is $30 per hr a new reality?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much are you nanny families making? We have a household income of $250k and I felt the squeeze of a nanny (we paid $60k / year gross to her).

Also side note I feel that the counter argument “well, then, you should just raise your own stupid kids” gross. Is it just me? Like it feels extortion-y or made to invoke the inherent feelings of guilt that many working mothers have. There should be a wide variety of options for working parents who have various HHIs. “Raising your own kids” is a perfectly valid choice, but this is 2023 not 1950…

There is a wide variety of options. Apparently you just feel entitled to the one that you want.

And your "this is 2023 not 1950" is more than "kind of gross."

+1. I wouldn’t have a nanny if I had your HHI.

Totally valid. What would you have done? Daycare? Do you believe daycare is an acceptable choice care choice?

[Anonymous]

Eh I think 23 to 25 for two kids is more common, we found it hard to get our old nanny someone who would pay her 25 though she’s obviously worth it. Most people wanted to pay 20 to 22 and it seems like they all found someone. Fortunately we found someone who would pay 25 eventually but even well off families in Vienna, McLean etc only wanted to pay 22 or so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much are you nanny families making? We have a household income of $250k and I felt the squeeze of a nanny (we paid $60k / year gross to her).

Also side note I feel that the counter argument “well, then, you should just raise your own stupid kids” gross. Is it just me? Like it feels extortion-y or made to invoke the inherent feelings of guilt that many working mothers have. There should be a wide variety of options for working parents who have various HHIs. “Raising your own kids” is a perfectly valid choice, but this is 2023 not 1950…

There is a wide variety of options. Apparently you just feel entitled to the one that you want.

And your "this is 2023 not 1950" is more than "kind of gross."

+1. I wouldn’t have a nanny if I had your HHI.

Totally valid. What would you have done? Daycare? Do you believe daycare is an acceptable choice care choice?

Yes? I was in daycare myself as a child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much are you nanny families making? We have a household income of $250k and I felt the squeeze of a nanny (we paid $60k / year gross to her).

Also side note I feel that the counter argument “well, then, you should just raise your own stupid kids” gross. Is it just me? Like it feels extortion-y or made to invoke the inherent feelings of guilt that many working mothers have. There should be a wide variety of options for working parents who have various HHIs. “Raising your own kids” is a perfectly valid choice, but this is 2023 not 1950…

There is a wide variety of options. Apparently you just feel entitled to the one that you want.

And your "this is 2023 not 1950" is more than "kind of gross."

+1. I wouldn’t have a nanny if I had your HHI.

Totally valid. What would you have done? Daycare? Do you believe daycare is an acceptable choice care choice?

Uh, yeah. I was in multiple different daycares and did just fine. In fact, I looked forward to going everyday because the other kids were my friends.

I stayed with my grandmother -- a retired teacher -- one summer and I hated every minute of it. It was so lonely!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much are you nanny families making? We have a household income of $250k and I felt the squeeze of a nanny (we paid $60k / year gross to her).

Also side note I feel that the counter argument “well, then, you should just raise your own stupid kids” gross. Is it just me? Like it feels extortion-y or made to invoke the inherent feelings of guilt that many working mothers have. There should be a wide variety of options for working parents who have various HHIs. “Raising your own kids” is a perfectly valid choice, but this is 2023 not 1950…

There is a wide variety of options. Apparently you just feel entitled to the one that you want.

And your "this is 2023 not 1950" is more than "kind of gross."

“Wide variety of options”… eh. Where I live, people have to get on daycare waitlists at 8 weeks into their pregnancy to ensure a spot at 3 months post partum. People are routinely applying to daycares while trying to conceive. Vouchers for daycares have years long waitlists. People figure it out, but even on these forums, I’ve seen posts from nannies basically saying if you don’t have a nanny, you are screwing your kid’s life. So what is it? Are daycares ok for the children of nurses, teachers, public servants? Who are the nannies for? Big law partners and plastic surgeons?

Wife of a biglaw partner here with a BIL who is a surgeon (spouses are also employed making good money). We like daycare better, to be honest. We have done a nanny solely because we didn’t get into daycare for an infant for the reasons you described above.

The thing is, for those with big jobs, the nanny is going to be a pain. Especially a nanny with a family, life, or hobbies. We don’t have time for crap like a nanny’s sick kid or her feeling less than/wanting us to care about her. I need an employee who leaves her shit at the door, works nonstop while on shift, keeps the kids and their areas clean, and maybe even does some activities. For that, I’d pay $50/hour - but no one I’ve met is worth more than $25. For 2 kids.

[Anonymous]

PP, in other words, you need a robot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, in other words, you need a robot.

No, I need someone who is of similar efficiency to myself if I’m paying unskilled labor a premium. Otherwise you’re all providing a service worth less than $25/hour. Especially because you’re in my house all day, which is super annoying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, in other words, you need a robot.

