Getting into club / year round swimming

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are different things being discussed- are they plenty of area clubs that will happily take swimmers who want to swim somewhere between 2-3 days a week? Yes, absolutely. Can those same swimmers make JO cuts? eh- maybe, probably not especially as they get older. If your goal is to have a JO cut as a 10 or 12 year old, then go all in and swim 4-5 days a week. If your goal is to have a happy well rounded kid, who enjoys swimming and also enjoys other things? Then swim 2 days a week, do other things too- let the kid decide when they want to start swimming more. There is plenty of research to show that swimming performance before puberty doesn't tell you much about what will happen post puberty.


Which clubs offer swimmers 2-3 days/week, for 12 and up? People make it sound like there’s no middle ground for clubs and if there are other options, I’d love to hear about them. Toll is expensive AF and the practice times are very limited. If the choice is between larger clubs and small, expensive ones with limited options, that’s not much of a choice. Maybe we’ll just have to take what we can get.

Most clubs seem to use 12 as a cutoff mark and then there are different programs for 13 and over. We are with NCAP and there is a HS group that is geared toward the kids that like swim but have other activities or are not quite good enough for the more intense HS groups, they don’t have to practice more than 3x a week.
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Anonymous wrote:I think there are different things being discussed- are they plenty of area clubs that will happily take swimmers who want to swim somewhere between 2-3 days a week? Yes, absolutely. Can those same swimmers make JO cuts? eh- maybe, probably not especially as they get older. If your goal is to have a JO cut as a 10 or 12 year old, then go all in and swim 4-5 days a week. If your goal is to have a happy well rounded kid, who enjoys swimming and also enjoys other things? Then swim 2 days a week, do other things too- let the kid decide when they want to start swimming more. There is plenty of research to show that swimming performance before puberty doesn't tell you much about what will happen post puberty.


Which clubs offer swimmers 2-3 days/week, for 12 and up? People make it sound like there’s no middle ground for clubs and if there are other options, I’d love to hear about them. Toll is expensive AF and the practice times are very limited. If the choice is between larger clubs and small, expensive ones with limited options, that’s not much of a choice. Maybe we’ll just have to take what we can get.

Most clubs seem to use 12 as a cutoff mark and then there are different programs for 13 and over. We are with NCAP and there is a HS group that is geared toward the kids that like swim but have other activities or are not quite good enough for the more intense HS groups, they don’t have to practice more than 3x a week.


This is how RMSC is that you go to seniors at age 13. You can do 2-3 days a week but it's usually expected you do 4+ days a week at that age, preferably 5-6. Private clubs may be more flexible. Its also much harder to get into RMSC as a senior but I know several kids who have done it.
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Anonymous wrote:I think there are different things being discussed- are they plenty of area clubs that will happily take swimmers who want to swim somewhere between 2-3 days a week? Yes, absolutely. Can those same swimmers make JO cuts? eh- maybe, probably not especially as they get older. If your goal is to have a JO cut as a 10 or 12 year old, then go all in and swim 4-5 days a week. If your goal is to have a happy well rounded kid, who enjoys swimming and also enjoys other things? Then swim 2 days a week, do other things too- let the kid decide when they want to start swimming more. There is plenty of research to show that swimming performance before puberty doesn't tell you much about what will happen post puberty.


Which clubs offer swimmers 2-3 days/week, for 12 and up? People make it sound like there’s no middle ground for clubs and if there are other options, I’d love to hear about them. Toll is expensive AF and the practice times are very limited. If the choice is between larger clubs and small, expensive ones with limited options, that’s not much of a choice. Maybe we’ll just have to take what we can get.


I don't know many clubs with 2-3 days/week once a kid is 12 or 13. It usually becomes a 5-6 day/2 hours a week practice scenario.
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Anonymous wrote:I think there are different things being discussed- are they plenty of area clubs that will happily take swimmers who want to swim somewhere between 2-3 days a week? Yes, absolutely. Can those same swimmers make JO cuts? eh- maybe, probably not especially as they get older. If your goal is to have a JO cut as a 10 or 12 year old, then go all in and swim 4-5 days a week. If your goal is to have a happy well rounded kid, who enjoys swimming and also enjoys other things? Then swim 2 days a week, do other things too- let the kid decide when they want to start swimming more. There is plenty of research to show that swimming performance before puberty doesn't tell you much about what will happen post puberty.


