If models are all tall, why is everything too short on 5’10” me?

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Anonymous wrote:5’10 is 6 inches above the US average and 8 inches above the world average. Why would you think that you wouldn’t need to wear a tall size? You are very tall.

+1. This post is clueless

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t the better question: why are models so tall when most women are much shorter?

Easy. Gay men run the fashion industry and they like tall and slim people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t the better question: why are models so tall when most women are much shorter?

Uh obviously because the clothes look better on tall women. The recent trend toward real-looking models shows us that.

The clothes look good on slim in shape women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are the models for regular clothes shorter? I feel like I’m buying large enough sizes but everything is always too short unless it comes in tall sizes. But the models always look right in the photos of the regular sizes. Aren’t they all tall? What am I doing wrong?

Manufacturing is focused on a fit model 5'5" to 5'6". The sample is developed in a size 8 then graded to other sizes (same height). If there are petites and talls those size ranges are also developed. Any given brand can set their sights on a different target demographic and do things a bit differently. But if they are selling to someone like Nordstrom, they are told exactly which size needs to meet spec, and exactly which mannequin it will be checked against.

Many brands use design elements that don't demand a precise fit, like cropped legs, blousing, turned back cuffs, waistlines that are angled, etc., so that a broader range of buyers will take the item without alteration.

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Fit models are typically around 5'6" and they are well-proportioned, and whatever the median/middle size is that the manufacturer makes. So let's say a brand makes a dress in 0 to 16, they will fit the dress on a 5'6", size 8 model and then just make the pattern proportionately wider or narrower based on her, but keep it the same height.

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Anonymous wrote:I have this problem too! I'm 5'8, and thin-ish, with long-ish arms. My conclusion is that the "model is 5'9 wearing a size S" is a lie on a lot of websites.. They either make a tall model-specific version that's different from what they're selling to customers (I think a different comment explained the "fit model" thing really well), or tailor/pin the garment to look better on the model, or use tricks like bunching up the sleeves. (Nowadays I try not to buy clothes where the sleeves are bunched on the model, because it always ends up too short on my arms.) I figure it's because their goal is to sell the clothing, not to really inform about size.

I'm 5'7 and totally agree!

Also a lot of the clothes just seem more fitted on the model than what you get. When I buy a Small from like Ann Taylor it's often some huge thing that hangs off me, but I am certainly not thinner than the model.

I agree with a PP that the model online is not wearing the real clothes, it's something tailored or tailormade.

Yeah, or they just photoshopped the picture to make it look like the pants fit.

I'm 5'7.5" and long legs. On Madewell for example they will say "model is 5'11" and wearing a small". I'm like ok, it will definitely be long enough for me if it works for this 5'11" model! And then it's too short.

There is no truth in advertising. They can re-tailor items for the ads, use binder clips to smooth wrinkles, and even then the photos are retouched for shape.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t the better question: why are models so tall when most women are much shorter?

Uh obviously because the clothes look better on tall women. The recent trend toward real-looking models shows us that.

The clothes look good on slim in shape women.

Badly designed clothes maybe. Reality is there are a lot of details of clothing that just aren't appropriate to rail thin people, and it can be quite hard to get the look across correctly on models who don't fill out the shapes. There's a lot of work that goes into styling models. In everyday life, I know plenty of thin people who don't know how to dress themselves. The idea that everything just looks good on a toothpick is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have this problem too! I'm 5'8, and thin-ish, with long-ish arms. My conclusion is that the "model is 5'9 wearing a size S" is a lie on a lot of websites.. They either make a tall model-specific version that's different from what they're selling to customers (I think a different comment explained the "fit model" thing really well), or tailor/pin the garment to look better on the model, or use tricks like bunching up the sleeves. (Nowadays I try not to buy clothes where the sleeves are bunched on the model, because it always ends up too short on my arms.) I figure it's because their goal is to sell the clothing, not to really inform about size.

I'm 5'7 and totally agree!

Also a lot of the clothes just seem more fitted on the model than what you get. When I buy a Small from like Ann Taylor it's often some huge thing that hangs off me, but I am certainly not thinner than the model.

I agree with a PP that the model online is not wearing the real clothes, it's something tailored or tailormade.

Yeah, or they just photoshopped the picture to make it look like the pants fit.

