now and students could still learn those skills. Also, I don’t buy this idea that kids in ES need to learn how to do the things you listed. Many of us grew up without ever doing these things in school (because it don’t exist yet) and had no problem learning how when the time came. It’s not hard to make presentations. Now if schools were using computers to teach actual tech skills like coding, that would be useful.

A ton of people DO have problem learning basic tech when they didn't grow up with it. I would say about 15% of the workforce 45 and up. I encounter it all the time.

They’ll also need it for college. All work is submitted online unless you are an art or music major.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid and central off said last year that teachers need to get back to pen and paper. Less google slide assignments and no you tube real alouds, etc. But it is not translating down to the schools and curriculum services hasn’t been able to re write and take out old slide decks from the Covid time.

They need to take the 1:1 laptops out of the ESes and mandate a max amount of time kids can be on the laptops doing work.

I agree with K-3 should have limited tech usage. I do think 4-6 should have daily tech usage.

Kids need to know how to research, utilize programs, type, put together presentations. If kids don’t get these skills in late ES, middle and high school will be much more difficult. I am not saying they should be glued to a computer, but they should be utilized daily. One goal of school is preparing the workforce. Most jobs use computers daily.

If they actually learned to type, that would be useful. Sadly, they do not.
MS and HS is plenty of time for the extremely difficult task of learning how to put google images in slide shows.
They need to learn how to read, take notes, think about a topic, and organize their thoughts, draft, revise, etc. ALL of that is best done with real books and on paper. Using the "programs" is simple and can come much later.

If schools wanted to have one room with laptops where kids went for a special, that would be reasonable. They don't need laptops to learn. The laptops are detrimental to learning.

I am previous poster. They can learn how to read, think, draft, revise and also learn how to use technology. I don’t agree with all day technology usage as some posters are claiming, but technology is and will be a part of our society so education should include tech usage. Everything should be balanced. Schools should not look exactly the same as they did 50 years ago.

DP. Tech usage could be a lot more restricted than it is now and students could still learn those skills. Also, I don’t buy this idea that kids in ES need to learn how to do the things you listed. Many of us grew up without ever doing these things in school (because it don’t exist yet) and had no problem learning how when the time came. It’s not hard to make presentations. Now if schools were using computers to teach actual tech skills like coding, that would be useful.

A ton of people DO have problem learning basic tech when they didn't grow up with it. I would say about 15% of the workforce 45 and up. I encounter it all the time.

Dumb take. Our kids are growing up with it. They don't need to use it all day at school.

I didn't say that--just countering the person saying that we all learned just fine. I think children still need to be taught how to use technology productively though--scanning tiktok etc. doesn't translate to all tech.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid and central off said last year that teachers need to get back to pen and paper. Less google slide assignments and no you tube real alouds, etc. But it is not translating down to the schools and curriculum services hasn’t been able to re write and take out old slide decks from the Covid time.

They need to take the 1:1 laptops out of the ESes and mandate a max amount of time kids can be on the laptops doing work.

I agree with K-3 should have limited tech usage. I do think 4-6 should have daily tech usage.

Kids need to know how to research, utilize programs, type, put together presentations. If kids don’t get these skills in late ES, middle and high school will be much more difficult. I am not saying they should be glued to a computer, but they should be utilized daily. One goal of school is preparing the workforce. Most jobs use computers daily.

If they actually learned to type, that would be useful. Sadly, they do not.
MS and HS is plenty of time for the extremely difficult task of learning how to put google images in slide shows.
They need to learn how to read, take notes, think about a topic, and organize their thoughts, draft, revise, etc. ALL of that is best done with real books and on paper. Using the "programs" is simple and can come much later.

If schools wanted to have one room with laptops where kids went for a special, that would be reasonable. They don't need laptops to learn. The laptops are detrimental to learning.

I am previous poster. They can learn how to read, think, draft, revise and also learn how to use technology. I don’t agree with all day technology usage as some posters are claiming, but technology is and will be a part of our society so education should include tech usage. Everything should be balanced. Schools should not look exactly the same as they did 50 years ago.

DP. Tech usage could be a lot more restricted than it is now and students could still learn those skills. Also, I don’t buy this idea that kids in ES need to learn how to do the things you listed. Many of us grew up without ever doing these things in school (because it don’t exist yet) and had no problem learning how when the time came. It’s not hard to make presentations. Now if schools were using computers to teach actual tech skills like coding, that would be useful.

A ton of people DO have problem learning basic tech when they didn't grow up with it. I would say about 15% of the workforce 45 and up. I encounter it all the time.

Dumb take. Our kids are growing up with it. They don't need to use it all day at school.

I didn't say that--just countering the person saying that we all learned just fine. I think children still need to be taught how to use technology productively though--scanning tiktok etc. doesn't translate to all tech.

And no one is saying they need to be using it all day--the posters who are fine with it are talking about 30 min a day in ES.