This is true. Watching this right now at our club. A phenom swimmer at 10-12, is losing the phenom. Still good, but all the kids going through puberty are now right there as well when there used to be a huge difference. What I don't know is that a lot of the girls have gone through puberty and although tall now for their age look like that they will all be 5'4" and under. Meanwhile there is a group of swimmers that are the same age and almost as fast/faster than the current giants. Do the current short ones end up surpassing their peers once they hit puberty? Puberty not only adds height but muscle and strength.


Puberty is not always kind to girls who are strong and fast early. They often have a build that starts to work against them as they gain body fat and curves. It’s easy for them to swim faster than the girls who are taller and scrawnier pre-puberty, but things change as the scrawny girls put on just the right amount of mass to long and lean. For boys it can be the kid who is big or muscular for their age who dominates initially, but then stops growing early. Tall and skinny with a good work ethic and good feel for the water is probably the most likely to have success after puberty.
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Anonymous wrote:I think there are different things being discussed- are they plenty of area clubs that will happily take swimmers who want to swim somewhere between 2-3 days a week? Yes, absolutely. Can those same swimmers make JO cuts? eh- maybe, probably not especially as they get older. If your goal is to have a JO cut as a 10 or 12 year old, then go all in and swim 4-5 days a week. If your goal is to have a happy well rounded kid, who enjoys swimming and also enjoys other things? Then swim 2 days a week, do other things too- let the kid decide when they want to start swimming more. There is plenty of research to show that swimming performance before puberty doesn't tell you much about what will happen post puberty.


Which clubs offer swimmers 2-3 days/week, for 12 and up? People make it sound like there’s no middle ground for clubs and if there are other options, I’d love to hear about them. Toll is expensive AF and the practice times are very limited. If the choice is between larger clubs and small, expensive ones with limited options, that’s not much of a choice. Maybe we’ll just have to take what we can get.

Most clubs seem to use 12 as a cutoff mark and then there are different programs for 13 and over. We are with NCAP and there is a HS group that is geared toward the kids that like swim but have other activities or are not quite good enough for the more intense HS groups, they don’t have to practice more than 3x a week.


This is how RMSC is that you go to seniors at age 13. You can do 2-3 days a week but it's usually expected you do 4+ days a week at that age, preferably 5-6. Private clubs may be more flexible. Its also much harder to get into RMSC as a senior but I know several kids who have done it.


What schedule is typical in RMSC seniors? Everyone I know in the group is a 2-3d swimmer.
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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid is begging to club swim, don’t do it. Too much training, not good for them. I am so sorry I let my kid go down this road (and I have a kid who loves to swim). Not worth it.
depends on the club. My 10yo swims twice a week for an hour each time. It’s good exercise and she likes it. She doesn’t have A times or even B times and I’m ok with that….. it’s your attitude too that matters..


It will vary per club. Since you are starting out, look for a club that has flexibility versus a rigid you must do this type of attitude/schedule. There are those clubs out there. Ask questions about requirements and make sure that both you and your child feel comfortable with what the club is asking.

+1, this area actually has a lot of low key clubs where there is not the expectation that your kid needs to be in the water 5 days a week once they hit middle school. If your child wants to do swimming as their second sport, there are clubs where this is feasible. Does that work at say NCAP, no, but there are clubs where you can have that balance. And conversely, there are clubs where if your child is talented and committed to swimming they can train at a higher level. Swim is not one size fits all, and we are lucky in this area to have so many options to choose from depending on your kid’s ability and level of commitment.


Could you all name the clubs? Because I have looked and I can’t find any in Maryland for kids making JO cuts who can stay at a 4 day schedule in 7th and 8th grade. I looked at NCAP, RMSC, ASA. Maybe sea devils or Toll, though I have heard those clubs will push too? There seems to be low key programs but if your kid is making cuts pretty easily, they don’t mesh with the more restrained groups. Would love to find a balanced program for kids who show potential but want to keep the time in the water manageable.


http://pvswim.org/pvs_club.htm

Here is the list of all the PVS clubs. This covers the metro region. If you are located somewhere where you are willing to go further out Maryland Swimming should have a similar list. PVS (Potomac Valley Swimming), Maryland Swimming, and Virginia Swimming are "LSCs" which is the competitive region in which clubs belong under the USA Swimming umbrella.

