You haven’t been keeping up if you think Stanford students are much happier these days. They’ve somehow found a way to kill the fun at a school that should be a delight to attend. |
Pick Stanford for the SCEA application. Princeton can be problematic for students on financial aid because of the Eating Clubs. Good luck! |
Princeton by far
Stanford is full of weirdos |
Actually Princeton increases the financial aid budget for every junior and senior to cover the cost of an eating club if they do choose to join. I believe Princeton takes the average cost of an eating club as the “board” amount. If students choose to do a co-op or apartment style living with kitchen they actually can pocket the difference (or their balance due to the school for direct expenses like tuition and fees and room will be reduced) whether your student gets a “credit refund” or your family’s bill due to the school depending on the level of financial aid the family receives. So Princeton really does make it equitable for all students to join an eating club if they choose. Stanford actually has some variance in the price of housing for sophomores, juniors and seniors — if they pick one of the apartment style housing, room cost is actually higher although they could save money on food as they don’t have to purchase a full meal plan or meal plan at all perhaps. |
Is there really a sibling legacy hook at HYPS? |
Werd? |
Yes |
DP. Good point if DC #1's school considers that. |
Just go with MIT since sibling goes there. Will be easier to adjust, and cheaper for you in terms of travel costs |
Same here. And congrats to your kid! This board would have told my DC not to apply and that high stats kids are a dime a dozen. Sure, but some of them are getting offers. Can't hurt to try. |
My kid applied SCEA to Princeton. Got the soft rejection. I wish we hadn’t wasted the SCEA |
I think most do not choose between P and S based on housing alone. But just in case it’s important for some, Stanford has 3 tiers of housing. The Mirrielees apartments that house only 5% of upperclassmen is the most expensive but most people apply there because of dietary restrictions eg med, religious, maybe cost since you don’t have to take the mandatory meal plan elsewhere. The vast majority live in traditional dorms where there is staff, dining halls (or cook), structure etc. The third and cheapest accommodation are the co-op theme houses (culture, language, how stoned you’d like to get) where it’s cheaper because there is no staff. Students take turns working on what the group needs eg cleaning etc. The difference in cost are not stark, perhaps $500/qtr. |
Applying to any SCEA school is a huge mistake for unhooked kids. It forecloses applying EA to a private safety (which ED does not), takes away any realistic chance of getting into a school offering only ED1 (because not getting in RD), and puts applicants in a much more competitive ED2 pool for those few highly selective schools which offer it. This cascade of consequences means that the vast majority of SCEA applicants end up going to a school a notch below the school they could have gone to had they avoided SCEA altogether… |
So what do kids who need significant financial aid do? These most selective schools are also the ones that give the most financial aid. How do these kids play the early card? Sure you can possibly back out of an ED acceptance for financial reasons but then your options are only RD for other schools. |
Does a competitive (grades, rigor, EC etc) URM / hooked student have a better chance in SCEA or also in RD at HYPSM? Who is getting in RD at HYPSM? |