These are the highest-paying college majors, 4 years after graduation—many pay over $100,000

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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/20/highest-paying-college-majors.html

The college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers

Top 10 majors by median salary for graduates who are 35-45 years old
The table shows the top 10 college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers.

Chemical engineering $120K
Computer engineering $114K
Aerospace engineering $112K
Electrical engineering $109K
Computer science $105K
Mechanical engineering $105K
Miscellaneous physical sciences $104K
Industrial engineering $100K
Miscellaneous engineering $100K
Civil engineering $100K

And remember, folks, this is a list of undergrad degrees only. So, no need to post, "But I was an English major, and now I'm a lawyer earning 5x that much".

So the vet in the OP post didn't need grad school? And non of the engineers here got a masters?

most engineering majors don't need a graduate degree to earn six figures. Yes, engineering majors make more than English majors -- undergrad.

Look at the starting salary of engineering majors? It's already close to six figures. 10 years later, their salaries would hit above six figures. English majors generally need a graduate degree to make six figures.

But most engineers don't make much past those starting figures, unless they go on and get a law degree and go into Intellectual Property law.

They are static and don't have the dramatic upward trend seen in other fields.

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Once again.. "I'm an English major and earn six figures, but I had to pay $100K+ to get a masters in order to get paid six figures". LOL

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Within four years of graduation, some majors stand to earn as much as $256,539, while others make less than $10,000 per year, according to a new report from The HEA Group, a research and higher education consulting firm.

The top-earning majors are in so-called STEM fields, or degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Half of the top 10 majors with graduates making the most money are subsets of engineering.

Michael Itzkowitz, the founder and president of The HEA Group, analyzed data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from more than two million students who received federal financial aid and graduated in 2015 or 2016. Their earnings were measured in 2019 and 2020.

Here are the 10 highest-paying college majors, four years after graduation:

Nuclear engineering $131,454.00
Biomathematics, Bioinformatics, Computational Biology $116,918.00
Operations Research $112,097.00
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering $109,121.00
Computer Science $104,799.00
Marine Transportation $103,626.00
Computer Engineering $99,063.00
Veterinary Medicine $97,533.00
Petroleum Engineering $96,957.00
Systems Engineering $95,224.00
Table: Morgan Smith
Source: The HEA Group, U.S. Department of Education

The majors with the highest earning potential tend to provide specialized, technical training in an in-demand field, like health care or technology, says Itzkowitz.

Nuclear engineering majors earn the most, with a median annual salary of $131,454. Increasing calls for clean, renewable energy has spurred demand for nuclear engineers amid challenges with wind and solar power.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/the-highest-paying-college-majors-4-years-after-graduation.html

These all have low ceilings though. Top out at 200-230K unless you move into a leadership role, and they will never see 7 figures unless they go to pre-IPO org. Engineers are hares in the race to success. But by the time they reach late 30's they are getting matched and outpaced by the English major who is Sr. Director of Marketing at Fortune 250

But only a few English majors will reach that level of success. Engineering is more of a sure thing, but not everyone can do it. It’s also a field biased towards males (no surprise).

you're wrong and misinformed. I know a woman who is CEO of a nonprofit. She is an english and women's studies major, with a salary of at least $400,000. I'm sure you are also someone who thinks that if you work in industries such as nonprofit, you are only going to make 60K as a CEO. People who are generally clueless should keep their opinions to themselves.

DP..

1. you don't understand statistics, clearly
2. most English majors who earn six figures also have graduate degrees. Engineering majors don't need graduate degrees to earn six figures.

DP Cite your source.
Also companies pay for Masters Degrees, PT MBA's, Executive MBA's, etc. So cost is a moot point.
Your point is fine, graduate with engineering make 6 figures. You can also graduate with English go to McKinsey make 6 figures. If the point is just to make 6 figures fine. But Engineers who cannot make eye contact while walking down a hallway will make six figures and top out. But the most ambitious folks, socially adept and also have brains are going to accelerate past that. I have a Psych degree and make 2-3x what my Mechanical Engineer friend makes and he has a Masters.

