Does data exist on SAT scores, and AP achievements for Jackson Reed (Wilson) or any DCPS high school

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Anonymous wrote:I don't need data to tell me that go-getter high-achieving UMC kids at JR can keep up with the cream of the MoCo crop if they can draw on substantial family support/resources and get help from adults in the know on planning. You simply have to pay for outside prep, every year of HS. You need to be resourceful about seeking out challenge, starting in MS. When JR counselors tell you that your kid can't get into X AP class (common refrain), you don't take no for an answer. You find the prep/content as a family.

Relying on JR or any other DCPS HS for most inputs won't work at highly competitive colleges.

How do you prep a high school kid on Spanish, advanced English, Math ... at a certain point, there's no "supplementing" that can feasibly take the place of an actually solid school. Someone that deadset on highly competitive college should move if at all possible.

Yet, there are JR kids who get into Ivies every year. Same with Walls, BASIS and Latin. JR has some great teachers. If your kid is bright and motivated enough and you can pay for tutors and enrichment camps, you can swing it.

Sure but you’re not going to tutor them in five subjects. It’s not like sending a Kindergartener to Kumon.

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Anonymous wrote:In case people are too lazy to look, here are the results for the top 3 schools:

School SAT AP

Walls 1317 89% scored at least a 3 on ONE AP exam
Banneker 1088 48% scored at least a 3 on ONE AP exam
JR 1050 63% scored at least a 3 on ONE AP exam

As far as charters, BASIS DC is by far the top:

School SAT AP

BASIS DC 1368 40% were AP Scholars, which means they scored at least a 3 on at least THREE AP exams; kids who scored at least a 3 on ONE AP exam was probably in the mid 90s.

Where are you finding the AP scholar data?
For BASIS as a whole, 93% of the kids at least earn the AP Scholar, with around 63% earning the AP Scholar with Distinction award. I doubt the DC BASIS is that much worse than all of the AZ BASIS schools. Did your numbers possibly exclude the kids earning higher tier AP awards?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't need data to tell me that go-getter high-achieving UMC kids at JR can keep up with the cream of the MoCo crop if they can draw on substantial family support/resources and get help from adults in the know on planning. You simply have to pay for outside prep, every year of HS. You need to be resourceful about seeking out challenge, starting in MS. When JR counselors tell you that your kid can't get into X AP class (common refrain), you don't take no for an answer. You find the prep/content as a family.

Relying on JR or any other DCPS HS for most inputs won't work at highly competitive colleges.

How do you prep a high school kid on Spanish, advanced English, Math ... at a certain point, there's no "supplementing" that can feasibly take the place of an actually solid school. Someone that deadset on highly competitive college should move if at all possible.

Yet, there are JR kids who get into Ivies every year. Same with Walls, BASIS and Latin. JR has some great teachers. If your kid is bright and motivated enough and you can pay for tutors and enrichment camps, you can swing it.

yeah, but in recent years the only JR Ivy admits are the crew kids and URMs (which is not to discredit them--they certainly deserve it). But kids are really not getting into the Ivies from JR based on being the top academic kids or being "bright, motivated kids with tutors and enrichment".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In case people are too lazy to look, here are the results for the top 3 schools:

School SAT AP

Walls 1317 89% scored at least a 3 on ONE AP exam
Banneker 1088 48% scored at least a 3 on ONE AP exam
JR 1050 63% scored at least a 3 on ONE AP exam

As far as charters, BASIS DC is by far the top:

School SAT AP

BASIS DC 1368 40% were AP Scholars, which means they scored at least a 3 on at least THREE AP exams; kids who scored at least a 3 on ONE AP exam was probably in the mid 90s.

Where are you finding the AP scholar data?
For BASIS as a whole, 93% of the kids at least earn the AP Scholar, with around 63% earning the AP Scholar with Distinction award. I doubt the DC BASIS is that much worse than all of the AZ BASIS schools. Did your numbers possibly exclude the kids earning higher tier AP awards?

Where are you getting this data?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't need data to tell me that go-getter high-achieving UMC kids at JR can keep up with the cream of the MoCo crop if they can draw on substantial family support/resources and get help from adults in the know on planning. You simply have to pay for outside prep, every year of HS. You need to be resourceful about seeking out challenge, starting in MS. When JR counselors tell you that your kid can't get into X AP class (common refrain), you don't take no for an answer. You find the prep/content as a family.

