New bike lane on Old Georgetown Rd in Bethesda

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they not doing more to encourage cyclists to utilize the very nice and adjacent trolley trail? What is the point of the trolley trail in the first place if not for use by bicycles instead of promoting cyclists to ride on a state highway.

Plenty of people use the Trolley Trail to go where the Trolley Trail goes, which is different from where Old Georgetown Road goes. Might as well ask why they are not doing more to encourage drivers to utilize the very nice and adjacent Rockville Pike instead of Old Georgetown Road.

The trolley trail runs directly adjacent to MD355 through that area.

The sidewalk on the east side of Rockville Pike between Nicholson and Bou has "Trolley Trail" signs. Is that the area you're referring to? I don't understand how that's relevant to Old Georgetown Road, though.

Thanks for demonstrating a lack of knowledge of the area that you are so opinionated about. LOL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are they not doing more to encourage cyclists to utilize the very nice and adjacent trolley trail? What is the point of the trolley trail in the first place if not for use by bicycles instead of promoting cyclists to ride on a state highway.

Plenty of people use the Trolley Trail to go where the Trolley Trail goes, which is different from where Old Georgetown Road goes. Might as well ask why they are not doing more to encourage drivers to utilize the very nice and adjacent Rockville Pike instead of Old Georgetown Road.

The trolley trail runs directly adjacent to MD355 through that area.

The sidewalk on the east side of Rockville Pike between Nicholson and Bou has "Trolley Trail" signs. Is that the area you're referring to? I don't understand how that's relevant to Old Georgetown Road, though.

Thanks for demonstrating a lack of knowledge of the area that you are so opinionated about. LOL.

Then you need to explain which "that area" you're talking about. The new bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road are supposed to go from Ryland to Nicholson. The Trolley Trail does not run directly adjacent to 355 there. It also doesn't run directly adjacent to Old Georgetown Road. Maybe you can explain how someone should go by bike on the Trolley Trail from Woodward High School to the Wildwood shopping center, or from Rock Spring to the Wyngate neighborhood, or from the Wyngate neighborhood to the Y.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are they not doing more to encourage cyclists to utilize the very nice and adjacent trolley trail? What is the point of the trolley trail in the first place if not for use by bicycles instead of promoting cyclists to ride on a state highway.

Plenty of people use the Trolley Trail to go where the Trolley Trail goes, which is different from where Old Georgetown Road goes. Might as well ask why they are not doing more to encourage drivers to utilize the very nice and adjacent Rockville Pike instead of Old Georgetown Road.

The trolley trail runs directly adjacent to MD355 through that area.

The sidewalk on the east side of Rockville Pike between Nicholson and Bou has "Trolley Trail" signs. Is that the area you're referring to? I don't understand how that's relevant to Old Georgetown Road, though.

Thanks for demonstrating a lack of knowledge of the area that you are so opinionated about. LOL.

Then you need to explain which "that area" you're talking about. The new bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road are supposed to go from Ryland to Nicholson. The Trolley Trail does not run directly adjacent to 355 there. It also doesn't run directly adjacent to Old Georgetown Road. Maybe you can explain how someone should go by bike on the Trolley Trail from Woodward High School to the Wildwood shopping center, or from Rock Spring to the Wyngate neighborhood, or from the Wyngate neighborhood to the Y.

The trolley trail runs adjacent 187. That’s the point. That’s why a protected bike lane is not needed. You can ride from Pike & Rose straight to downtown Bethesda in complete safety and in a relaxing environment. You can also easily access shopping areas from the trail coming from a much safer direction in residential neighborhoods and away from a state highway. Theses bike lanes have no point. They also would not have stopped at least one of the recent fatalities because the kid unfortunately lost his balance and fell in the road. Same thing can happen from a sidewalk as a protected bike lane.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If nothing else, the narrower lanes force drivers to slow down. Parts of old Georgetown road are only 35 miles an hour But people tear through it like it is a highway

“Like it’s a Highway”? It’s literally a State Highway!

Highways do not have speed limits posted at 35

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If nothing else, the narrower lanes force drivers to slow down. Parts of old Georgetown road are only 35 miles an hour But people tear through it like it is a highway

“Like it’s a Highway”? It’s literally a State Highway!

Highways do not have speed limits posted at 35

You’re thick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If nothing else, the narrower lanes force drivers to slow down. Parts of old Georgetown road are only 35 miles an hour But people tear through it like it is a highway

“Like it’s a Highway”? It’s literally a State Highway!

Nah. It's literally a road that the Maryland State Highway Administration is responsible for. Like Bradley Lane between Wisconsin Avenue and Connecticut Avenue. Would you call that a highway? It has 2 lanes and a 25 mph speed limit.

My god, these are all numbered state highways. MD187. MD191. MD355. MD185.

Yes. They are in fact definitionally a “highway”.

LOL. Keep digging.

You just don't get it. It is part of the state highway SYSTEM, but parts of the system are highways. Some are routes, some are roads. Why do you think they call it old Georgetown road not old Georgetown highway

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are they not doing more to encourage cyclists to utilize the very nice and adjacent trolley trail? What is the point of the trolley trail in the first place if not for use by bicycles instead of promoting cyclists to ride on a state highway.

Plenty of people use the Trolley Trail to go where the Trolley Trail goes, which is different from where Old Georgetown Road goes. Might as well ask why they are not doing more to encourage drivers to utilize the very nice and adjacent Rockville Pike instead of Old Georgetown Road.

The trolley trail runs directly adjacent to MD355 through that area.

The sidewalk on the east side of Rockville Pike between Nicholson and Bou has "Trolley Trail" signs. Is that the area you're referring to? I don't understand how that's relevant to Old Georgetown Road, though.