You sound smart but don't seem to understand that an exception doesn't make the rule. For every psych major making "2-3x" their mechE friend, there are a thousand engineers that make "2-3x" their mechE friends. Or did you think that just because you are successful, all psychology degree holders make "2-3x" their mechE friends?

You don't seem to understand corporations. I work in Biotech. We have FOUR THOUSAND Directors, Sr. Directors and VPs who make 2-3x what the engineers make.

dp.. and you don't seem to understand that ALL FOUR THOUSAND directors, SR Directors all have graduate degrees, whereas many engineers don't.

So once again... in order for English majors to earn six figures they need to spend $100K+ on graduate school to do so, whereas Engineering majors don't.

NO They Don't. Have you heard of TUITION REIMBURSEMENT? For anyone who WANTS a Graduate Degree, and not all of them want one or have one, some are straight BA Comms majors from UMASS Amherst, but if they do want one, the Company pays for it.
But keep living in your myopic bubble. Your kid will be fine making 175K Forever.

LOL.. you think every MBA grad is getting tuition reimbursement? Cite your source.


I wasn't a STEM major, btw.

If you paid for your MBA, you're dumb for not being strategic. You're supposed to find your way into a Top Employer, and then they pay for Grad School. Everyone knows this. Why don't you?
https://fortune.com/education/articles/these-fortune-500-companies-will-help-pay-for-employees-mba/
https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/analysis/2021/09/16/top-companies-offering-tuition-reimbursement/

so, you have no source that shows that majority of MBA grads get their graduate degrees paid for them. Got it.

yes, some companies will pay for MBAs, but 1. some of those people getting their MBA paid for are probably engineering majors 2. the articles you posted still don't indicate that majority of English majors are getting their graduate degrees paid for them such that they are not having to spend $100K for graduate school in order to get paid six figures.

Logic is not your strong suit.

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Anonymous wrote:Your college major can have a profound impact on your income.

Within four years of graduation, some majors stand to earn as much as $256,539, while others make less than $10,000 per year, according to a new report from The HEA Group, a research and higher education consulting firm.

The top-earning majors are in so-called STEM fields, or degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Half of the top 10 majors with graduates making the most money are subsets of engineering.

Michael Itzkowitz, the founder and president of The HEA Group, analyzed data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from more than two million students who received federal financial aid and graduated in 2015 or 2016. Their earnings were measured in 2019 and 2020.

Here are the 10 highest-paying college majors, four years after graduation:

Nuclear engineering $131,454.00
Biomathematics, Bioinformatics, Computational Biology $116,918.00
Operations Research $112,097.00
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering $109,121.00
Computer Science $104,799.00
Marine Transportation $103,626.00
Computer Engineering $99,063.00
Veterinary Medicine $97,533.00
Petroleum Engineering $96,957.00
Systems Engineering $95,224.00
Table: Morgan Smith
Source: The HEA Group, U.S. Department of Education

The majors with the highest earning potential tend to provide specialized, technical training in an in-demand field, like health care or technology, says Itzkowitz.

Nuclear engineering majors earn the most, with a median annual salary of $131,454. Increasing calls for clean, renewable energy has spurred demand for nuclear engineers amid challenges with wind and solar power.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/the-highest-paying-college-majors-4-years-after-graduation.html

These all have low ceilings though. Top out at 200-230K unless you move into a leadership role, and they will never see 7 figures unless they go to pre-IPO org. Engineers are hares in the race to success. But by the time they reach late 30's they are getting matched and outpaced by the English major who is Sr. Director of Marketing at Fortune 250

Which is pretty irrelevant as there are far more than 250 engineers out there and only 250 sr director of marketing positions in the Fortune 250, duh...

What? LOL No. That's not how it works Agnes. There can be 80 Senior Directors of Marketing in a large company, there can be 20 VPs of Marketing in a Conglomerate like Danaher. If you do that math there are 50,000 Leadership Marketing Roles THAT MAKE MORE THAN YOUR ENGINEER. And 50,000 Finance Roles. 50,000 HR roles. 50,000 Account Management Roles, 50,000 Sales Roles 50,000 IT roles. That's a whole lot of people who make more than Engineers do, Agnes!

