death at Dunn Loring metro

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have to think 450 feet is a typo. That's the height of a tall building. Even 45 feet is an unusually long leash. I wonder if they meant 4-5 feet (which would be plenty far from the train for a safety check to miss).

It's sad no matter who it is, but somebody traveling at midday with a dog lagging on the end of a long leash may not have been fully aware of what was going on.

Oooooh this is a good point. I didn’t really stop to think just how far 450 feet is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have to think 450 feet is a typo. That's the height of a tall building. Even 45 feet is an unusually long leash. I wonder if they meant 4-5 feet (which would be plenty far from the train for a safety check to miss).

It's sad no matter who it is, but somebody traveling at midday with a dog lagging on the end of a long leash may not have been fully aware of what was going on.

Oooooh this is a good point. I didn’t really stop to think just how far 450 feet is.

No somebody corrected me, it wasn't that far. Thanks PP on pg 3 for clarifying!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have to think 450 feet is a typo. That's the height of a tall building. Even 45 feet is an unusually long leash. I wonder if they meant 4-5 feet (which would be plenty far from the train for a safety check to miss).

It's sad no matter who it is, but somebody traveling at midday with a dog lagging on the end of a long leash may not have been fully aware of what was going on.

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No, the number of feet referred to the distance between the train operator, looking out the cab of the train, and the man, on the platform.

It does NOT refer to the number of feet between the man and his dog.

Yours is the second post making this error and I hope we can stop compounding the error with responses continuing to talk as if there were 450 feet, or even 45 feet or four or five feet, between the man and the dog. Not accurate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have to think 450 feet is a typo. That's the height of a tall building. Even 45 feet is an unusually long leash. I wonder if they meant 4-5 feet (which would be plenty far from the train for a safety check to miss).

It's sad no matter who it is, but somebody traveling at midday with a dog lagging on the end of a long leash may not have been fully aware of what was going on.

It doesn’t say the man was 450 ft from the train, it says the incident happened 450 feet from the operator’s booth, so basically toward the back of the train. At that distance, the operator is not going to see a thin leash in a door so the train would have looked clear to depart from his perspective.

I feel bad for the guy who died (of course!), but also for the train operator. I don't know how the operator would have ever seen a thin leash in the door from that distance, but now they have to live with knowing that someone was dragged to death on their shift.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to think 450 feet is a typo. That's the height of a tall building. Even 45 feet is an unusually long leash. I wonder if they meant 4-5 feet (which would be plenty far from the train for a safety check to miss).

It's sad no matter who it is, but somebody traveling at midday with a dog lagging on the end of a long leash may not have been fully aware of what was going on.

It doesn’t say the man was 450 ft from the train, it says the incident happened 450 feet from the operator’s booth, so basically toward the back of the train. At that distance, the operator is not going to see a thin leash in a door so the train would have looked clear to depart from his perspective.

I feel bad for the guy who died (of course!), but also for the train operator. I don't know how the operator would have ever seen a thin leash in the door from that distance, but now they have to live with knowing that someone was dragged to death on their shift.

I completely agree, and feel sick for the poor operator.

[Anonymous]

This is so sad and tragic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to think 450 feet is a typo. That's the height of a tall building. Even 45 feet is an unusually long leash. I wonder if they meant 4-5 feet (which would be plenty far from the train for a safety check to miss).

It's sad no matter who it is, but somebody traveling at midday with a dog lagging on the end of a long leash may not have been fully aware of what was going on.

It doesn’t say the man was 450 ft from the train, it says the incident happened 450 feet from the operator’s booth, so basically toward the back of the train. At that distance, the operator is not going to see a thin leash in a door so the train would have looked clear to depart from his perspective.

I feel bad for the guy who died (of course!), but also for the train operator. I don't know how the operator would have ever seen a thin leash in the door from that distance, but now they have to live with knowing that someone was dragged to death on their shift.

