Yorktown vs WL — Ranking vs word on street

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

I’m in Cherrydale, and live close enough to WL to hear the marching band practice and the PA system during athletic events at the stadium. Hell yes I’d put up a fight if my neighborhood was redistricted to Yorktown so that some kids who live 3 miles away can be bused to WL. If Arlington gets to that point, just get rid of zoned HS and make it all lottery.

Sorry, Woodmont, Maywood, and Cherrydale are the WL neighborhoods closest to Yorktown -- so it makes sense to move them. It would also make Yorktown contiguous. It just happens Yorktown and WL are not that far apart.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/HSZones_Lg.pdf

That’s why the Cherrydale and Waverly Hills planning units north of 66 (only a two to five minute walk to W-L) were under proposed scenarios to move them to Yorktown. It may come up again when boundaries are revisited. Same with Lyon Village which is adjacent to the Yorktown district. Or those west of N Glebe Road. The boundaries just reflect how the population growth is in South Arlington. Some neighborhoods in FCPS and MCPS literally a couple blocks away from one high school are zoned to a different one due to uneven population growth.

Neighborhoods along the west end of Columbia Pike near Wakefield were briefly under consideration to move them back to Wakefield during the last boundary change, but the neighborhood outcry was so strong there among some of the county’s most vulnerable families, that the Superintendent eliminated that option. And now with Wakefield overcrowded there’s no chance those neighborhoods will be moved under any future study.

If neighborhoods very close to W-L were to be moved to Yorktown in the future, the Superintendent may allow some limited number of neighborhood transfers to W-L as currently allowed for the neighborhoods near Ashlawn ES that weee rezoned to Yorktown. There are always ways to make the system work for proactive families who want a certain outcome.

[Anonymous]

With Wakefield overcrowded it may make sense to rezone Randolph ES which has IB from Wakefield to W-L. That way those neighborhoods would have access to IB from ES through HS.

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Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

I’m in Cherrydale, and live close enough to WL to hear the marching band practice and the PA system during athletic events at the stadium. Hell yes I’d put up a fight if my neighborhood was redistricted to Yorktown so that some kids who live 3 miles away can be bused to WL. If Arlington gets to that point, just get rid of zoned HS and make it all lottery.

Sorry, Woodmont, Maywood, and Cherrydale are the WL neighborhoods closest to Yorktown -- so it makes sense to move them. It would also make Yorktown contiguous. It just happens Yorktown and WL are not that far apart.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/HSZones_Lg.pdf

That’s why the Cherrydale and Waverly Hills planning units north of 66 (only a two to five minute walk to W-L) were under proposed scenarios to move them to Yorktown. It may come up again when boundaries are revisited. Same with Lyon Village which is adjacent to the Yorktown district. Or those west of N Glebe Road. The boundaries just reflect how the population growth is in South Arlington. Some neighborhoods in FCPS and MCPS literally a couple blocks away from one high school are zoned to a different one due to uneven population growth.

Neighborhoods along the west end of Columbia Pike near Wakefield were briefly under consideration to move them back to Wakefield during the last boundary change, but the neighborhood outcry was so strong there among some of the county’s most vulnerable families, that the Superintendent eliminated that option. And now with Wakefield overcrowded there’s no chance those neighborhoods will be moved under any future study.

If neighborhoods very close to W-L were to be moved to Yorktown in the future, the Superintendent may allow some limited number of neighborhood transfers to W-L as currently allowed for the neighborhoods near Ashlawn ES that were rezoned to Yorktown. There are always ways to make the system work for proactive families who want a certain outcome.

Makes more sense to add Lyon Village and planning units west of Glebe to Yorktown then it does Cherrydale or Waverly Hills. Do the new 600 seats at W-L and the rebuild of the career center the care of the overcrowding at Wakefield?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

I’m in Cherrydale, and live close enough to WL to hear the marching band practice and the PA system during athletic events at the stadium. Hell yes I’d put up a fight if my neighborhood was redistricted to Yorktown so that some kids who live 3 miles away can be bused to WL. If Arlington gets to that point, just get rid of zoned HS and make it all lottery.

Sorry, Woodmont, Maywood, and Cherrydale are the WL neighborhoods closest to Yorktown -- so it makes sense to move them. It would also make Yorktown contiguous. It just happens Yorktown and WL are not that far apart.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/HSZones_Lg.pdf

That’s why the Cherrydale and Waverly Hills planning units north of 66 (only a two to five minute walk to W-L) were under proposed scenarios to move them to Yorktown. It may come up again when boundaries are revisited. Same with Lyon Village which is adjacent to the Yorktown district. Or those west of N Glebe Road. The boundaries just reflect how the population growth is in South Arlington. Some neighborhoods in FCPS and MCPS literally a couple blocks away from one high school are zoned to a different one due to uneven population growth.