Imagine thinking that someone with a degree in engineering can only be an engineer.

(Engineering is among the most commonly represented majors in the C-Suite at F500 companies, FYI.)

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Anonymous wrote:Your college major can have a profound impact on your income.

Within four years of graduation, some majors stand to earn as much as $256,539, while others make less than $10,000 per year, according to a new report from The HEA Group, a research and higher education consulting firm.

The top-earning majors are in so-called STEM fields, or degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Half of the top 10 majors with graduates making the most money are subsets of engineering.

Michael Itzkowitz, the founder and president of The HEA Group, analyzed data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from more than two million students who received federal financial aid and graduated in 2015 or 2016. Their earnings were measured in 2019 and 2020.

Here are the 10 highest-paying college majors, four years after graduation:

Nuclear engineering $131,454.00
Biomathematics, Bioinformatics, Computational Biology $116,918.00
Operations Research $112,097.00
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering $109,121.00
Computer Science $104,799.00
Marine Transportation $103,626.00
Computer Engineering $99,063.00
Veterinary Medicine $97,533.00
Petroleum Engineering $96,957.00
Systems Engineering $95,224.00
Table: Morgan Smith
Source: The HEA Group, U.S. Department of Education

The majors with the highest earning potential tend to provide specialized, technical training in an in-demand field, like health care or technology, says Itzkowitz.

Nuclear engineering majors earn the most, with a median annual salary of $131,454. Increasing calls for clean, renewable energy has spurred demand for nuclear engineers amid challenges with wind and solar power.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/the-highest-paying-college-majors-4-years-after-graduation.html

These all have low ceilings though. Top out at 200-230K unless you move into a leadership role, and they will never see 7 figures unless they go to pre-IPO org. Engineers are hares in the race to success. But by the time they reach late 30's they are getting matched and outpaced by the English major who is Sr. Director of Marketing at Fortune 250

Which is pretty irrelevant as there are far more than 250 engineers out there and only 250 sr director of marketing positions in the Fortune 250, duh...

What? LOL No. That's not how it works Agnes. There can be 80 Senior Directors of Marketing in a large company, there can be 20 VPs of Marketing in a Conglomerate like Danaher. If you do that math there are 50,000 Leadership Marketing Roles THAT MAKE MORE THAN YOUR ENGINEER. And 50,000 Finance Roles. 50,000 HR roles. 50,000 Account Management Roles, 50,000 Sales Roles 50,000 IT roles. That's a whole lot of people who make more than Engineers do, Agnes!

Imagine thinking that someone with a degree in engineering can only be an engineer.

(Engineering is among the most commonly represented majors in the C-Suite at F500 companies, FYI.)

But also not typically without a graduate degree.

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Anonymous wrote:Your college major can have a profound impact on your income.

Within four years of graduation, some majors stand to earn as much as $256,539, while others make less than $10,000 per year, according to a new report from The HEA Group, a research and higher education consulting firm.

The top-earning majors are in so-called STEM fields, or degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Half of the top 10 majors with graduates making the most money are subsets of engineering.

Michael Itzkowitz, the founder and president of The HEA Group, analyzed data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from more than two million students who received federal financial aid and graduated in 2015 or 2016. Their earnings were measured in 2019 and 2020.

Here are the 10 highest-paying college majors, four years after graduation:

Nuclear engineering $131,454.00
Biomathematics, Bioinformatics, Computational Biology $116,918.00
Operations Research $112,097.00
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering $109,121.00
Computer Science $104,799.00
Marine Transportation $103,626.00
Computer Engineering $99,063.00
Veterinary Medicine $97,533.00
Petroleum Engineering $96,957.00
Systems Engineering $95,224.00
Table: Morgan Smith
Source: The HEA Group, U.S. Department of Education

The majors with the highest earning potential tend to provide specialized, technical training in an in-demand field, like health care or technology, says Itzkowitz.

