W&M in WSJ Rankings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think this ranking will have much barring on US News. For instance I don't expect Johns Hopkins to fall down the rankings because it's ranked 99 on WSJ.

It won't bear on USNWR - their methodology is much different and better, which is why it is the gold standard. Why WOULD you use a methodology for colleges that just looks at ROI? If so, why don't we all go to trade schools that turn out high paying trades? But then we wouldn't have nurses, teachers, mental healthprofessionals, historians, professors, sociologists, archaeologists . . . and all the other interesting and varied things that our children want to do and that our society needs. The WSJ list makes no sense but it does sell papers and makes people click on it - which is all that the rankings are about. IN other words, anyone discussing it here is a sucker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The WSJ rankings are really a joke. I wouldn’t use it as anything. WM is a great school, period.

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I think WSJ just tried TOO hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WSJ rankings are really a joke. I wouldn’t use it as anything. WM is a great school, period.

+1

I think WSJ just tried TOO hard.

And failed.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't put to much stock in rankings done by the Fox News crew.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M is really 13th grade for smart Virginia kids.

My daughter goes to a public university in another state and 75 percent of school is out of state and international.

W&M is not a real college experience given so many Virginia residents

W&M actually has a higher percentage of OOS students (40%) than any other Virginia state college/university. So I guess you're one of those people who thinks no Virginia state school provides a "real college experience" for VA residents. And by the way, what public university in the U.S. has 75% of its students from OOS/abroad?

Delaware

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M is really 13th grade for smart Virginia kids.

My daughter goes to a public university in another state and 75 percent of school is out of state and international.

W&M is not a real college experience given so many Virginia residents

W&M actually has a higher percentage of OOS students (40%) than any other Virginia state college/university. So I guess you're one of those people who thinks no Virginia state school provides a "real college experience" for VA residents. And by the way, what public university in the U.S. has 75% of its students from OOS/abroad?

Delaware

WVU doesn't have 75% out of state, but they are the majority: 54% OOS, 46% in state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Being ranked 212 out of 400 seems unjustified given the venerable history of the school and the emphasis on undergraduate teaching. I don't get it.

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VIRGINIA SCHOOLS in the WSJ 2024 RANKINGS:
44) W&L
76) VA tech
84) UVA
95) GMU
152) JMU
212) W&M
243) ODU
318) VCU
326) CNU
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I wouldn't worry about it. This particular ranking is a joke and carries little weight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least they finally got UVA right.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M is really 13th grade for smart Virginia kids.

My daughter goes to a public university in another state and 75 percent of school is out of state and international.

W&M is not a real college experience given so many Virginia residents

W&M actually has a higher percentage of OOS students (40%) than any other Virginia state college/university. So I guess you're one of those people who thinks no Virginia state school provides a "real college experience" for VA residents. And by the way, what public university in the U.S. has 75% of its students from OOS/abroad?

Delaware

Incorrect. Approximately 61% of undergrads at Delaware are from outside the state (about 68% of grad students).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous[b wrote:]Virginia public schools were punished for the very high tuition rates, even after aid, charged to in-state and out-of-state students in the WSJ analysis.[/b] I think it’s a fair critique of schools that students may take on heavy debt loads for a degree that doesn’t pay off. Or if the student drops out of college, the debt is a risk for the family.

False. WSJ looked at ROI. Obviously a slac type school as opposed to a tech school will have a lower ROI

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:W&M has a strong alumni network and high graduation rates. For in-state residents, the tuition is a fantastic deal. They get a private school education for a public school price.

WSJ rankings seem to be the least useful when comparing to US News or Niche.

folderol

Yeah, tuition is highest in the entire country for a public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M has a strong alumni network and high graduation rates. For in-state residents, the tuition is a fantastic deal. They get a private school education for a public school price.

WSJ rankings seem to be the least useful when comparing to US News or Niche.

folderol

Yeah, tuition is highest in the entire country for a public.

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WM is not a deal at all in terms of in state tuition. There are out of state schools like Purdue and UF that are less expensive than WM in-state. WM has forgotten is a public university.

[Anonymous]

W&M is a great school. No one that matters would not agree with this assessment. I wanted my kid to apply but they didn't have the program she wanted to pursue. I visited the campus about 5 years ago and found it charming along with Williamsburg. It had the feel of a small NE college but just down south.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M has a strong alumni network and high graduation rates. For in-state residents, the tuition is a fantastic deal. They get a private school education for a public school price.

WSJ rankings seem to be the least useful when comparing to US News or Niche.

folderol

Yeah, tuition is highest in the entire country for a public.

+1

WM is not a deal at all in terms of in state tuition. There are out of state schools like Purdue and UF that are less expensive than WM in-state. WM has forgotten is a public university.

W&M is indeed the most expensive public university in the country for in-state students. Purdue and UF are good deals for OOS students, but UF for OOS is still a few hundred dollars more than W&M in-state for total direct costs (and Purdue a few hundred dollars less).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M has a strong alumni network and high graduation rates. For in-state residents, the tuition is a fantastic deal. They get a private school education for a public school price.

WSJ rankings seem to be the least useful when comparing to US News or Niche.

folderol

Yeah, tuition is highest in the entire country for a public.

But it’s still only $23,812 for next year. Tack on room and board and it’s $40k. Considering my less prestigious but same-sized Slac is now $92k, I still think W&M is a great deal. W&M fared poorly on the WSJ ranking simply because WSJ focused on ROI, which most SLACs won’t score well on compared to high tech schools