Neighborhoods along the west end of Columbia Pike near Wakefield were briefly under consideration to move them back to Wakefield during the last boundary change, but the neighborhood outcry was so strong there among some of the county’s most vulnerable families, that the Superintendent eliminated that option. And now with Wakefield overcrowded there’s no chance those neighborhoods will be moved under any future study.

If neighborhoods very close to W-L were to be moved to Yorktown in the future, the Superintendent may allow some limited number of neighborhood transfers to W-L as currently allowed for the neighborhoods near Ashlawn ES that were rezoned to Yorktown. There are always ways to make the system work for proactive families who want a certain outcome.

Makes more sense to add Lyon Village and planning units west of Glebe to Yorktown then it does Cherrydale or Waverly Hills. Do the new 600 seats at W-L and the rebuild of the career center the care of the overcrowding at Wakefield?

Fingers crossed. I don’t know the latest numbers though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

I’m in Cherrydale, and live close enough to WL to hear the marching band practice and the PA system during athletic events at the stadium. Hell yes I’d put up a fight if my neighborhood was redistricted to Yorktown so that some kids who live 3 miles away can be bused to WL. If Arlington gets to that point, just get rid of zoned HS and make it all lottery.

Sorry, Woodmont, Maywood, and Cherrydale are the WL neighborhoods closest to Yorktown -- so it makes sense to move them. It would also make Yorktown contiguous. It just happens Yorktown and WL are not that far apart.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/HSZones_Lg.pdf

That’s why the Cherrydale and Waverly Hills planning units north of 66 (only a two to five minute walk to W-L) were under proposed scenarios to move them to Yorktown. It may come up again when boundaries are revisited. Same with Lyon Village which is adjacent to the Yorktown district. Or those west of N Glebe Road. The boundaries just reflect how the population growth is in South Arlington. Some neighborhoods in FCPS and MCPS literally a couple blocks away from one high school are zoned to a different one due to uneven population growth.

Neighborhoods along the west end of Columbia Pike near Wakefield were briefly under consideration to move them back to Wakefield during the last boundary change, but the neighborhood outcry was so strong there among some of the county’s most vulnerable families, that the Superintendent eliminated that option. And now with Wakefield overcrowded there’s no chance those neighborhoods will be moved under any future study.

If neighborhoods very close to W-L were to be moved to Yorktown in the future, the Superintendent may allow some limited number of neighborhood transfers to W-L as currently allowed for the neighborhoods near Ashlawn ES that were rezoned to Yorktown. There are always ways to make the system work for proactive families who want a certain outcome.

Makes more sense to add Lyon Village and planning units west of Glebe to Yorktown then it does Cherrydale or Waverly Hills. Do the new 600 seats at W-L and the rebuild of the career center the care of the overcrowding at Wakefield?

Fingers crossed. I don’t know the latest numbers though.

MM Fs the numbers don’t worry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

Grudgingly I suppose. W-L zoned neighborhoods that supported increasing W-L’s capacity ended up being redistricted to Yorktown anyways. Some are still upset. The problem is that the current Yorktown boundary is now so close to W-L. Any remaining W-L zoned North Arlington neighborhoods that border the Yorktown zone like Lyon Village or those west of N Glebe Rd may put up a fight to stay at W-L.

But the problem is the uneven growth across the county. South Arlington schools are the ones that are growing.

All those WL neighborhoods upset about having to go to YHS should be pushing for missing middle upzoning housing north of Langston Blvd. As long as the density remains central and south, YHS will remain least crowded and more neighborhoods will need to be redistricted away from their beloved WL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

Haven't laughed so hard in years!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

Haven't laughed so hard in years!

Why is this funny? I thought the orange t shirts originated about WL Pu moving to YHS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

I’m in Cherrydale, and live close enough to WL to hear the marching band practice and the PA system during athletic events at the stadium. Hell yes I’d put up a fight if my neighborhood was redistricted to Yorktown so that some kids who live 3 miles away can be bused to WL. If Arlington gets to that point, just get rid of zoned HS and make it all lottery.

About 1/4 of Cherrydale is already zoned to Yorktown and has been since the 90s when Yorktown was under enrolled. (This is the part of Cherrydale near Dorothy Hamm MS.) The part of Cherrydale adjacent to W-L was also in a number of boundary scenarios where it moved to Yorktown in the last boundary change public engagement process 5 years ago. The school board eventually decided on keeping Cherrydale and Waverly Hills at W-L while moving neighborhoods further north and west to Yorktown.

Re PP’s comment, the kids who live “three miles away” from W-L provide the socio economic diversity. Those kids are not moving back to overcrowded Wakefield.

Maybe the future Arlington Tech school building will solve the South Arlington overcrowding once and for all, but the new building is at least 5-6 years away from completion. I’m cautiously optimistic.