Nuclear engineering majors earn the most, with a median annual salary of $131,454. Increasing calls for clean, renewable energy has spurred demand for nuclear engineers amid challenges with wind and solar power.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/the-highest-paying-college-majors-4-years-after-graduation.html

These all have low ceilings though. Top out at 200-230K unless you move into a leadership role, and they will never see 7 figures unless they go to pre-IPO org. Engineers are hares in the race to success. But by the time they reach late 30's they are getting matched and outpaced by the English major who is Sr. Director of Marketing at Fortune 250

Which is pretty irrelevant as there are far more than 250 engineers out there and only 250 sr director of marketing positions in the Fortune 250, duh...

What? LOL No. That's not how it works Agnes. There can be 80 Senior Directors of Marketing in a large company, there can be 20 VPs of Marketing in a Conglomerate like Danaher. If you do that math there are 50,000 Leadership Marketing Roles THAT MAKE MORE THAN YOUR ENGINEER. And 50,000 Finance Roles. 50,000 HR roles. 50,000 Account Management Roles, 50,000 Sales Roles 50,000 IT roles. That's a whole lot of people who make more than Engineers do, Agnes!

Imagine thinking that someone with a degree in engineering can only be an engineer.

(Engineering is among the most commonly represented majors in the C-Suite at F500 companies, FYI.)

F100, top undergrad was actually BBA.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimberlywhitler/2019/10/05/new-ceo-study-the-undergraduate-degrees-and-majors-of-fortune-100-ceos/?sh=60a6131c4130

The Bachelor of Arts (BA) and Bachelor of Business Administration (BBA) were the most popular among F100 CEOs, with 53% of those identified having obtained one of these two degrees. A Bachelor of Science (BS) degree is held by 47% of the CEOs who received an undergraduate degree.

But yes, F500, #1 undergrad is engineering, then econ, then BBA.

https://academicinfluence.com/rankings/schools/which-colleges-most-alumni-ceos-fortune-500-companies

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Anonymous wrote:Your college major can have a profound impact on your income.

Within four years of graduation, some majors stand to earn as much as $256,539, while others make less than $10,000 per year, according to a new report from The HEA Group, a research and higher education consulting firm.

The top-earning majors are in so-called STEM fields, or degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Half of the top 10 majors with graduates making the most money are subsets of engineering.

Michael Itzkowitz, the founder and president of The HEA Group, analyzed data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from more than two million students who received federal financial aid and graduated in 2015 or 2016. Their earnings were measured in 2019 and 2020.

Here are the 10 highest-paying college majors, four years after graduation:

Nuclear engineering $131,454.00
Biomathematics, Bioinformatics, Computational Biology $116,918.00
Operations Research $112,097.00
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering $109,121.00
Computer Science $104,799.00
Marine Transportation $103,626.00
Computer Engineering $99,063.00
Veterinary Medicine $97,533.00
Petroleum Engineering $96,957.00
Systems Engineering $95,224.00
Table: Morgan Smith
Source: The HEA Group, U.S. Department of Education

The majors with the highest earning potential tend to provide specialized, technical training in an in-demand field, like health care or technology, says Itzkowitz.

Nuclear engineering majors earn the most, with a median annual salary of $131,454. Increasing calls for clean, renewable energy has spurred demand for nuclear engineers amid challenges with wind and solar power.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/the-highest-paying-college-majors-4-years-after-graduation.html

These all have low ceilings though. Top out at 200-230K unless you move into a leadership role, and they will never see 7 figures unless they go to pre-IPO org. Engineers are hares in the race to success. But by the time they reach late 30's they are getting matched and outpaced by the English major who is Sr. Director of Marketing at Fortune 250

Which is pretty irrelevant as there are far more than 250 engineers out there and only 250 sr director of marketing positions in the Fortune 250, duh...

What? LOL No. That's not how it works Agnes. There can be 80 Senior Directors of Marketing in a large company, there can be 20 VPs of Marketing in a Conglomerate like Danaher. If you do that math there are 50,000 Leadership Marketing Roles THAT MAKE MORE THAN YOUR ENGINEER. And 50,000 Finance Roles. 50,000 HR roles. 50,000 Account Management Roles, 50,000 Sales Roles 50,000 IT roles. That's a whole lot of people who make more than Engineers do, Agnes!

Imagine thinking that someone with a degree in engineering can only be an engineer.

