DP. As if the RW media doesn't continuously mock or insult Jill Biden--an actual First Lady. And don't get me started on how Michelle Obama was treated. Give me a break. Casey DeSantis is a full partner with her husband--she accompanies him to his campaign events and speaks on his behalf and she is his closest advisor, which includes directing his staff on what to do. She also endorses his policy views completely. As such, she deserves to be criticized. |
She is unapologetically pro life. What has she said, specifically, in her words, that makes you say she had no respect for people with pro-choice views? |
As HRC deserved to be criticized when her husband was president, right? |
She is open to criticism. On policy. But, the name calling that this panel so gleefully engaged in was over the top. SHE is not running. She is supporting her husband. And, it's rich that David Jolly has the audacity to critique her. He lost to Charlie Crist. And, Charlie Crist lost miserably to DeSantis. So, one could say David Jolly is a huge loser. If there is a "karen" in this equation - it would be David Jolly or the woman who has several other "names" for Casey DeSantis. |
Rights I would lose? - the right to an abortion. So I am happy voting against Ron DeSantis. I have no opinion on Casey DeSantis except that she must be a but of an idiot to be married to Ron. |
Do you live in Florida? |
DP: An ectopic pregnancy can go to about 16 weeks in some cases. You people seem to believe— incorrectly— that an embryo or fetus much younger than that has a heartbeat, and that a blood clot is a person. I guess you’re not big on either consistency or science. |
I'm the PP. Yes, correct. HRC is a similar example of a very involved, as-ambitious-as-her-husband candidate's wife--just on the left. As a woman, I'm conflicted about these strong wives of candidates. On the one hand, I want women to succeed in politics and wish there were as many female as male politicians; on the other hand, I'm not comfortable with women who try to access power through their husbands. I wish they could run on their own and win on their own merits. But the bottom line is that, as a nation, we don't seem comfortable electing women presidents. I expect that Casey will get a lot of flack like Hillary did, except Casey is probably better at managing her messaging and playing the feminine, supportive role when required. |
No. But I thought the question was the subjunctive “what would you lose”. In the event that DeSantis becomes president, he, with the support of his wife, would push for a national abortion ban which would affect me negatively. I have not yet lost anything due to DeSantis’ policies except for my time since I have to listen to my mother (who does live in Florida) getting progressively more pissed at “that idiot governor”. |
Yes, I do! And I don't want what Karen and Adolf have done here to spread across the country. It's bad enough in this one state. |
You can still get your precious abortion. You just need to plan. There is no "ban" in FL. |
![]() One of the milestones of fetal development is when the heart begins to beat. In most cases, an ultrasound can detect the beating of cardiac tissue around weeks five to six, and the heart will form within the next few weeks. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/when-does-a-fetus-have-a-heartbeat |
There’s a ban after six weeks. Hardly anyone even knows they’re pregnant before six weeks. Six weeks is since your last period, pregnancy typically occurs two weeks later and can be more, and pregnancy tests don't reliably work until week five for most women. If your test is positive, you have literally only a few days to get those appointments; you need two of them at least 24 hours apart. Can anyone get two doctor’s appointments on short notice like that? |
Just stay out of it Casey and Ron. You make your own decisions about your body and your fertility and your pregnancies and leave everyone else alone to do the same. Our reproductive decisions are none of your business. |
PP here. Actually, I agree with all you wrote. |