Being a train operator is a hard job because they deal with this with sad frequency. But when people step in front of the train, at least they do it on purpose. This was just a terrible accident.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to think 450 feet is a typo. That's the height of a tall building. Even 45 feet is an unusually long leash. I wonder if they meant 4-5 feet (which would be plenty far from the train for a safety check to miss).

It's sad no matter who it is, but somebody traveling at midday with a dog lagging on the end of a long leash may not have been fully aware of what was going on.

It doesn’t say the man was 450 ft from the train, it says the incident happened 450 feet from the operator’s booth, so basically toward the back of the train. At that distance, the operator is not going to see a thin leash in a door so the train would have looked clear to depart from his perspective.

I feel bad for the guy who died (of course!), but also for the train operator. I don't know how the operator would have ever seen a thin leash in the door from that distance, but now they have to live with knowing that someone was dragged to death on their shift.

I completely agree, and feel sick for the poor operator.

Same

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm glad the dog is ok. Are they going to find it a home?

???

Silver lining?

The man is dead.

I'm allowed to be glad the dog is ok. Would you rather they both be dead?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How tragic.

I wonder if the door was faulty. They won't usually close if something is detected being in the way.

I would like to know more about the bag. What brand was it? If this is a faulty product, the manufacturer is probably liable for wrongful death.

American way. Blame someone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm glad the dog is ok. Are they going to find it a home?

???

Silver lining?

The man is dead.

I'm allowed to be glad the dog is ok. Would you rather they both be dead?

To be fair, it sounds as though if the dog and the owner had been close together as they departed the train, rather than separated and connected by the long leash, they both would be alive right now and no one would be discussing this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Article says you can only have pets (other than service dogs) if they’re in a secured container from which they can not escape. How did he get on with the dog in the first place?

What makes you think it wasn't a service dog?

This is how people with a legit medical need move in the world with a service animal.

This was a pet. Tragic, but it could have been prevented if the owner was responsible with their pet. And please let's not pretend like this isn't a growing problem.

Nope. there is no one way of what it is supposed to look like if you are speaking about a service dog.

NP
I can absolutely guarantee that a service dog shouldn’t be 450 feet away from its owner.

The article says the dog owner was 450 feet away from the driver, not from the dog. Basically, he was exiting one of the last cars of the train.

Service dogs provide different services. A dog who alerts for seizures for example may sometimes be a few feet away.

That isn’t to say this was a service dog, just to say that not being on a harness isn’t a sign that it wasn’t.

[Anonymous]

It happens rarely but each time it's horrible. Condolences to that poor man and his family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm glad the dog is ok. Are they going to find it a home?

???

Silver lining?

The man is dead.

And the dog led the man to be killed. If he didn't have a dog, the man would be alive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Article says you can only have pets (other than service dogs) if they’re in a secured container from which they can not escape. How did he get on with the dog in the first place?

What makes you think it wasn't a service dog?

This is how people with a legit medical need move in the world with a service animal.

This was a pet. Tragic, but it could have been prevented if the owner was responsible with their pet. And please let's not pretend like this isn't a growing problem.

Nope. there is no one way of what it is supposed to look like if you are speaking about a service dog.

NP
I can absolutely guarantee that a service dog shouldn’t be 450 feet away from its owner.

The article says the dog owner was 450 feet away from the driver, not from the dog. Basically, he was exiting one of the last cars of the train.

Service dogs provide different services. A dog who alerts for seizures for example may sometimes be a few feet away.

That isn’t to say this was a service dog, just to say that not being on a harness isn’t a sign that it wasn’t.

A service dog a few feet away from its owner/handler outdoors going for a walk, is one thing. But indoors, the service animal should be right beside and within arms reach of its person. This is common sense safety. And of course, pets shouldn't be brought in stores or public transportation anyway unless fully restrained or contained.

I'm not saying the punishment for owner negligence should be death, but this was preventable due to the owner's own negligence. WAY too many dog owners these days are completely irresponsible.