Alexandria City Grant for POC Stopped by Lawsuit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Leave it to the people in my race to be incredibly offended at another group of people who want to have a equitable shot at life

You're free to propose all the low income grant programs you'd like to deal with equity. But governments picking and choosing people for special treatment because of their genes is evil and unconstitutional. We know that from thousands of years of history, including our own. It's not a question of "offense."

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Anonymous wrote:It turns out you can't take taxpayer money and allocate it only for use by black people.

Who'd have thunk?

https://www.alexandriava.gov/BIPOC

NOTICE: On January 23, 2023, the City was served with a lawsuit challenging the BIPOC Small Business Grant Program. Applications were set to open on January 26; however, we are postponing the application process while we review the lawsuit. Despite this delay, the City remains committed to supporting our minority small business community and promoting equity for all. Please send all inquiries to [e-mail].

Interesting OP you would only single out Black people. The grant was for BIPOC. Show us your sheets without showing us your sheets. We know, you hate Black people.

I'll play. What, do you think, are the percentages of blacks versus indigenous people in the City of Alexandria?

Alexandria's definition of BIPOC wasn't black or indigenous, it was everyone but white people.

I was responding to the PP above implying that the other PP must hate blacks to oppose this. But non blacks were included too. Just whites were excluded. The non black BIPOCt represanet a teeny fraction of the population. So they were being intentionally bigoted while supposedly preaching for diversity.

Who cares anyway? Its not like the Alexandria blacks run any worthwhile businesses.

Dude... don't wear your ignorance so proudly.

Prove the consitution wrong. Prove that a single black business in this town is worthy of special treatment.

Nice try. I was referring to the "Its (sic) not like the Alexandria blacks run any worthwhile businesses." I wasn't advocating for this silly grant program, but I do know for a fact the comment I was responding to is incorrect.

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Anonymous wrote:It turns out you can't take taxpayer money and allocate it only for use by black people.

Who'd have thunk?

https://www.alexandriava.gov/BIPOC

NOTICE: On January 23, 2023, the City was served with a lawsuit challenging the BIPOC Small Business Grant Program. Applications were set to open on January 26; however, we are postponing the application process while we review the lawsuit. Despite this delay, the City remains committed to supporting our minority small business community and promoting equity for all. Please send all inquiries to [e-mail].

Interesting OP you would only single out Black people. The grant was for BIPOC. Show us your sheets without showing us your sheets. We know, you hate Black people.

I'll play. What, do you think, are the percentages of blacks versus indigenous people in the City of Alexandria?

Alexandria's definition of BIPOC wasn't black or indigenous, it was everyone but white people.

I was responding to the PP above implying that the other PP must hate blacks to oppose this. But non blacks were included too. Just whites were excluded. The non black BIPOCt represanet a teeny fraction of the population. So they were being intentionally bigoted while supposedly preaching for diversity.

Who cares anyway? Its not like the Alexandria blacks run any worthwhile businesses.

Dude... don't wear your ignorance so proudly.

Prove the consitution wrong. Prove that a single black business in this town is worthy of special treatment.

I don't think you get it. Alexandria wasn't promoting black businesses, they were going to subsidize anyone's business unless the owner was non-Hispanic white. It was excluding all people of a very specific race.

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Worse

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.alxnow.com/2023/02/16/alexandria-cancels-grant-program-for-minority-owned-businesses-after-lawsuit/

So the People's Republic of Alexandria has decided the shelve the minority-owned business grants because, well, they are unlawful. It's astounding how far down the road they allowed themselves to get despite the blatant illegality of such an approach.

"The Washington Post reported that Alexandria officials admitted that the grant criteria as written was a violation of the 14th Amendment, but that the city would work to find other ways to help minority business owners disproportionately impacted by the pandemic."

Once the lawsuit was filed, it was always going to end this way. It was an obviously unconstitutional program that was completely indefensible.