Some of the practice allowances will be coach to coach also. My kids were able to be in the top group at RMSC, playing a second sport through 8th grade. A lot of weeks this meant 4 practices rather than 5 which was the general expectation. Their coach's philosophy was "if that's what it takes to keep them swimming this year, great" and the expectation was they would decide for 9th grade.
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Anonymous wrote:I think there are different things being discussed- are they plenty of area clubs that will happily take swimmers who want to swim somewhere between 2-3 days a week? Yes, absolutely. Can those same swimmers make JO cuts? eh- maybe, probably not especially as they get older. If your goal is to have a JO cut as a 10 or 12 year old, then go all in and swim 4-5 days a week. If your goal is to have a happy well rounded kid, who enjoys swimming and also enjoys other things? Then swim 2 days a week, do other things too- let the kid decide when they want to start swimming more. There is plenty of research to show that swimming performance before puberty doesn't tell you much about what will happen post puberty.


Which clubs offer swimmers 2-3 days/week, for 12 and up? People make it sound like there’s no middle ground for clubs and if there are other options, I’d love to hear about them. Toll is expensive AF and the practice times are very limited. If the choice is between larger clubs and small, expensive ones with limited options, that’s not much of a choice. Maybe we’ll just have to take what we can get.

Most clubs seem to use 12 as a cutoff mark and then there are different programs for 13 and over. We are with NCAP and there is a HS group that is geared toward the kids that like swim but have other activities or are not quite good enough for the more intense HS groups, they don’t have to practice more than 3x a week.


This is how RMSC is that you go to seniors at age 13. You can do 2-3 days a week but it's usually expected you do 4+ days a week at that age, preferably 5-6. Private clubs may be more flexible. Its also much harder to get into RMSC as a senior but I know several kids who have done it.


What schedule is typical in RMSC seniors? Everyone I know in the group is a 2-3d swimmer.


the schedules are on the RMSC website and varies by location. Ours is 3 afternoons a week, 2-3 mornings a week (we only do weekend mornings). It's rare to have 2-3 days, usually at least 4. We'd do more if it wasn't so early and other activities.
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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid is begging to club swim, don’t do it. Too much training, not good for them. I am so sorry I let my kid go down this road (and I have a kid who loves to swim). Not worth it.
depends on the club. My 10yo swims twice a week for an hour each time. It’s good exercise and she likes it. She doesn’t have A times or even B times and I’m ok with that….. it’s your attitude too that matters..


It will vary per club. Since you are starting out, look for a club that has flexibility versus a rigid you must do this type of attitude/schedule. There are those clubs out there. Ask questions about requirements and make sure that both you and your child feel comfortable with what the club is asking.

+1, this area actually has a lot of low key clubs where there is not the expectation that your kid needs to be in the water 5 days a week once they hit middle school. If your child wants to do swimming as their second sport, there are clubs where this is feasible. Does that work at say NCAP, no, but there are clubs where you can have that balance. And conversely, there are clubs where if your child is talented and committed to swimming they can train at a higher level. Swim is not one size fits all, and we are lucky in this area to have so many options to choose from depending on your kid’s ability and level of commitment.


Could you all name the clubs? Because I have looked and I can’t find any in Maryland for kids making JO cuts who can stay at a 4 day schedule in 7th and 8th grade. I looked at NCAP, RMSC, ASA. Maybe sea devils or Toll, though I have heard those clubs will push too? There seems to be low key programs but if your kid is making cuts pretty easily, they don’t mesh with the more restrained groups. Would love to find a balanced program for kids who show potential but want to keep the time in the water manageable.


http://pvswim.org/pvs_club.htm

Here is the list of all the PVS clubs. This covers the metro region. If you are located somewhere where you are willing to go further out Maryland Swimming should have a similar list. PVS (Potomac Valley Swimming), Maryland Swimming, and Virginia Swimming are "LSCs" which is the competitive region in which clubs belong under the USA Swimming umbrella.