Relying on JR or any other DCPS HS for most inputs won't work at highly competitive colleges.

How do you prep a high school kid on Spanish, advanced English, Math ... at a certain point, there's no "supplementing" that can feasibly take the place of an actually solid school. Someone that deadset on highly competitive college should move if at all possible.

Yet, there are JR kids who get into Ivies every year. Same with Walls, BASIS and Latin. JR has some great teachers. If your kid is bright and motivated enough and you can pay for tutors and enrichment camps, you can swing it.

yeah, but in recent years the only JR Ivy admits are the crew kids and URMs (which is not to discredit them--they certainly deserve it). But kids are really not getting into the Ivies from JR based on being the top academic kids or being "bright, motivated kids with tutors and enrichment".

It’s not just about Ivies. Many of us have kids who aren’t going to Ivies no matter how great the HS. But we still need them to be challenged and supported jn an environment that considers high performance a normal standard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't need data to tell me that go-getter high-achieving UMC kids at JR can keep up with the cream of the MoCo crop if they can draw on substantial family support/resources and get help from adults in the know on planning. You simply have to pay for outside prep, every year of HS. You need to be resourceful about seeking out challenge, starting in MS. When JR counselors tell you that your kid can't get into X AP class (common refrain), you don't take no for an answer. You find the prep/content as a family.

Relying on JR or any other DCPS HS for most inputs won't work at highly competitive colleges.

How do you prep a high school kid on Spanish, advanced English, Math ... at a certain point, there's no "supplementing" that can feasibly take the place of an actually solid school. Someone that deadset on highly competitive college should move if at all possible.

Yet, there are JR kids who get into Ivies every year. Same with Walls, BASIS and Latin. JR has some great teachers. If your kid is bright and motivated enough and you can pay for tutors and enrichment camps, you can swing it.

yeah, but in recent years the only JR Ivy admits are the crew kids and URMs (which is not to discredit them--they certainly deserve it). But kids are really not getting into the Ivies from JR based on being the top academic kids or being "bright, motivated kids with tutors and enrichment".

It’s not just about Ivies. Many of us have kids who aren’t going to Ivies no matter how great the HS. But we still need them to be challenged and supported jn an environment that considers high performance a normal standard.

Yes, I agree 100%. But it bothers me when people say that you can just send your high achieving kid to JR and supplement a bit and they'll end up at an Ivy. This simply hasn't been happening in the past 3 years.

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The fact that no 9th grader is permitted to take a single AP class isn’t a great sign when public and private schools nearby allow this. We know BASIS 8th graders who scored 5s on AP World History after taking the class in school. They then took a couple APs in 9th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that no 9th grader is permitted to take a single AP class isn’t a great sign when public and private schools nearby allow this. We know BASIS 8th graders who scored 5s on AP World History after taking the class in school. They then took a couple APs in 9th grade.

I worry about the lack of focused writing instruction. You can't just not challenge kids all through 6th - 9th grade, and all of a sudden expect them to write beautifully in 10th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that no 9th grader is permitted to take a single AP class isn’t a great sign when public and private schools nearby allow this. We know BASIS 8th graders who scored 5s on AP World History after taking the class in school. They then took a couple APs in 9th grade.

I worry about the lack of focused writing instruction. You can't just not challenge kids all through 6th - 9th grade, and all of a sudden expect them to write beautifully in 10th grade.

huh? Have you had a 10th grader at Wilson/JR?
The AP classes there don't require any writing either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't need data to tell me that go-getter high-achieving UMC kids at JR can keep up with the cream of the MoCo crop if they can draw on substantial family support/resources and get help from adults in the know on planning. You simply have to pay for outside prep, every year of HS. You need to be resourceful about seeking out challenge, starting in MS. When JR counselors tell you that your kid can't get into X AP class (common refrain), you don't take no for an answer. You find the prep/content as a family.

Relying on JR or any other DCPS HS for most inputs won't work at highly competitive colleges.