No, I need someone who is of similar efficiency to myself if I’m paying unskilled labor a premium. Otherwise you’re all providing a service worth less than $25/hour. Especially because you’re in my house all day, which is super annoying.

Yep. You need a robot.

[Anonymous]

I don't trust anybody who would rather be a lawyer all day than spend that time with their precious infant so it's hard to take many of you seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much are you nanny families making? We have a household income of $250k and I felt the squeeze of a nanny (we paid $60k / year gross to her).

Also side note I feel that the counter argument “well, then, you should just raise your own stupid kids” gross. Is it just me? Like it feels extortion-y or made to invoke the inherent feelings of guilt that many working mothers have. There should be a wide variety of options for working parents who have various HHIs. “Raising your own kids” is a perfectly valid choice, but this is 2023 not 1950…

There is a wide variety of options. Apparently you just feel entitled to the one that you want.

And your "this is 2023 not 1950" is more than "kind of gross."

“Wide variety of options”… eh. Where I live, people have to get on daycare waitlists at 8 weeks into their pregnancy to ensure a spot at 3 months post partum. People are routinely applying to daycares while trying to conceive. Vouchers for daycares have years long waitlists. People figure it out, but even on these forums, I’ve seen posts from nannies basically saying if you don’t have a nanny, you are screwing your kid’s life. So what is it? Are daycares ok for the children of nurses, teachers, public servants? Who are the nannies for? Big law partners and plastic surgeons?

Wife of a biglaw partner here with a BIL who is a surgeon (spouses are also employed making good money). We like daycare better, to be honest. We have done a nanny solely because we didn’t get into daycare for an infant for the reasons you described above.

The thing is, for those with big jobs, the nanny is going to be a pain. Especially a nanny with a family, life, or hobbies. We don’t have time for crap like a nanny’s sick kid or her feeling less than/wanting us to care about her. I need an employee who leaves her shit at the door, works nonstop while on shift, keeps the kids and their areas clean, and maybe even does some activities. For that, I’d pay $50/hour - but no one I’ve met is worth more than $25. For 2 kids.

A nanny’s sick kid is crap? That’s a terrible way to talk about a child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much are you nanny families making? We have a household income of $250k and I felt the squeeze of a nanny (we paid $60k / year gross to her).

Also side note I feel that the counter argument “well, then, you should just raise your own stupid kids” gross. Is it just me? Like it feels extortion-y or made to invoke the inherent feelings of guilt that many working mothers have. There should be a wide variety of options for working parents who have various HHIs. “Raising your own kids” is a perfectly valid choice, but this is 2023 not 1950…

There is a wide variety of options. Apparently you just feel entitled to the one that you want.

And your "this is 2023 not 1950" is more than "kind of gross."

“Wide variety of options”… eh. Where I live, people have to get on daycare waitlists at 8 weeks into their pregnancy to ensure a spot at 3 months post partum. People are routinely applying to daycares while trying to conceive. Vouchers for daycares have years long waitlists. People figure it out, but even on these forums, I’ve seen posts from nannies basically saying if you don’t have a nanny, you are screwing your kid’s life. So what is it? Are daycares ok for the children of nurses, teachers, public servants? Who are the nannies for? Big law partners and plastic surgeons?

Wife of a biglaw partner here with a BIL who is a surgeon (spouses are also employed making good money). We like daycare better, to be honest. We have done a nanny solely because we didn’t get into daycare for an infant for the reasons you described above.

The thing is, for those with big jobs, the nanny is going to be a pain. Especially a nanny with a family, life, or hobbies. We don’t have time for crap like a nanny’s sick kid or her feeling less than/wanting us to care about her. I need an employee who leaves her shit at the door, works nonstop while on shift, keeps the kids and their areas clean, and maybe even does some activities. For that, I’d pay $50/hour - but no one I’ve met is worth more than $25. For 2 kids.

A nanny’s sick kid is crap? That’s a terrible way to talk about a child.

I feel for the child. I simply don’t pay a premium (more than $30) for anyone who brings any baggage to work.

For what its worth we pay our nanny well over $25. But she is childfree, never late (literally ever), and has never hit me up for extra cash, to review a contract, etc.

She would laugh at every single person here who wants $30 plus per hour. None of you could do what she can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't trust anybody who would rather be a lawyer all day than spend that time with their precious infant so it's hard to take many of you seriously.

Lol since you are clearly a nanny, let me explain to you how the market works now that the pandemic is over. No one cares if you trust your employer. You just need to trust the checks will clear.

Literally you are talking about trust like it’s a two way street. But that’s why you could never be a lawyer (and I did childcare between college and law school).

[Anonymous]

Nanny in the house all day annoying you? Where else can she be?

[Anonymous]

In Maryland that is not the rate, it’s 22-25 for 1 kid.

[Anonymous]

I get it, but at the end of the day, having a nanny is a luxury. I certainly wouldn't be able to afford $30+ an hour for 40+ hrs a week 52 weeks a year + PTO + bonus, employer taxes, etc so we use a nanny share but don't fault any nanny who can make that and more.