Some of the practice allowances will be coach to coach also. My kids were able to be in the top group at RMSC, playing a second sport through 8th grade. A lot of weeks this meant 4 practices rather than 5 which was the general expectation. Their coach's philosophy was "if that's what it takes to keep them swimming this year, great" and the expectation was they would decide for 9th grade.


Agree coach to coach perspective changes things. I have known coaches that allow kids to miss practice for certain sports (soccer, track, etc) but not for other activities. So it depends on the club and the coaches. I also think you need to just try club and see if your kid even likes it.
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Anonymous wrote:I think there are different things being discussed- are they plenty of area clubs that will happily take swimmers who want to swim somewhere between 2-3 days a week? Yes, absolutely. Can those same swimmers make JO cuts? eh- maybe, probably not especially as they get older. If your goal is to have a JO cut as a 10 or 12 year old, then go all in and swim 4-5 days a week. If your goal is to have a happy well rounded kid, who enjoys swimming and also enjoys other things? Then swim 2 days a week, do other things too- let the kid decide when they want to start swimming more. There is plenty of research to show that swimming performance before puberty doesn't tell you much about what will happen post puberty.


Which clubs offer swimmers 2-3 days/week, for 12 and up? People make it sound like there’s no middle ground for clubs and if there are other options, I’d love to hear about them. Toll is expensive AF and the practice times are very limited. If the choice is between larger clubs and small, expensive ones with limited options, that’s not much of a choice. Maybe we’ll just have to take what we can get.

Most clubs seem to use 12 as a cutoff mark and then there are different programs for 13 and over. We are with NCAP and there is a HS group that is geared toward the kids that like swim but have other activities or are not quite good enough for the more intense HS groups, they don’t have to practice more than 3x a week.


This is how RMSC is that you go to seniors at age 13. You can do 2-3 days a week but it's usually expected you do 4+ days a week at that age, preferably 5-6. Private clubs may be more flexible. Its also much harder to get into RMSC as a senior but I know several kids who have done it.


What schedule is typical in RMSC seniors? Everyone I know in the group is a 2-3d swimmer.


the schedules are on the RMSC website and varies by location. Ours is 3 afternoons a week, 2-3 mornings a week (we only do weekend mornings). It's rare to have 2-3 days, usually at least 4. We'd do more if it wasn't so early and other activities.

The basic senior group (not an advanced seniors group) description says 3 practices per week.
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Anonymous wrote:I think there are different things being discussed- are they plenty of area clubs that will happily take swimmers who want to swim somewhere between 2-3 days a week? Yes, absolutely. Can those same swimmers make JO cuts? eh- maybe, probably not especially as they get older. If your goal is to have a JO cut as a 10 or 12 year old, then go all in and swim 4-5 days a week. If your goal is to have a happy well rounded kid, who enjoys swimming and also enjoys other things? Then swim 2 days a week, do other things too- let the kid decide when they want to start swimming more. There is plenty of research to show that swimming performance before puberty doesn't tell you much about what will happen post puberty.


Which clubs offer swimmers 2-3 days/week, for 12 and up? People make it sound like there’s no middle ground for clubs and if there are other options, I’d love to hear about them. Toll is expensive AF and the practice times are very limited. If the choice is between larger clubs and small, expensive ones with limited options, that’s not much of a choice. Maybe we’ll just have to take what we can get.

Most clubs seem to use 12 as a cutoff mark and then there are different programs for 13 and over. We are with NCAP and there is a HS group that is geared toward the kids that like swim but have other activities or are not quite good enough for the more intense HS groups, they don’t have to practice more than 3x a week.


This is how RMSC is that you go to seniors at age 13. You can do 2-3 days a week but it's usually expected you do 4+ days a week at that age, preferably 5-6. Private clubs may be more flexible. Its also much harder to get into RMSC as a senior but I know several kids who have done it.


What schedule is typical in RMSC seniors? Everyone I know in the group is a 2-3d swimmer.


the schedules are on the RMSC website and varies by location. Ours is 3 afternoons a week, 2-3 mornings a week (we only do weekend mornings). It's rare to have 2-3 days, usually at least 4. We'd do more if it wasn't so early and other activities.


