Fairfax county middle school ranks dropped

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

Test scores = “MAGA trolls” ??

Please explain.

Valuing literacy, math achievement, scientific inquiry, critical thinking, consistent discipline, merit focus and parental involvement is the new maga according to dcum dem trolls now.

Didn't you notice?

This ridiculous reply encapsulates everything about the current right-wing opposition to the board.

The board’s interest in equity is in no way in opposition to any of those topics.

You know what my daughter deals with on a daily basis? Math, reading, writing, social studies (mostly history). She gets pulled into another class for advanced math. It is all academics.

You know what she doesn’t experience? Any of the insane crap that right-wingers imagine is going on in schools.

Tell me she goes to Langley or McLean without telling me. The affluent have different issues, Nancy!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

DP here. Yes. When people frequently post complaints about FCPS that boil down to “equity”, it’s usually trolling.

NP. Agree.

Parents are lit screaming for change and you boil it down to "darn trolls." What would it take for you to believe that some parents and teachers aren't happy? Bigger question - why is this hard to believe?

NP.

It's not hard to believe that parents and teachers are not happy. What is difficult, is to believe that the explosion in threads about declining quality of FCPS as we near elections, and the reason for it being attributed to woke SB, equity, DEI, CRT, trans athletes, and other left wing faults, is not politically motivated.

What I would like is this. I would like each SB candidate to address the actual issue that teachers and parents are unhappy, and that we're failing our students. What policies would they implement, to stop the bleeding of teachers? What are they planning to do to close achievement gap? What are they planning to do, to bring scores back up? What policies would be implemented, to hold students accountable for their behavior, without penalizing POC for their skin color? When we do hear about schools in Republican run states, it's always something negative, about banning books, and other culture war issues. Banning books, or burning them, or keeping trans kids from using bathrooms of the gender they identify with, is not going to make teachers happy, it's not going to bring test scores up, it's not going to get kids with less support to achieve.

So, what IS the plan if we change the composition of the SB?

The problem is that no one actually talks about what they will actually do. It's always about how they're not like <insert bad guy here>. It is not helpful to the Republican cause that by and large, they cannot point to red states, or cities, or school districts with a large and diverse population like ours, where they have been successful in addressing problems.

I think the answer is pretty clear.

Just stop.

Stop changing everything to suit a small number of student who fail no matter what.

I don’t want a new SB to solve anything. I just want them to stop doing what the current SB has been doing.

Give my kids novels and homework in middle and elementary. Stop E3 math from eventually preventing 7th grade Algebra. Punish violent behavior and drug use with stronger punishments.

There is no need for new solutions as we already did all these things 5-7 years ago. These solutions aren’t hard but they do require accepting that certain efforts can no longer be viable. And equity is a big part of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

DP here. Yes. When people frequently post complaints about FCPS that boil down to “equity”, it’s usually trolling.

NP. Agree.

Parents are lit screaming for change and you boil it down to "darn trolls." What would it take for you to believe that some parents and teachers aren't happy? Bigger question - why is this hard to believe?

It’s hard to believe because I don’t personally know any FCPS parents IRL screaming for change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

DP here. Yes. When people frequently post complaints about FCPS that boil down to “equity”, it’s usually trolling.

NP. Agree.

Parents are lit screaming for change and you boil it down to "darn trolls." What would it take for you to believe that some parents and teachers aren't happy? Bigger question - why is this hard to believe?

It’s hard to believe because I don’t personally know any FCPS parents IRL screaming for change.

If teachers were given twice as much planning time - would your IRL parents complain or be happy? If the writing instruction became much better, would your IRL parents complain or be happy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

DP here. Yes. When people frequently post complaints about FCPS that boil down to “equity”, it’s usually trolling.

NP. Agree.

Parents are lit screaming for change and you boil it down to "darn trolls." What would it take for you to believe that some parents and teachers aren't happy? Bigger question - why is this hard to believe?

It’s hard to believe because I don’t personally know any FCPS parents IRL screaming for change.

FCPS is HUGE with large pockets of poverty. Can people put their privilege aside long enough to acknowledge the schools in low socioeconomic districts are the ones hurting the most.

If your kid isn’t in one of these schools, you might not feel the equity issues in any meaningful way. Life IS different when classmates aren’t yelling curse words and throwing chairs.

The parents who keep losing here are the ones who don’t make much and are doing everything they can so their kids have a better life.

How bitter it must be to have your concerns met by well meaning progressives who have nothing to offer other than “Wudda you mean? But my affluent FCPS kid’s fine, so that means everyone’s okay.”

Think about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

This forum seems to have become increasingly dominated by them over the past year or so.

Yet the utter domination by LWNJs seems not to bother you at all. I wonder why...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No surprise.

Last month Youngkin declared 1/2 of 3-8 graders failed or may fail Reading SOL and 2/3 of 3-8 graders failed or may fail Math SOL.

Youngkin’s Solution? Get volunteer parents to teach Reaching and Math.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/teaching-learning-assessment/all-in-tutoring


Will Youngkin ask the passing students to teach the failing students next?

Do you have a better solution? They can’t find enough teachers to do it.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

Because it’s so formulaic. Listen-I think most people are not thrilled with FCPS right now. But a lot of it sounds like talking points from certain political groups. And it goes both ways-if I try to call out something that seems made up, I’m told I’m a LWNJ. Just in the past couple of days there have been threads/discussions within threads about: An OP terrified at the prospect of public school bc of “wokeness” and someone immediately after recommending they run to private schools. Whether elsewhere in VA has superior education/how to “flee” FCPS. If white people are being made to feel guilty in social studies. If LGBTAQ is being pushed on kids. I agree with a lot of the qualms regarding FCPS (weak LA/writing, not holding kids accountable, wonky grading). But it is not a secret or a conspiracy theory that right wing groups have capitalized on parents fears re: state of education and discontent re: Covid and ran with it. But I don’t think for a minute they give a damn. I just wish the Democrats would listen to parents and teachers concerns re: academics and behaviors.