I'm 5'7.5" and long legs. On Madewell for example they will say "model is 5'11" and wearing a small". I'm like ok, it will definitely be long enough for me if it works for this 5'11" model! And then it's too short.

Yes, this is what I mean! Maybe before they listed the model’s height and size I just figured everything would be too short but then I see the model’s height in it and think, maybe? Then I get it and my butt is fully hanging out of the dress that was fine on the model who is the same height, no matter what size I get.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have this problem too! I'm 5'8, and thin-ish, with long-ish arms. My conclusion is that the "model is 5'9 wearing a size S" is a lie on a lot of websites.. They either make a tall model-specific version that's different from what they're selling to customers (I think a different comment explained the "fit model" thing really well), or tailor/pin the garment to look better on the model, or use tricks like bunching up the sleeves. (Nowadays I try not to buy clothes where the sleeves are bunched on the model, because it always ends up too short on my arms.) I figure it's because their goal is to sell the clothing, not to really inform about size.

I'm 5'7 and totally agree!

Also a lot of the clothes just seem more fitted on the model than what you get. When I buy a Small from like Ann Taylor it's often some huge thing that hangs off me, but I am certainly not thinner than the model.

I agree with a PP that the model online is not wearing the real clothes, it's something tailored or tailormade.

Yeah, or they just photoshopped the picture to make it look like the pants fit.

I'm 5'7.5" and long legs. On Madewell for example they will say "model is 5'11" and wearing a small". I'm like ok, it will definitely be long enough for me if it works for this 5'11" model! And then it's too short.

Yes, this is what I mean! Maybe before they listed the model’s height and size I just figured everything would be too short but then I see the model’s height in it and think, maybe? Then I get it and my butt is fully hanging out of the dress that was fine on the model who is the same height, no matter what size I get.

Some people have legs that eat length. If the fabric hangs completely free, it obviously falls longer than if it wends it's way over hips and calves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have this problem too! I'm 5'8, and thin-ish, with long-ish arms. My conclusion is that the "model is 5'9 wearing a size S" is a lie on a lot of websites.. They either make a tall model-specific version that's different from what they're selling to customers (I think a different comment explained the "fit model" thing really well), or tailor/pin the garment to look better on the model, or use tricks like bunching up the sleeves. (Nowadays I try not to buy clothes where the sleeves are bunched on the model, because it always ends up too short on my arms.) I figure it's because their goal is to sell the clothing, not to really inform about size.

I an 5 10 and tot agree with this - they lie.

Ps some of the short people on this thread are rude and clueless.

+100

There are way more options for petite women than tall women. I'm 5'11" and have very few options. So much for size inclusivity.

Another 5'11" tall woman here and I'm old, 62. When I was a teenager in the 70s and at my current height and all of 115lbs, it was impossible to find clothes that fit, there were no tall sizes to be found. I learned to sew and had to adjust all patterns for length. There are still no tall sizes in stores but at least I can find them online.

I’m 58 and had the same experience as a teen - 5’-11” 115lbs. It was horrible trying to find pants that were long enough. I also learned to sew. It’s so much easier now with tall sizes offered - and I’m no longer 115 lbs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have this problem too! I'm 5'8, and thin-ish, with long-ish arms. My conclusion is that the "model is 5'9 wearing a size S" is a lie on a lot of websites.. They either make a tall model-specific version that's different from what they're selling to customers (I think a different comment explained the "fit model" thing really well), or tailor/pin the garment to look better on the model, or use tricks like bunching up the sleeves. (Nowadays I try not to buy clothes where the sleeves are bunched on the model, because it always ends up too short on my arms.) I figure it's because their goal is to sell the clothing, not to really inform about size.

I an 5 10 and tot agree with this - they lie.

Ps some of the short people on this thread are rude and clueless.

+100

There are way more options for petite women than tall women. I'm 5'11" and have very few options. So much for size inclusivity.

Another 5'11" tall woman here and I'm old, 62. When I was a teenager in the 70s and at my current height and all of 115lbs, it was impossible to find clothes that fit, there were no tall sizes to be found. I learned to sew and had to adjust all patterns for length. There are still no tall sizes in stores but at least I can find them online.

