Algebra 1 - 7th grade

Anonymous
Math 7H was a breeze for my kid who had a 79 percentile on IOWA but pass advanced on SOL.
jef3r
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Anonymous wrote:OP here. My DS asked his math teacher today about Math 7HN. He told him that it would be "the easiest class that you take" and to be prepared to review a lot of material. Teacher said some material would be new but for the most part DS would coast. That's not reassuring.

I wish FCPS had a better solution for this.


The new solution is Algebra I in 8th grade for all.

I don't think that's where FCPS is heading. It seems the focus is only within certain groups.
1) FCPS is trying to boost the share of underrepresented students taking Algebra 1 in MS, but that is different from boosting the share of all kids taking MS accelerated math.
2) FCPS is piloting E3 which may result in fewer kids qualifying for 7th grade Algebra 1 (meaning more of those kids might take Algebra 1 in 8th).
However, there have been no signs that FCPS is making a broad effort to move all kids from 9th grade Algebra 1 to 8th grade Algebra 1.

FCPS has been very consistent amongst NoVa schools districts in having a pre-announced, unchanging threshold for MS Algebra qualification and as a result, has had a steadier share of accelerated MS math students over time. Even when it was nationally popular to put all kids in Algebra 1 in MS, FCPS's MS accelerated math share never breached 70%.


It's absolutely where they are going. I work for the county. It is a thing and it is coming. More and more schools are being added each year.
Anonymous
jef3r wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. My DS asked his math teacher today about Math 7HN. He told him that it would be "the easiest class that you take" and to be prepared to review a lot of material. Teacher said some material would be new but for the most part DS would coast. That's not reassuring.

I wish FCPS had a better solution for this.


The new solution is Algebra I in 8th grade for all.

I don't think that's where FCPS is heading. It seems the focus is only within certain groups.
1) FCPS is trying to boost the share of underrepresented students taking Algebra 1 in MS, but that is different from boosting the share of all kids taking MS accelerated math.
2) FCPS is piloting E3 which may result in fewer kids qualifying for 7th grade Algebra 1 (meaning more of those kids might take Algebra 1 in 8th).
However, there have been no signs that FCPS is making a broad effort to move all kids from 9th grade Algebra 1 to 8th grade Algebra 1.

FCPS has been very consistent amongst NoVa schools districts in having a pre-announced, unchanging threshold for MS Algebra qualification and as a result, has had a steadier share of accelerated MS math students over time. Even when it was nationally popular to put all kids in Algebra 1 in MS, FCPS's MS accelerated math share never breached 70%.


It's absolutely where they are going. I work for the county. It is a thing and it is coming. More and more schools are being added each year.


What is coming? Moving more kids from 9th grade algebra to 8th grade algebra, or moving kids from 7th grade algebra to 8th grade algebra?
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Anonymous wrote:Any chance a student who studies over the summer could take a test in the fall and transfer from 7H to Algebra?


You can just call the guidance counselor and say you want your kid in Alg 1 even though they didn’t qualify. I already said upthread that my friend did it.


I would ask to do this as well. If his current (or most recent) 6th teacher can recommend him for it and his test scores with close, I think a reasonable counselor would ok this. You can ask to have it be probationary for the first 6 weeks with the understanding if the Alg I teacher does not feel his is ready, he can be placed back into the math level below.


This is not a thing. I asked to have my DD moved into Algebra at 7th and the hardline response was that if DD not meet the criteria (IOWA & SOL qualifying scores from AAP) there was NO chance.


It is a thing. Go fight harder. I know of kids who have done it. I don’t know the kid, but a teacher has told me that they recommend and kid did great in Al1hnrs.
Anonymous
Can I still request middle school to place my child in algebra 1? He didn’t get through Iowa but passes advance in sol ?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jef3r wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. My DS asked his math teacher today about Math 7HN. He told him that it would be "the easiest class that you take" and to be prepared to review a lot of material. Teacher said some material would be new but for the most part DS would coast. That's not reassuring.

I wish FCPS had a better solution for this.


The new solution is Algebra I in 8th grade for all.