DP. You "wish" Democrats would listen? Have they listened yet in the decade or so in which they have had a monopoly on the SB? Let me guess, you plan to continue voting for Democrats - the very people who do NOT listen to parents and teachers and are NOT putting academic concerns first.

And you wonder why people are upset?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

Test scores = “MAGA trolls” ??

Please explain.

Valuing literacy, math achievement, scientific inquiry, critical thinking, consistent discipline, merit focus and parental involvement is the new maga according to dcum dem trolls now.

Didn't you notice?

Exactly. Can't have that!!
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

DP here. Yes. When people frequently post complaints about FCPS that boil down to “equity”, it’s usually trolling.

NP. Agree.

Parents are lit screaming for change and you boil it down to "darn trolls." What would it take for you to believe that some parents and teachers aren't happy? Bigger question - why is this hard to believe?

NP.

It's not hard to believe that parents and teachers are not happy. What is difficult, is to believe that the explosion in threads about declining quality of FCPS as we near elections, and the reason for it being attributed to woke SB, equity, DEI, CRT, trans athletes, and other left wing faults, is not politically motivated.

What I would like is this. I would like each SB candidate to address the actual issue that teachers and parents are unhappy, and that we're failing our students. What policies would they implement, to stop the bleeding of teachers? What are they planning to do to close achievement gap? What are they planning to do, to bring scores back up? What policies would be implemented, to hold students accountable for their behavior, without penalizing POC for their skin color? When we do hear about schools in Republican run states, it's always something negative, about banning books, and other culture war issues. Banning books, or burning them, or keeping trans kids from using bathrooms of the gender they identify with, is not going to make teachers happy, it's not going to bring test scores up, it's not going to get kids with less support to achieve.

So, what IS the plan if we change the composition of the SB?

The problem is that no one actually talks about what they will actually do. It's always about how they're not like <insert bad guy here>. It is not helpful to the Republican cause that by and large, they cannot point to red states, or cities, or school districts with a large and diverse population like ours, where they have been successful in addressing problems.

I think the answer is pretty clear.

Just stop.

Stop changing everything to suit a small number of student who fail no matter what.

I don’t want a new SB to solve anything. I just want them to stop doing what the current SB has been doing.

Give my kids novels and homework in middle and elementary. Stop E3 math from eventually preventing 7th grade Algebra. Punish violent behavior and drug use with stronger punishments.

There is no need for new solutions as we already did all these things 5-7 years ago. These solutions aren’t hard but they do require accepting that certain efforts can no longer be viable. And equity is a big part of that.

+ a million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

People who notice changes in FCPS (or lack of changes) = trolls?

Are you sure about that?

DP here. Yes. When people frequently post complaints about FCPS that boil down to “equity”, it’s usually trolling.

NP. Agree.

Parents are lit screaming for change and you boil it down to "darn trolls." What would it take for you to believe that some parents and teachers aren't happy? Bigger question - why is this hard to believe?

It’s hard to believe because I don’t personally know any FCPS parents IRL screaming for change.

FCPS is HUGE with large pockets of poverty. Can people put their privilege aside long enough to acknowledge the schools in low socioeconomic districts are the ones hurting the most.

If your kid isn’t in one of these schools, you might not feel the equity issues in any meaningful way. Life IS different when classmates aren’t yelling curse words and throwing chairs.

The parents who keep losing here are the ones who don’t make much and are doing everything they can so their kids have a better life.

How bitter it must be to have your concerns met by well meaning progressives who have nothing to offer other than “Wudda you mean? But my affluent FCPS kid’s fine, so that means everyone’s okay.”

Think about it.

So you expect schools to solve all of society’s ills? The schools there have the same curriculum and programs. They have the same money from FCPS and more from the feds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

This forum seems to have become increasingly dominated by them over the past year or so.

Yet the utter domination by LWNJs seems not to bother you at all. I wonder why...

Go back to Fairfax Underground.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

Test scores = “MAGA trolls” ??

Please explain.

Valuing literacy, math achievement, scientific inquiry, critical thinking, consistent discipline, merit focus and parental involvement is the new maga according to dcum dem trolls now.

Didn't you notice?

This ridiculous reply encapsulates everything about the current right-wing opposition to the board.

The board’s interest in equity is in no way in opposition to any of those topics.

You know what my daughter deals with on a daily basis? Math, reading, writing, social studies (mostly history). She gets pulled into another class for advanced math. It is all academics.

You know what she doesn’t experience? Any of the insane crap that right-wingers imagine is going on in schools.

Well said.

I'm convinced that they don't have kids at all. Certainly not in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

Test scores = “MAGA trolls” ??

Please explain.

Valuing literacy, math achievement, scientific inquiry, critical thinking, consistent discipline, merit focus and parental involvement is the new maga according to dcum dem trolls now.

Didn't you notice?

This ridiculous reply encapsulates everything about the current right-wing opposition to the board.

The board’s interest in equity is in no way in opposition to any of those topics.

You know what my daughter deals with on a daily basis? Math, reading, writing, social studies (mostly history). She gets pulled into another class for advanced math. It is all academics.

You know what she doesn’t experience? Any of the insane crap that right-wingers imagine is going on in schools.

+1, as a teacher, I don’t see any of the things in the school system that the Republicans are complaining about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG. I'm so sick of MAGA trolls.

Too bad the local Dems have given trolls and serious critics alike so much material.