(Engineering is among the most commonly represented majors in the C-Suite at F500 companies, FYI.)

But also not typically without a graduate degree.

but, statistically, engineering undergrad degree majors make six figures but English undergrad majors don't.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/20/highest-paying-college-majors.html

The college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers

Top 10 majors by median salary for graduates who are 35-45 years old
The table shows the top 10 college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers.

Chemical engineering $120K
Computer engineering $114K
Aerospace engineering $112K
Electrical engineering $109K
Computer science $105K
Mechanical engineering $105K
Miscellaneous physical sciences $104K
Industrial engineering $100K
Miscellaneous engineering $100K
Civil engineering $100K

And remember, folks, this is a list of undergrad degrees only. So, no need to post, "But I was an English major, and now I'm a lawyer earning 5x that much".

So the vet in the OP post didn't need grad school? And non of the engineers here got a masters?

most engineering majors don't need a graduate degree to earn six figures. Yes, engineering majors make more than English majors -- undergrad.

Look at the starting salary of engineering majors? It's already close to six figures. 10 years later, their salaries would hit above six figures. English majors generally need a graduate degree to make six figures.

My point is that by including vets, there must be grad degrees in the mix. Many engineers get them, so now you can't distinguish between strictly undergrad and those who also have grad. Also, I didn't say anything about English. Why such a beef with English? And, why the constant rehashing of these lists. People can be successful with all sorts of degrees. They carry their own costs and benefits that can't really be measured by lists like this.

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Most people don’t know ever become CEOs. For every English/history/poli sci major making $$$$, there are hundreds if not thousands of them sitting in the basements (or childhood bedrooms) of their parents’ homes and doing nothing but tweeting how unfair and unjust this capitalist society is. At least the Starbucks baristas have gainful employment.

Not all engineers are rich but most of them are able to put food on the table, and more.

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My engineering graduate was offered $80k two weeks before graduation for a job that started three weeks later. So happy for them!

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Anonymous wrote:Your college major can have a profound impact on your income.

Within four years of graduation, some majors stand to earn as much as $256,539, while others make less than $10,000 per year, according to a new report from The HEA Group, a research and higher education consulting firm.

The top-earning majors are in so-called STEM fields, or degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Half of the top 10 majors with graduates making the most money are subsets of engineering.

Michael Itzkowitz, the founder and president of The HEA Group, analyzed data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from more than two million students who received federal financial aid and graduated in 2015 or 2016. Their earnings were measured in 2019 and 2020.

Here are the 10 highest-paying college majors, four years after graduation:

Nuclear engineering $131,454.00
Biomathematics, Bioinformatics, Computational Biology $116,918.00
Operations Research $112,097.00
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering $109,121.00
Computer Science $104,799.00
Marine Transportation $103,626.00
Computer Engineering $99,063.00
Veterinary Medicine $97,533.00
Petroleum Engineering $96,957.00
Systems Engineering $95,224.00
Table: Morgan Smith
Source: The HEA Group, U.S. Department of Education

The majors with the highest earning potential tend to provide specialized, technical training in an in-demand field, like health care or technology, says Itzkowitz.

Nuclear engineering majors earn the most, with a median annual salary of $131,454. Increasing calls for clean, renewable energy has spurred demand for nuclear engineers amid challenges with wind and solar power.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/the-highest-paying-college-majors-4-years-after-graduation.html

These all have low ceilings though. Top out at 200-230K unless you move into a leadership role, and they will never see 7 figures unless they go to pre-IPO org. Engineers are hares in the race to success. But by the time they reach late 30's they are getting matched and outpaced by the English major who is Sr. Director of Marketing at Fortune 250

But only a few English majors will reach that level of success. Engineering is more of a sure thing, but not everyone can do it. It’s also a field biased towards males (no surprise).

you're wrong and misinformed. I know a woman who is CEO of a nonprofit. She is an english and women's studies major, with a salary of at least $400,000. I'm sure you are also someone who thinks that if you work in industries such as nonprofit, you are only going to make 60K as a CEO. People who are generally clueless should keep their opinions to themselves.

DP..