I don't think that's where FCPS is heading. It seems the focus is only within certain groups.
1) FCPS is trying to boost the share of underrepresented students taking Algebra 1 in MS, but that is different from boosting the share of all kids taking MS accelerated math.
2) FCPS is piloting E3 which may result in fewer kids qualifying for 7th grade Algebra 1 (meaning more of those kids might take Algebra 1 in 8th).
However, there have been no signs that FCPS is making a broad effort to move all kids from 9th grade Algebra 1 to 8th grade Algebra 1.

FCPS has been very consistent amongst NoVa schools districts in having a pre-announced, unchanging threshold for MS Algebra qualification and as a result, has had a steadier share of accelerated MS math students over time. Even when it was nationally popular to put all kids in Algebra 1 in MS, FCPS's MS accelerated math share never breached 70%.


It's absolutely where they are going. I work for the county. It is a thing and it is coming. More and more schools are being added each year.


What is coming? Moving more kids from 9th grade algebra to 8th grade algebra, or moving kids from 7th grade algebra to 8th grade algebra?


DP. Algebra for all in 8th grade is coming.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can I still request middle school to place my child in algebra 1? He didn’t get through Iowa but passes advance in sol ?


You can certainly try. If the IAAT was a bit low but not egregiously so, they may get placed in Algebra 1.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jef3r wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. My DS asked his math teacher today about Math 7HN. He told him that it would be "the easiest class that you take" and to be prepared to review a lot of material. Teacher said some material would be new but for the most part DS would coast. That's not reassuring.

I wish FCPS had a better solution for this.


The new solution is Algebra I in 8th grade for all.

I don't think that's where FCPS is heading. It seems the focus is only within certain groups.
1) FCPS is trying to boost the share of underrepresented students taking Algebra 1 in MS, but that is different from boosting the share of all kids taking MS accelerated math.
2) FCPS is piloting E3 which may result in fewer kids qualifying for 7th grade Algebra 1 (meaning more of those kids might take Algebra 1 in 8th).
However, there have been no signs that FCPS is making a broad effort to move all kids from 9th grade Algebra 1 to 8th grade Algebra 1.

FCPS has been very consistent amongst NoVa schools districts in having a pre-announced, unchanging threshold for MS Algebra qualification and as a result, has had a steadier share of accelerated MS math students over time. Even when it was nationally popular to put all kids in Algebra 1 in MS, FCPS's MS accelerated math share never breached 70%.


It's absolutely where they are going. I work for the county. It is a thing and it is coming. More and more schools are being added each year.


What is coming? Moving more kids from 9th grade algebra to 8th grade algebra, or moving kids from 7th grade algebra to 8th grade algebra?


DP. Algebra for all in 8th grade is coming.


Majority of 8th graders aren’t passing pre algebra. Who is this supposed to benefit?
Anonymous
Thanks what is the best process to appeal. Requesting middle school principal or elementary math teacher ?
TIA
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Thanks what is the best process to appeal. Requesting middle school principal or elementary math teacher ?
TIA


Your elementary math teacher is not involved in appeals. Contact the middle school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jef3r wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. My DS asked his math teacher today about Math 7HN. He told him that it would be "the easiest class that you take" and to be prepared to review a lot of material. Teacher said some material would be new but for the most part DS would coast. That's not reassuring.

I wish FCPS had a better solution for this.


The new solution is Algebra I in 8th grade for all.

I don't think that's where FCPS is heading. It seems the focus is only within certain groups.
1) FCPS is trying to boost the share of underrepresented students taking Algebra 1 in MS, but that is different from boosting the share of all kids taking MS accelerated math.
2) FCPS is piloting E3 which may result in fewer kids qualifying for 7th grade Algebra 1 (meaning more of those kids might take Algebra 1 in 8th).
However, there have been no signs that FCPS is making a broad effort to move all kids from 9th grade Algebra 1 to 8th grade Algebra 1.