I’m 58 and had the same experience as a teen - 5’-11” 115lbs. It was horrible trying to find pants that were long enough. I also learned to sew. It’s so much easier now with tall sizes offered - and I’m no longer 115 lbs.

Me neither, I miss those days when I could eat whatever I wanted. It wasn't until I hit menopause that I had to watch what I ate. I guess I should be grateful for the long run I had. But those nicknames in middle school, human javelin, stretch, bean pole, carpenter's dream. I could have lived without all of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have this problem too! I'm 5'8, and thin-ish, with long-ish arms. My conclusion is that the "model is 5'9 wearing a size S" is a lie on a lot of websites.. They either make a tall model-specific version that's different from what they're selling to customers (I think a different comment explained the "fit model" thing really well), or tailor/pin the garment to look better on the model, or use tricks like bunching up the sleeves. (Nowadays I try not to buy clothes where the sleeves are bunched on the model, because it always ends up too short on my arms.) I figure it's because their goal is to sell the clothing, not to really inform about size.

I'm 5'7 and totally agree!

Also a lot of the clothes just seem more fitted on the model than what you get. When I buy a Small from like Ann Taylor it's often some huge thing that hangs off me, but I am certainly not thinner than the model.

I agree with a PP that the model online is not wearing the real clothes, it's something tailored or tailormade.

Yeah, or they just photoshopped the picture to make it look like the pants fit.

I'm 5'7.5" and long legs. On Madewell for example they will say "model is 5'11" and wearing a small". I'm like ok, it will definitely be long enough for me if it works for this 5'11" model! And then it's too short.

Yes, this is what I mean! Maybe before they listed the model’s height and size I just figured everything would be too short but then I see the model’s height in it and think, maybe? Then I get it and my butt is fully hanging out of the dress that was fine on the model who is the same height, no matter what size I get.

Some people have legs that eat length. If the fabric hangs completely free, it obviously falls longer than if it wends it's way over hips and calves.

Yeah, I guess that’s right. I would size up and tailor, but it’s usually still too shory and there’s never any fabric in the hem any more. Remember when nice pants used to come unhemmed? I miss that! Otoh I don’t even have a dry cleaner any more so I get why those might be tough to sell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have this problem too! I'm 5'8, and thin-ish, with long-ish arms. My conclusion is that the "model is 5'9 wearing a size S" is a lie on a lot of websites.. They either make a tall model-specific version that's different from what they're selling to customers (I think a different comment explained the "fit model" thing really well), or tailor/pin the garment to look better on the model, or use tricks like bunching up the sleeves. (Nowadays I try not to buy clothes where the sleeves are bunched on the model, because it always ends up too short on my arms.) I figure it's because their goal is to sell the clothing, not to really inform about size.

I an 5 10 and tot agree with this - they lie.

Ps some of the short people on this thread are rude and clueless.

+100

There are way more options for petite women than tall women. I'm 5'11" and have very few options. So much for size inclusivity.

Another 5'11" tall woman here and I'm old, 62. When I was a teenager in the 70s and at my current height and all of 115lbs, it was impossible to find clothes that fit, there were no tall sizes to be found. I learned to sew and had to adjust all patterns for length. There are still no tall sizes in stores but at least I can find them online.

I’m 58 and had the same experience as a teen - 5’-11” 115lbs. It was horrible trying to find pants that were long enough. I also learned to sew. It’s so much easier now with tall sizes offered - and I’m no longer 115 lbs.

Me neither, I miss those days when I could eat whatever I wanted. It wasn't until I hit menopause that I had to watch what I ate. I guess I should be grateful for the long run I had. But those nicknames in middle school, human javelin, stretch, bean pole, carpenter's dream. I could have lived without all of that.

The names were horrible. I was so self conscious and covered my body as much as could. I even wore thermal underwear under my jeans for extra padding.

[Anonymous]

I am 5'8" and a lot of pants are too short for me. I'm pretty slim, it's not bulk taking up the length. I think that a. there is a trend to cropped pants and b. clothing makers are skimping a little on fabric. Even supposedly non-cropped pants are not quite long enough. I don't feel like I used to have this problem as much.

[Anonymous]

They are super skinny. Are you? No judgement, I’m 5’9” too. But I think if you aren’t model skinny, the width of you makes clothes shorter. Especially shirts.