1. you don't understand statistics, clearly
2. most English majors who earn six figures also have graduate degrees. Engineering majors don't need graduate degrees to earn six figures.

DP Cite your source.
Also companies pay for Masters Degrees, PT MBA's, Executive MBA's, etc. So cost is a moot point.
Your point is fine, graduate with engineering make 6 figures. You can also graduate with English go to McKinsey make 6 figures. If the point is just to make 6 figures fine. But Engineers who cannot make eye contact while walking down a hallway will make six figures and top out. But the most ambitious folks, socially adept and also have brains are going to accelerate past that. I have a Psych degree and make 2-3x what my Mechanical Engineer friend makes and he has a Masters.

You sound smart but don't seem to understand that an exception doesn't make the rule. For every psych major making "2-3x" their mechE friend, there are a thousand engineers that make "2-3x" their mechE friends. Or did you think that just because you are successful, all psychology degree holders make "2-3x" their mechE friends?

+1

Engineers top out if they don't want to move into management (which many do not want to do). But the topping out will be at $150-250K and most will reach the $150K within 10 years easily.

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Anonymous wrote:Your college major can have a profound impact on your income.

Within four years of graduation, some majors stand to earn as much as $256,539, while others make less than $10,000 per year, according to a new report from The HEA Group, a research and higher education consulting firm.

The top-earning majors are in so-called STEM fields, or degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Half of the top 10 majors with graduates making the most money are subsets of engineering.

Michael Itzkowitz, the founder and president of The HEA Group, analyzed data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from more than two million students who received federal financial aid and graduated in 2015 or 2016. Their earnings were measured in 2019 and 2020.

Here are the 10 highest-paying college majors, four years after graduation:

Nuclear engineering $131,454.00
Biomathematics, Bioinformatics, Computational Biology $116,918.00
Operations Research $112,097.00
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering $109,121.00
Computer Science $104,799.00
Marine Transportation $103,626.00
Computer Engineering $99,063.00
Veterinary Medicine $97,533.00
Petroleum Engineering $96,957.00
Systems Engineering $95,224.00
Table: Morgan Smith
Source: The HEA Group, U.S. Department of Education

The majors with the highest earning potential tend to provide specialized, technical training in an in-demand field, like health care or technology, says Itzkowitz.

Nuclear engineering majors earn the most, with a median annual salary of $131,454. Increasing calls for clean, renewable energy has spurred demand for nuclear engineers amid challenges with wind and solar power.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/16/the-highest-paying-college-majors-4-years-after-graduation.html

These all have low ceilings though. Top out at 200-230K unless you move into a leadership role, and they will never see 7 figures unless they go to pre-IPO org. Engineers are hares in the race to success. But by the time they reach late 30's they are getting matched and outpaced by the English major who is Sr. Director of Marketing at Fortune 250

Which is pretty irrelevant as there are far more than 250 engineers out there and only 250 sr director of marketing positions in the Fortune 250, duh...

And the engineers with the similar drive/motivation often are heading into management (even without an MBA/Advanced degree) and becoming Sr director of engineering or VP of engineering. All without getting any more education

And the English majors who don't have that drive/motivation are working jobs paying them $70-80K/year, while the engineers are getting $150-200K already.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/20/highest-paying-college-majors.html

The college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers

Top 10 majors by median salary for graduates who are 35-45 years old
The table shows the top 10 college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers.

Chemical engineering $120K
Computer engineering $114K
Aerospace engineering $112K
Electrical engineering $109K
Computer science $105K
Mechanical engineering $105K
Miscellaneous physical sciences $104K
Industrial engineering $100K
Miscellaneous engineering $100K
Civil engineering $100K

And remember, folks, this is a list of undergrad degrees only. So, no need to post, "But I was an English major, and now I'm a lawyer earning 5x that much".

So the vet in the OP post didn't need grad school? And non of the engineers here got a masters?

most engineering majors don't need a graduate degree to earn six figures. Yes, engineering majors make more than English majors -- undergrad.

Look at the starting salary of engineering majors? It's already close to six figures. 10 years later, their salaries would hit above six figures. English majors generally need a graduate degree to make six figures.