Um....how? AT is not a south Arlington neighborhood school. It is a countywide option program taking students from all of the high schools. It will continue to be a smaller program. You expect Wakefield's portion of those students to compensate for all the increasing residential density in all of south Arlington?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

Haven't laughed so hard in years!

Why is this funny? I thought the orange t shirts originated about WL Pu moving to YHS?

Wrong directions:

The orange shirts were a group of parents who showed up at the High School boundary discussion, all wearing orange shirts (Arlington Forest Pool colors) and argued that their neighborhood needed to stay together at W&L b/c theoretically their kids biked to W&L- but could not bike to the wasteland that is Wakefield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Capstone is to bolster Yorktown and reduce transfer to WL. They need more seats at WL to accommodate flow from Wakefield.

Yes, or many more W-L neighborhoods along the Yorktown border would likely have to be redistricted to Yorktown like Cherrydale, Waycroft Woodlawn, etc. Population growth is in South Arlington and not in the B
North. So makes sense to reduce transfers from Yorktown to W-L and encourage transfers from
Wakefield into W-L

Would neighbors accept moving to Yorktown?

Haven't laughed so hard in years!

Why is this funny? I thought the orange t shirts originated about WL Pu moving to YHS?

No planning unit ever volunteers to move or advocates to be moved from WL. Unless it was a former YHS PU where the families all specifically moved to in order to be at YHS.
Any time APS "considers" relieving crowding at WL by redistricting, WL pushes back. Somehow the WL community expects the crowding to disappear without anyone actually being moved away to another school....or only by moving someone ELSE away.

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Roughly once a decade North Arlington neighborhoods zoned to W-L inevitably get rezoned to Yorktown. Yorktown is low density and the area in the central part of North Arlington and also South Arlington has grown more dense since the late 60s. As the density continues to increase in the neighborhoods near Metro and along Columbia Pike, then expect more W-L neighborhoods to move to Yorktown. It’s inevitable. W-L will then be able to accommodate more students from growing South Arlington.

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Yorktown is mostly white. That is what your friends are really telling you.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - Please don't assume your child will get accepted to IB. This year there is a long waitlist. If more kids apply than there are seats, it is simply a lottery. There is a 60 person waitlist this year. (that is for 9th grade, it looks like if you are willing to transfer later there is no waitlist for 10th or 11th)

There is also neighborhood transfer, this year it was only 20 or 30 seats for 9th grade (I think it was 20 and another 30 seats were for the other 3 grades). There is a long waitlist there too. 0 of the many, many kids I know who applied were able to get transfers from YT to W-L. My son knows of 1. APS did state there was a Wakefield preference for neighborhood transfers due to overcrowding. But I honestly have no idea who the other 19 seats were allocated.

OP, Your kid will do well at either school, or frankly any school in APS. As long are your student applies herself, you are supportive of her, and she able to advocate for herself, YT or W-L will serve her well.

Have your child apply for IB and if that doesn't work, try the neighborhood transfer. If neither work, she'll do great at YT. Much of this is beyond your control, unless you plan to move inbound for W-L so don't stress too much OP.



And for the person who implied zoned kids can just get in to IB, it is not true. All students still need to meet the requirements (I don't remember them all but I know starting a language and 7th and keeping the same one through Sr year is one, and being at least in Algebra 1 in 8th grade is another). Plus they strongly encourage 3 intensified classes Freshman year if the student is considering the IB track. So the prerequisites are the same whether zoned or a transfer.

All W-L students may not be qualified to get the full IB diploma but they can take any IB classes they want. Mix of AP and IB. That's what the PP was referencing was the broader set of choices they have. PP was suggesting policy change such that IB is a program. To that end, I'd love that they change the policy for HB and Tech too. If you go to HB, you go to HB. None of this being allowed to go back to the other schools for classes. It's the best of both worlds piece that is so annoying.

I'm the commenter whose comments you're clarifying - thank you! And I agree with you about the other option programs. These are "CHOICE" programs and that means "choices" have to be made. It's a good lesson for kids to learn, too.

HB parent here and I don't think HB students can go back to their home high schools for classes. If so, I am not aware of it, so can the PP please explain what you are referencing?

HB students can do sports at their home HS, and they can go to classes at the career center, just like any other HS student in APS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yorktown is mostly white. That is what your friends are really telling you.

Yorktown will only grow more wealthy and more white, since the student growth is in the southern part of the county. Boundary changes to accommodate growing south arlington always exacerbate racial or socio economic segregation. The high school boundaries will likely continue to get pushed further south and east. That’s just an unfortunate by product of the county’s residential patterns.

Getting rid of neighborhood schools is the only way to achieve true integration, but that ship sailed years ago. Same with the mythical fourth high school. That ship also sailed.