What are signs a school is struggling or on the verge of closing

[Anonymous]

Can we get back on the topic?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Baltimore is…Baltimore. It certainly isn’t in its heyday at the moment. I don’t think schools in the DMV are in much danger.

Baltimore is part of “DMV”. Please tell me you know that.

Honestly, if you don’t know about “Baltimore privates”, you don’t seem qualified to weigh in on this discussion.

Most people don’t consider Baltimore part of the DMV. I know I don’t. Neither does wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_metropolitan_area

https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/sports/angel-reese-baltimore-dmv-basketball-Q6BCQUKTVZDPHOYETXYPY4IYPQ/

Baltimore is not the DMV

That person must be new here.

[Anonymous]

The Baltimore privates are all fine, at least the independent schools. If any is a bit weak, it’s Garrison Forest. There is plenty of demand and it seems to be increasing each year.

[Anonymous]

I’ve lived in the DMV my entire life and I’ve never heard of Baltimore being part of it. Ever.

[Anonymous]

Another Philly school is Springside Chestnut Hill Academy which merged Chestnut Hill (boys) and Springside (girls) a few years ago.

[Anonymous]

I’m the pp that asked about examples of single-sex schools that went coed. Thank you to everyone for the feedback, because none of them are recent changes and all of them still seem to be going strong. So I’m still confused about the earlier poster’s comment that a single-sex school going coed is a sign of a school about to fail. That doesn’t seem to be supported by any actual examples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m the pp that asked about examples of single-sex schools that went coed. Thank you to everyone for the feedback, because none of them are recent changes and all of them still seem to be going strong. So I’m still confused about the earlier poster’s comment that a single-sex school going coed is a sign of a school about to fail. That doesn’t seem to be supported by any actual examples.

You could say that those schools would’ve failed if they hadn’t gone coed.

[Anonymous]

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https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the pp that asked about examples of single-sex schools that went coed. Thank you to everyone for the feedback, because none of them are recent changes and all of them still seem to be going strong. So I’m still confused about the earlier poster’s comment that a single-sex school going coed is a sign of a school about to fail. That doesn’t seem to be supported by any actual examples.

You could say that those schools would’ve failed if they hadn’t gone coed.

NP. But not that going coed was a sign of a school that would fail, which was how I (and apparently pp) interpreted the previous comment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Renting out space to another school (Green Acres.) I am not saying they are clodung BUT it is not a good sign.

Could be describe that in more detail? I’m pretty sure every school with a pool, for example, rents it out. Schools rent out field space in the summer for day camps. NCS & WIS rent out space for weddings.

Green Acres rented out a building to another school on a permanent basis.

We also felt like their facilities were not well-maintained.

I’m not saying they’re closing, but we didn’t get the impression that the school is well-run.

I think that private schools that don’t have high schools are more likely to struggle with alumni donations because if they finish at a school in 6th or 8th grade, there’s at least another decade before an alum is going to be in a position to donate much. By 23+ you’re too far removed from where you went to elementary school to care.

Nah, spouse and I went to Baltimore private schools and k-8 Calvert is the only school that gets our money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Renting out space to another school (Green Acres.) I am not saying they are clodung BUT it is not a good sign.

Could be describe that in more detail? I’m pretty sure every school with a pool, for example, rents it out. Schools rent out field space in the summer for day camps. NCS & WIS rent out space for weddings.

Green Acres rented out a building to another school on a permanent basis.

We also felt like their facilities were not well-maintained.

I’m not saying they’re closing, but we didn’t get the impression that the school is well-run.

I think that private schools that don’t have high schools are more likely to struggle with alumni donations because if they finish at a school in 6th or 8th grade, there’s at least another decade before an alum is going to be in a position to donate much. By 23+ you’re too far removed from where you went to elementary school to care.

Nah, spouse and I went to Baltimore private schools and k-8 Calvert is the only school that gets our money.

Which high schools did you go to so that I can avoid them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Renting out space to another school (Green Acres.) I am not saying they are clodung BUT it is not a good sign.

Could be describe that in more detail? I’m pretty sure every school with a pool, for example, rents it out. Schools rent out field space in the summer for day camps. NCS & WIS rent out space for weddings.

Green Acres rented out a building to another school on a permanent basis.

We also felt like their facilities were not well-maintained.

I’m not saying they’re closing, but we didn’t get the impression that the school is well-run.

I think that private schools that don’t have high schools are more likely to struggle with alumni donations because if they finish at a school in 6th or 8th grade, there’s at least another decade before an alum is going to be in a position to donate much. By 23+ you’re too far removed from where you went to elementary school to care.

Nah, spouse and I went to Baltimore private schools and k-8 Calvert is the only school that gets our money.

Which high schools did you go to so that I can avoid them?

Gilman and Bryn Mawr. We avoid them too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Renting out space to another school (Green Acres.) I am not saying they are clodung BUT it is not a good sign.

Could be describe that in more detail? I’m pretty sure every school with a pool, for example, rents it out. Schools rent out field space in the summer for day camps. NCS & WIS rent out space for weddings.

Green Acres rented out a building to another school on a permanent basis.

We also felt like their facilities were not well-maintained.

I’m not saying they’re closing, but we didn’t get the impression that the school is well-run.

I think that private schools that don’t have high schools are more likely to struggle with alumni donations because if they finish at a school in 6th or 8th grade, there’s at least another decade before an alum is going to be in a position to donate much. By 23+ you’re too far removed from where you went to elementary school to care.

Nah, spouse and I went to Baltimore private schools and k-8 Calvert is the only school that gets our money.

Which high schools did you go to so that I can avoid them?

Lolyola and NDP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Renting out space to another school (Green Acres.) I am not saying they are clodung BUT it is not a good sign.

Could be describe that in more detail? I’m pretty sure every school with a pool, for example, rents it out. Schools rent out field space in the summer for day camps. NCS & WIS rent out space for weddings.

Green Acres rented out a building to another school on a permanent basis.

We also felt like their facilities were not well-maintained.

I’m not saying they’re closing, but we didn’t get the impression that the school is well-run.

I think that private schools that don’t have high schools are more likely to struggle with alumni donations because if they finish at a school in 6th or 8th grade, there’s at least another decade before an alum is going to be in a position to donate much. By 23+ you’re too far removed from where you went to elementary school to care.

Nah, spouse and I went to Baltimore private schools and k-8 Calvert is the only school that gets our money.

Which high schools did you go to so that I can avoid them?

Calvert Hall and RPCS

[Anonymous]

An issue on the horizon for all private/independent schools in the DMV is the decline in fertility rates. There just aren't as many babies being born. Reduced numbers of students will stress some schools who need a set number of full pay families to break even.