My point is that by including vets, there must be grad degrees in the mix. Many engineers get them, so now you can't distinguish between strictly undergrad and those who also have grad. Also, I didn't say anything about English. Why such a beef with English? And, why the constant rehashing of these lists. People can be successful with all sorts of degrees. They carry their own costs and benefits that can't really be measured by lists like this.

the CNBC article indicates that they looked just at undergrad.

If you don't care about such topics, don't read/post on them. I don't generally read/post on topics I don't care about or have interest in. Why do you?

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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/20/highest-paying-college-majors.html

The college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers

Top 10 majors by median salary for graduates who are 35-45 years old
The table shows the top 10 college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers.

Chemical engineering $120K
Computer engineering $114K
Aerospace engineering $112K
Electrical engineering $109K
Computer science $105K
Mechanical engineering $105K
Miscellaneous physical sciences $104K
Industrial engineering $100K
Miscellaneous engineering $100K
Civil engineering $100K

And remember, folks, this is a list of undergrad degrees only. So, no need to post, "But I was an English major, and now I'm a lawyer earning 5x that much".

So the vet in the OP post didn't need grad school? And non of the engineers here got a masters?

most engineering majors don't need a graduate degree to earn six figures. Yes, engineering majors make more than English majors -- undergrad.

Look at the starting salary of engineering majors? It's already close to six figures. 10 years later, their salaries would hit above six figures. English majors generally need a graduate degree to make six figures.

My point is that by including vets, there must be grad degrees in the mix. Many engineers get them, so now you can't distinguish between strictly undergrad and those who also have grad. Also, I didn't say anything about English. Why such a beef with English? And, why the constant rehashing of these lists. People can be successful with all sorts of degrees. They carry their own costs and benefits that can't really be measured by lists like this.

the CNBC article indicates that they looked just at undergrad.

If you don't care about such topics, don't read/post on them. I don't generally read/post on topics I don't care about or have interest in. Why do you?

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Anonymous wrote:Same after 10+ years

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/20/highest-paying-college-majors.html

The college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers

Top 10 majors by median salary for graduates who are 35-45 years old
The table shows the top 10 college majors that pay the most for mid-career workers.

Chemical engineering $120K
Computer engineering $114K
Aerospace engineering $112K
Electrical engineering $109K
Computer science $105K
Mechanical engineering $105K
Miscellaneous physical sciences $104K
Industrial engineering $100K
Miscellaneous engineering $100K
Civil engineering $100K

And remember, folks, this is a list of undergrad degrees only. So, no need to post, "But I was an English major, and now I'm a lawyer earning 5x that much".

So the vet in the OP post didn't need grad school? And non of the engineers here got a masters?

most engineering majors don't need a graduate degree to earn six figures. Yes, engineering majors make more than English majors -- undergrad.

Look at the starting salary of engineering majors? It's already close to six figures. 10 years later, their salaries would hit above six figures. English majors generally need a graduate degree to make six figures.

My point is that by including vets, there must be grad degrees in the mix. Many engineers get them, so now you can't distinguish between strictly undergrad and those who also have grad. Also, I didn't say anything about English. Why such a beef with English? And, why the constant rehashing of these lists. People can be successful with all sorts of degrees. They carry their own costs and benefits that can't really be measured by lists like this.

By the same token, people can be successful without any degrees. There are many people with plumbers’ or car mechanics’ or HVAC technicians’ certificates (or even without any certificates) who are far more successful in life than most English majors.

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Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t know ever become CEOs. For every English/history/poli sci major making $$$$, there are hundreds if not thousands of them sitting in the basements (or childhood bedrooms) of their parents’ homes and doing nothing but tweeting how unfair and unjust this capitalist society is. At least the Starbucks baristas have gainful employment.

Not all engineers are rich but most of them are able to put food on the table, and more.

Engineers aren't who they are complaining about when they decry capitalism, it's billionaires who are tilting politics for their benefit and evading taxes. Engineers are working schlubs like everyone else. And it looks like all college grads on average are earning enough to put food on the table and more.

Engineers sure do seem to know how to beat a dead horse though. Must be all the emphasis on redundancy in design just bleeds through to everything else.