Interesting. I know the schedule, but every kid I know in the group is in that group because they want just enough swimming to keep it up for HS or summer or because they enjoy it, but have another sport. When they have time they may do extra, but the "typical" schedule of those I know is 2-3d per week, so I was wondering if that is just who I know. It sounds like even though the minimum is 2d, kids feel pressure to attend more? That is not what I understood as the philosophy/purpose of the group.
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Anonymous wrote:I think there are different things being discussed- are they plenty of area clubs that will happily take swimmers who want to swim somewhere between 2-3 days a week? Yes, absolutely. Can those same swimmers make JO cuts? eh- maybe, probably not especially as they get older. If your goal is to have a JO cut as a 10 or 12 year old, then go all in and swim 4-5 days a week. If your goal is to have a happy well rounded kid, who enjoys swimming and also enjoys other things? Then swim 2 days a week, do other things too- let the kid decide when they want to start swimming more. There is plenty of research to show that swimming performance before puberty doesn't tell you much about what will happen post puberty.


Which clubs offer swimmers 2-3 days/week, for 12 and up? People make it sound like there’s no middle ground for clubs and if there are other options, I’d love to hear about them. Toll is expensive AF and the practice times are very limited. If the choice is between larger clubs and small, expensive ones with limited options, that’s not much of a choice. Maybe we’ll just have to take what we can get.


I don't know many clubs with 2-3 days/week once a kid is 12 or 13. It usually becomes a 5-6 day/2 hours a week practice scenario.


York has plenty of 2-3 days a week option for kids who are 9 and up and 11 and up.
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Anonymous wrote:I think there are different things being discussed- are they plenty of area clubs that will happily take swimmers who want to swim somewhere between 2-3 days a week? Yes, absolutely. Can those same swimmers make JO cuts? eh- maybe, probably not especially as they get older. If your goal is to have a JO cut as a 10 or 12 year old, then go all in and swim 4-5 days a week. If your goal is to have a happy well rounded kid, who enjoys swimming and also enjoys other things? Then swim 2 days a week, do other things too- let the kid decide when they want to start swimming more. There is plenty of research to show that swimming performance before puberty doesn't tell you much about what will happen post puberty.


Which clubs offer swimmers 2-3 days/week, for 12 and up? People make it sound like there’s no middle ground for clubs and if there are other options, I’d love to hear about them. Toll is expensive AF and the practice times are very limited. If the choice is between larger clubs and small, expensive ones with limited options, that’s not much of a choice. Maybe we’ll just have to take what we can get.


I don't know many clubs with 2-3 days/week once a kid is 12 or 13. It usually becomes a 5-6 day/2 hours a week practice scenario.


York has plenty of 2-3 days a week option for kids who are 9 and up and 11 and up.

There are actually a lot of clubs that have 13 and over options that is not 5-6 days week. What the poster asking about this is not going to find though is one of the advanced training groups letting a kid practice only 2-3 times a week.
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Anonymous wrote:I think there are different things being discussed- are they plenty of area clubs that will happily take swimmers who want to swim somewhere between 2-3 days a week? Yes, absolutely. Can those same swimmers make JO cuts? eh- maybe, probably not especially as they get older. If your goal is to have a JO cut as a 10 or 12 year old, then go all in and swim 4-5 days a week. If your goal is to have a happy well rounded kid, who enjoys swimming and also enjoys other things? Then swim 2 days a week, do other things too- let the kid decide when they want to start swimming more. There is plenty of research to show that swimming performance before puberty doesn't tell you much about what will happen post puberty.


Which clubs offer swimmers 2-3 days/week, for 12 and up? People make it sound like there’s no middle ground for clubs and if there are other options, I’d love to hear about them. Toll is expensive AF and the practice times are very limited. If the choice is between larger clubs and small, expensive ones with limited options, that’s not much of a choice. Maybe we’ll just have to take what we can get.

Most clubs seem to use 12 as a cutoff mark and then there are different programs for 13 and over. We are with NCAP and there is a HS group that is geared toward the kids that like swim but have other activities or are not quite good enough for the more intense HS groups, they don’t have to practice more than 3x a week.