FCPS has been very consistent amongst NoVa schools districts in having a pre-announced, unchanging threshold for MS Algebra qualification and as a result, has had a steadier share of accelerated MS math students over time. Even when it was nationally popular to put all kids in Algebra 1 in MS, FCPS's MS accelerated math share never breached 70%.


It's absolutely where they are going. I work for the county. It is a thing and it is coming. More and more schools are being added each year.


What is coming? Moving more kids from 9th grade algebra to 8th grade algebra, or moving kids from 7th grade algebra to 8th grade algebra?


DP. Algebra for all in 8th grade is coming.

Just to clarify. Everyone takes it in 8th grade or everyone takes it by 8th grade?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jef3r wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. My DS asked his math teacher today about Math 7HN. He told him that it would be "the easiest class that you take" and to be prepared to review a lot of material. Teacher said some material would be new but for the most part DS would coast. That's not reassuring.

I wish FCPS had a better solution for this.


The new solution is Algebra I in 8th grade for all.

I don't think that's where FCPS is heading. It seems the focus is only within certain groups.
1) FCPS is trying to boost the share of underrepresented students taking Algebra 1 in MS, but that is different from boosting the share of all kids taking MS accelerated math.
2) FCPS is piloting E3 which may result in fewer kids qualifying for 7th grade Algebra 1 (meaning more of those kids might take Algebra 1 in 8th).
However, there have been no signs that FCPS is making a broad effort to move all kids from 9th grade Algebra 1 to 8th grade Algebra 1.

FCPS has been very consistent amongst NoVa schools districts in having a pre-announced, unchanging threshold for MS Algebra qualification and as a result, has had a steadier share of accelerated MS math students over time. Even when it was nationally popular to put all kids in Algebra 1 in MS, FCPS's MS accelerated math share never breached 70%.


It's absolutely where they are going. I work for the county. It is a thing and it is coming. More and more schools are being added each year.


What is coming? Moving more kids from 9th grade algebra to 8th grade algebra, or moving kids from 7th grade algebra to 8th grade algebra?


DP. Algebra for all in 8th grade is coming.


Majority of 8th graders aren’t passing pre algebra. Who is this supposed to benefit?


It's supposed to benefit the schools. They can proudly proclaim every student has taken Algebra I by the time they enter high school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jef3r wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. My DS asked his math teacher today about Math 7HN. He told him that it would be "the easiest class that you take" and to be prepared to review a lot of material. Teacher said some material would be new but for the most part DS would coast. That's not reassuring.

I wish FCPS had a better solution for this.


The new solution is Algebra I in 8th grade for all.

I don't think that's where FCPS is heading. It seems the focus is only within certain groups.
1) FCPS is trying to boost the share of underrepresented students taking Algebra 1 in MS, but that is different from boosting the share of all kids taking MS accelerated math.
2) FCPS is piloting E3 which may result in fewer kids qualifying for 7th grade Algebra 1 (meaning more of those kids might take Algebra 1 in 8th).
However, there have been no signs that FCPS is making a broad effort to move all kids from 9th grade Algebra 1 to 8th grade Algebra 1.

FCPS has been very consistent amongst NoVa schools districts in having a pre-announced, unchanging threshold for MS Algebra qualification and as a result, has had a steadier share of accelerated MS math students over time. Even when it was nationally popular to put all kids in Algebra 1 in MS, FCPS's MS accelerated math share never breached 70%.


It's absolutely where they are going. I work for the county. It is a thing and it is coming. More and more schools are being added each year.


What is coming? Moving more kids from 9th grade algebra to 8th grade algebra, or moving kids from 7th grade algebra to 8th grade algebra?


DP. Algebra for all in 8th grade is coming.

Just to clarify. Everyone takes it in 8th grade or everyone takes it by 8th grade?
In 8th grade.
Anonymous
None of this gaming the system anymore

Top track will be Algebra in 8th grade very soon
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:None of this gaming the system anymore

Top track will be Algebra in 8th grade very soon


And no band, orchestra, or foreign language either. And definitely no sports, and PE only allows 13minute miles in 5th grade, with max 1 minute decrease per year afterward. No one learns anything unless everyone learns.
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