How do you prep a high school kid on Spanish, advanced English, Math ... at a certain point, there's no "supplementing" that can feasibly take the place of an actually solid school. Someone that deadset on highly competitive college should move if at all possible.

Yet, there are JR kids who get into Ivies every year. Same with Walls, BASIS and Latin. JR has some great teachers. If your kid is bright and motivated enough and you can pay for tutors and enrichment camps, you can swing it.

Sure but you’re not going to tutor them in five subjects. It’s not like sending a Kindergartener to Kumon.

+1 million. Totally different ballgame in HS. Schools should be challenging all kids even higher achieving kids so there is not a need to supplement everything

How exactly is there enough time in the day after school for tutoring, extracurriculars, sports, homework, etc….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS has data on each high school's SAT mean score (verbal and math), and various types of AP data, eg, %age of 12th graders that took an AP and score 3+, %age of APs taken that score 3+.

I looked around and can't find DCPS data that is similar. Does it exist?

More data relevant to this query is now available in the “school report cards” discussed (and linked) in this thread:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1101268.page

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that no 9th grader is permitted to take a single AP class isn’t a great sign when public and private schools nearby allow this. We know BASIS 8th graders who scored 5s on AP World History after taking the class in school. They then took a couple APs in 9th grade.

If the point of AP classes is to expose students to college-level content (and potentially allow them to test out of college level classes), why is it important that 9th graders take AP classes? Why is it good that 8th graders are taking AP classes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't need data to tell me that go-getter high-achieving UMC kids at JR can keep up with the cream of the MoCo crop if they can draw on substantial family support/resources and get help from adults in the know on planning. You simply have to pay for outside prep, every year of HS. You need to be resourceful about seeking out challenge, starting in MS. When JR counselors tell you that your kid can't get into X AP class (common refrain), you don't take no for an answer. You find the prep/content as a family.

Relying on JR or any other DCPS HS for most inputs won't work at highly competitive colleges.

How do you prep a high school kid on Spanish, advanced English, Math ... at a certain point, there's no "supplementing" that can feasibly take the place of an actually solid school. Someone that deadset on highly competitive college should move if at all possible.

Yet, there are JR kids who get into Ivies every year. Same with Walls, BASIS and Latin. JR has some great teachers. If your kid is bright and motivated enough and you can pay for tutors and enrichment camps, you can swing it.

yeah, but in recent years the only JR Ivy admits are the crew kids and URMs (which is not to discredit them--they certainly deserve it). But kids are really not getting into the Ivies from JR based on being the top academic kids or being "bright, motivated kids with tutors and enrichment".

That’s just not true. Even this week, Cornell and Harvard admits are not.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that no 9th grader is permitted to take a single AP class isn’t a great sign when public and private schools nearby allow this. We know BASIS 8th graders who scored 5s on AP World History after taking the class in school. They then took a couple APs in 9th grade.

Also not totally true. Most nearby privates have gotten rid of APs all together

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't need data to tell me that go-getter high-achieving UMC kids at JR can keep up with the cream of the MoCo crop if they can draw on substantial family support/resources and get help from adults in the know on planning. You simply have to pay for outside prep, every year of HS. You need to be resourceful about seeking out challenge, starting in MS. When JR counselors tell you that your kid can't get into X AP class (common refrain), you don't take no for an answer. You find the prep/content as a family.

Relying on JR or any other DCPS HS for most inputs won't work at highly competitive colleges.

How do you prep a high school kid on Spanish, advanced English, Math ... at a certain point, there's no "supplementing" that can feasibly take the place of an actually solid school. Someone that deadset on highly competitive college should move if at all possible.

Yet, there are JR kids who get into Ivies every year. Same with Walls, BASIS and Latin. JR has some great teachers. If your kid is bright and motivated enough and you can pay for tutors and enrichment camps, you can swing it.

yeah, but in recent years the only JR Ivy admits are the crew kids and URMs (which is not to discredit them--they certainly deserve it). But kids are really not getting into the Ivies from JR based on being the top academic kids or being "bright, motivated kids with tutors and enrichment".

That’s just not true. Even this week, Cornell and Harvard admits are not.

+1 I’m so tired of the “well these Ivy/top school admits are unicorn crew kids.”