Thanks for demonstrating a lack of knowledge of the area that you are so opinionated about. LOL.

Then you need to explain which "that area" you're talking about. The new bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road are supposed to go from Ryland to Nicholson. The Trolley Trail does not run directly adjacent to 355 there. It also doesn't run directly adjacent to Old Georgetown Road. Maybe you can explain how someone should go by bike on the Trolley Trail from Woodward High School to the Wildwood shopping center, or from Rock Spring to the Wyngate neighborhood, or from the Wyngate neighborhood to the Y.

The trolley trail runs adjacent 187. That’s the point. That’s why a protected bike lane is not needed. You can ride from Pike & Rose straight to downtown Bethesda in complete safety and in a relaxing environment. You can also easily access shopping areas from the trail coming from a much safer direction in residential neighborhoods and away from a state highway. Theses bike lanes have no point. They also would not have stopped at least one of the recent fatalities because the kid unfortunately lost his balance and fell in the road. Same thing can happen from a sidewalk as a protected bike lane.

You can also drive from Pike and Rose to downtown Bethesda on 355. So I guess Old Georgetown Road has no point.

Both teenage boys fell off the sidewalk into the curb lane, where they were hit and killed by passing cars. If anybody falls off the sidewalk now, they will fall into the bike lane, and they will get up, brush themselves off, and keep going about their day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If nothing else, the narrower lanes force drivers to slow down. Parts of old Georgetown road are only 35 miles an hour But people tear through it like it is a highway

“Like it’s a Highway”? It’s literally a State Highway!

Nah. It's literally a road that the Maryland State Highway Administration is responsible for. Like Bradley Lane between Wisconsin Avenue and Connecticut Avenue. Would you call that a highway? It has 2 lanes and a 25 mph speed limit.

My god, these are all numbered state highways. MD187. MD191. MD355. MD185.

Yes. They are in fact definitionally a “highway”.

LOL. Keep digging.

If you want to call Bradley Lane a highway, go ahead. Or if you want to call it an elephant, or an Erlenmeyer flask, or eclair, you can do that too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people have been hit -pedestrians and people on bikes since they started with all these changes to intersections and lanes.

Data, please.

https://zerodeathsmd.gov/resources/crashdata/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people have been hit -pedestrians and people on bikes since they started with all these changes to intersections and lanes.

Data, please.

https://zerodeathsmd.gov/resources/crashdata/

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/visionzero/Resources/Files/vz2030-data.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If nothing else, the narrower lanes force drivers to slow down. Parts of old Georgetown road are only 35 miles an hour But people tear through it like it is a highway

“Like it’s a Highway”? It’s literally a State Highway!

Nah. It's literally a road that the Maryland State Highway Administration is responsible for. Like Bradley Lane between Wisconsin Avenue and Connecticut Avenue. Would you call that a highway? It has 2 lanes and a 25 mph speed limit.

My god, these are all numbered state highways. MD187. MD191. MD355. MD185.

Yes. They are in fact definitionally a “highway”.

LOL. Keep digging.

If you want to call Bradley Lane a highway, go ahead. Or if you want to call it an elephant, or an Erlenmeyer flask, or eclair, you can do that too.

You’re an idiot. Bradley Lane and Bradley Blvd is literally a numbered state highway. Im not calling it a highway, the state of Maryland is.

I think you’re just embarrassed for getting exposed and are trying to compensate for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people have been hit -pedestrians and people on bikes since they started with all these changes to intersections and lanes.

Data, please.

https://zerodeathsmd.gov/resources/crashdata/

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/visionzero/Resources/Files/vz2030-data.pdf

So the Old Georgetown Road bike lanes are responsible for causing an increase in pedestrians and bicyclists killed, statewide? Or even nationally? That's amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If nothing else, the narrower lanes force drivers to slow down. Parts of old Georgetown road are only 35 miles an hour But people tear through it like it is a highway

“Like it’s a Highway”? It’s literally a State Highway!

Nah. It's literally a road that the Maryland State Highway Administration is responsible for. Like Bradley Lane between Wisconsin Avenue and Connecticut Avenue. Would you call that a highway? It has 2 lanes and a 25 mph speed limit.

My god, these are all numbered state highways. MD187. MD191. MD355. MD185.

Yes. They are in fact definitionally a “highway”.

LOL. Keep digging.

If you want to call Bradley Lane a highway, go ahead. Or if you want to call it an elephant, or an Erlenmeyer flask, or eclair, you can do that too.

You’re an idiot. Bradley Lane and Bradley Blvd is literally a numbered state highway. Im not calling it a highway, the state of Maryland is.

I think you’re just embarrassed for getting exposed and are trying to compensate for it.

The state of Maryland calls it a lane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people have been hit -pedestrians and people on bikes since they started with all these changes to intersections and lanes.

Data, please.

https://zerodeathsmd.gov/resources/crashdata/

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/visionzero/Resources/Files/vz2030-data.pdf

So the Old Georgetown Road bike lanes are responsible for causing an increase in pedestrians and bicyclists killed, statewide? Or even nationally? That's amazing.

the have not reduced the incidents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people have been hit -pedestrians and people on bikes since they started with all these changes to intersections and lanes.

Data, please.

https://zerodeathsmd.gov/resources/crashdata/

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/visionzero/Resources/Files/vz2030-data.pdf

This shows that there has been no significant increase in pedestrian or cyclist injuries and fatalities. So it’s incorrect to say that “more people have been hit”. I would also bet that if you normalized based on the number of cyclists (they claim their numbers are increasing) or vehicle miles traveled there would be a downward slope in accident rates.