Interesting - thanks. DD (11) is going to try out this summer for RMSC and probably also Machine. She’s got absurdly long limbs and is tall but hasn’t yet hit her pre-puberty growth spurt, so I’m curious to see how it plays out. DH and I are on the more muscle-y side, so I’m not sure where these genes are coming from!
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Anonymous wrote:I think there are different things being discussed- are they plenty of area clubs that will happily take swimmers who want to swim somewhere between 2-3 days a week? Yes, absolutely. Can those same swimmers make JO cuts? eh- maybe, probably not especially as they get older. If your goal is to have a JO cut as a 10 or 12 year old, then go all in and swim 4-5 days a week. If your goal is to have a happy well rounded kid, who enjoys swimming and also enjoys other things? Then swim 2 days a week, do other things too- let the kid decide when they want to start swimming more. There is plenty of research to show that swimming performance before puberty doesn't tell you much about what will happen post puberty.


Which clubs offer swimmers 2-3 days/week, for 12 and up? People make it sound like there’s no middle ground for clubs and if there are other options, I’d love to hear about them. Toll is expensive AF and the practice times are very limited. If the choice is between larger clubs and small, expensive ones with limited options, that’s not much of a choice. Maybe we’ll just have to take what we can get.


I don't know many clubs with 2-3 days/week once a kid is 12 or 13. It usually becomes a 5-6 day/2 hours a week practice scenario.


PAC is fine with 2-3 days/week for older kids. Lots of kids who swim for fun and aren't uber competitive. Perfect environment for my kid who likes to swim,but doesn't want to eat/sleep/breathe it. He is never going to be recruited, might swim on a college club team for fun, and enjoys the social/fitness aspects of it.
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Anonymous wrote:I think there are different things being discussed- are they plenty of area clubs that will happily take swimmers who want to swim somewhere between 2-3 days a week? Yes, absolutely. Can those same swimmers make JO cuts? eh- maybe, probably not especially as they get older. If your goal is to have a JO cut as a 10 or 12 year old, then go all in and swim 4-5 days a week. If your goal is to have a happy well rounded kid, who enjoys swimming and also enjoys other things? Then swim 2 days a week, do other things too- let the kid decide when they want to start swimming more. There is plenty of research to show that swimming performance before puberty doesn't tell you much about what will happen post puberty.


Which clubs offer swimmers 2-3 days/week, for 12 and up? People make it sound like there’s no middle ground for clubs and if there are other options, I’d love to hear about them. Toll is expensive AF and the practice times are very limited. If the choice is between larger clubs and small, expensive ones with limited options, that’s not much of a choice. Maybe we’ll just have to take what we can get.

Most clubs seem to use 12 as a cutoff mark and then there are different programs for 13 and over. We are with NCAP and there is a HS group that is geared toward the kids that like swim but have other activities or are not quite good enough for the more intense HS groups, they don’t have to practice more than 3x a week.


This is how RMSC is that you go to seniors at age 13. You can do 2-3 days a week but it's usually expected you do 4+ days a week at that age, preferably 5-6. Private clubs may be more flexible. Its also much harder to get into RMSC as a senior but I know several kids who have done it.


What schedule is typical in RMSC seniors? Everyone I know in the group is a 2-3d swimmer.


the schedules are on the RMSC website and varies by location. Ours is 3 afternoons a week, 2-3 mornings a week (we only do weekend mornings). It's rare to have 2-3 days, usually at least 4. We'd do more if it wasn't so early and other activities.


Interesting. I know the schedule, but every kid I know in the group is in that group because they want just enough swimming to keep it up for HS or summer or because they enjoy it, but have another sport. When they have time they may do extra, but the "typical" schedule of those I know is 2-3d per week, so I was wondering if that is just who I know. It sounds like even though the minimum is 2d, kids feel pressure to attend more? That is not what I understood as the philosophy/purpose of the group.


Are you talking a private group or RMSC? Most RMSC do 4-5 days a week. We get zero pressure but its an expectation and if your child is only doing the minimum it would be very very hard to get into RMSC Seniors at that age except pure luck of no one else applying.
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