I still do wonder what their goal was. Upthread speculation was that they were trying to entice Mirales and Youngkin into responding. Perhaps they just thought that they would try to get away with it for as long as they could until someone complained? I have no idea. But there needs to be some public accountability for how this program made it this far. Under the law, it is no different if this was a BIPOC or “whites only” grant program. The accountability for doing either should be the same.

As a previous resident of the City, I think their thinking was far more basic. The City is very liberal and very supportive of any idea of something that is woke. They likely figured there would be no objection.

[Anonymous]

The city attorney, Joanna Anderson and the city manager, James Parajon need to answer for this. The city has admitted they knew that this program was a violation of the 14th amendment. Why did Anderson and Parajon agree to go forward with this?

It seems obvious why Wilson, Chapman, Gaskins and the rest of the council wanted this. But Anderson and Parajon are actually in charge and just had to admit that they are completely incompetent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The city attorney, Joanna Anderson and the city manager, James Parajon need to answer for this. The city has admitted they knew that this program was a violation of the 14th amendment. Why did Anderson and Parajon agree to go forward with this?

It seems obvious why Wilson, Chapman, Gaskins and the rest of the council wanted this. But Anderson and Parajon are actually in charge and just had to admit that they are completely incompetent.

Can they be disbarred? Can a 'normal' citizen file an ethics complaint with the state?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The city attorney, Joanna Anderson and the city manager, James Parajon need to answer for this. The city has admitted they knew that this program was a violation of the 14th amendment. Why did Anderson and Parajon agree to go forward with this?

It seems obvious why Wilson, Chapman, Gaskins and the rest of the council wanted this. But Anderson and Parajon are actually in charge and just had to admit that they are completely incompetent.

Can they be disbarred? Can a 'normal' citizen file an ethics complaint with the state?

What would be the basis of your complaint?

[Anonymous]

Well, they admitted to knowingly violated the law. Not the PP but that could be a good place to start.

At the minimum, the city attorney and the city manager need to explain that process & why they proceeded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, they admitted to knowingly violated the law. Not the PP but that could be a good place to start.

At the minimum, the city attorney and the city manager need to explain that process & why they proceeded.

100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, they admitted to knowingly violated the law. Not the PP but that could be a good place to start.

At the minimum, the city attorney and the city manager need to explain that process & why they proceeded.

You're assuming progressive politicians run their ideas through counsel. In FCPS they don't so I wouldn't be surprised if they skip legal review here as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, they admitted to knowingly violated the law. Not the PP but that could be a good place to start.

At the minimum, the city attorney and the city manager need to explain that process & why they proceeded.

You're assuming progressive politicians run their ideas through counsel. In FCPS they don't so I wouldn't be surprised if they skip legal review here as well.

I don't assume that at all but this wasn't just an idea. This grant program had real money behind it and a process already in place when it was launched. Anderson and Parajon are responsible, they need to answer for it. And if they didn't have knowledge, why were didn't they? How did this happen without their knowledge? Should they keep their jobs if they are either this lawless or inept? If they didn't know, who kept it from them? What steps did they take when they found out?

In another city this would rightly be a huge scandal. Frankly, they are lucky that Alexandrians prefer to have their heads stuck in the sand. This reveals a serious degree of corruption.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, they admitted to knowingly violated the law. Not the PP but that could be a good place to start.

At the minimum, the city attorney and the city manager need to explain that process & why they proceeded.

You're assuming progressive politicians run their ideas through counsel. In FCPS they don't so I wouldn't be surprised if they skip legal review here as well.

I don't assume that at all but this wasn't just an idea. This grant program had real money behind it and a process already in place when it was launched. Anderson and Parajon are responsible, they need to answer for it. And if they didn't have knowledge, why were didn't they? How did this happen without their knowledge? Should they keep their jobs if they are either this lawless or inept? If they didn't know, who kept it from them? What steps did they take when they found out?

In another city this would rightly be a huge scandal. Frankly, they are lucky that Alexandrians prefer to have their heads stuck in the sand. This reveals a serious degree of corruption.

It's pathetic, just like the fat ass SAHMs in Rosemont.