Well-regarded middle school AAP centers?

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Anonymous wrote:Longfellow is probably the strongest but forget about TJ.


Weird since Longfellow sends a higher percentage of its kids to TJ than any other MS?


I think you fundamentally misunderstand the admissions process. TJ admissions personnel don't consider Longfellow as a rigorous alma mater like graduate schools consider the rigor of selective undergraduate programs. If TJ is faced with a choice between two candidates that have exactly the same academic stats, the one from a nontraditional feeder is the one that will be chosen.


I think you're misunderstanding schools and students, as well as the new admission process. Look at the numbers first before drawing your statistical conclusion.


Many students attend TJ from Longfellow/Carson due to the extremely high number of applicants (as a result of the high SES and education of families within their catchments), but that does not imply that attending Longfellow/Carson improves a child's chances of getting admitted. Those percentages you see are not related to probability. Greater probability of admittance is not given to an applicant just because they attended a top-feeder school.

Longfellow is a fine school. But an outsider with a top-of-the-class student new to FCPS with hopes of getting into TJ literally has a better chance by earning a guaranteed spot in the 1.5% reserved at any nontraditional feeders than competing against the hundreds at top-feeders.


DP. With the changes in admissions process, it might be best to look at Carson/Longfellow relative to TJ the same way that some look at TJ relative to admissions to a particular college or university. Don't send your kid to Carson/Longfellow thinking it's a ticket to being admitted to TJ or that TJ is a ticket to a particular college. Send your kid there because these are excellent schools with strong peer groups that will prepare them well for the next step, whatever that may be.

For many, the changes in the TJ admissions process make admissions seem like more of a crap shoot, while at the same time making TJ seem less attractive. It will be interesting to see the number of applications there over the coming years.


I'd say the changes have the opposite effect. TJ seems somewhat more attainable and more attractive.


Agree... it seems likely to be a healthier environment in the years ahead, while still being among the top academic HS in the country.


Substitute “county” for “country” and you might be close.
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Anonymous wrote:Longfellow is probably the strongest but forget about TJ.


Weird since Longfellow sends a higher percentage of its kids to TJ than any other MS?


I think you fundamentally misunderstand the admissions process. TJ admissions personnel don't consider Longfellow as a rigorous alma mater like graduate schools consider the rigor of selective undergraduate programs. If TJ is faced with a choice between two candidates that have exactly the same academic stats, the one from a nontraditional feeder is the one that will be chosen.


I think you're misunderstanding schools and students, as well as the new admission process. Look at the numbers first before drawing your statistical conclusion.


Many students attend TJ from Longfellow/Carson due to the extremely high number of applicants (as a result of the high SES and education of families within their catchments), but that does not imply that attending Longfellow/Carson improves a child's chances of getting admitted. Those percentages you see are not related to probability. Greater probability of admittance is not given to an applicant just because they attended a top-feeder school.

Longfellow is a fine school. But an outsider with a top-of-the-class student new to FCPS with hopes of getting into TJ literally has a better chance by earning a guaranteed spot in the 1.5% reserved at any nontraditional feeders than competing against the hundreds at top-feeders.


DP. With the changes in admissions process, it might be best to look at Carson/Longfellow relative to TJ the same way that some look at TJ relative to admissions to a particular college or university. Don't send your kid to Carson/Longfellow thinking it's a ticket to being admitted to TJ or that TJ is a ticket to a particular college. Send your kid there because these are excellent schools with strong peer groups that will prepare them well for the next step, whatever that may be.

For many, the changes in the TJ admissions process make admissions seem like more of a crap shoot, while at the same time making TJ seem less attractive. It will be interesting to see the number of applications there over the coming years.


I'd say the changes have the opposite effect. TJ seems somewhat more attainable and more attractive.


Agree... it seems likely to be a healthier environment in the years ahead, while still being among the top academic HS in the country.


Substitute “county” for “country” and you might be close.


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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Longfellow is probably the strongest but forget about TJ.


Weird since Longfellow sends a higher percentage of its kids to TJ than any other MS?


I think you fundamentally misunderstand the admissions process. TJ admissions personnel don't consider Longfellow as a rigorous alma mater like graduate schools consider the rigor of selective undergraduate programs. If TJ is faced with a choice between two candidates that have exactly the same academic stats, the one from a nontraditional feeder is the one that will be chosen.


I think you're misunderstanding schools and students, as well as the new admission process. Look at the numbers first before drawing your statistical conclusion.


Many students attend TJ from Longfellow/Carson due to the extremely high number of applicants (as a result of the high SES and education of families within their catchments), but that does not imply that attending Longfellow/Carson improves a child's chances of getting admitted. Those percentages you see are not related to probability. Greater probability of admittance is not given to an applicant just because they attended a top-feeder school.

Longfellow is a fine school. But an outsider with a top-of-the-class student new to FCPS with hopes of getting into TJ literally has a better chance by earning a guaranteed spot in the 1.5% reserved at any nontraditional feeders than competing against the hundreds at top-feeders.


DP. With the changes in admissions process, it might be best to look at Carson/Longfellow relative to TJ the same way that some look at TJ relative to admissions to a particular college or university. Don't send your kid to Carson/Longfellow thinking it's a ticket to being admitted to TJ or that TJ is a ticket to a particular college. Send your kid there because these are excellent schools with strong peer groups that will prepare them well for the next step, whatever that may be.

For many, the changes in the TJ admissions process make admissions seem like more of a crap shoot, while at the same time making TJ seem less attractive. It will be interesting to see the number of applications there over the coming years.


I'd say the changes have the opposite effect. TJ seems somewhat more attainable and more attractive.


Agree... it seems likely to be a healthier environment in the years ahead, while still being among the top academic HS in the country.


Eliminating all the hyper-competitive applicants who were buying the test answers also must've helped reduce the toxicity.
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It will be Oakton-level but that's OK for some since otherwise they'd be going to Justice or Lewis.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be Oakton-level but that's OK for some since otherwise they'd be going to Justice or Lewis.


It's hard to know if post's like this are for real or just trolling. They're absurd but seem so serious. I can't tell.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be Oakton-level but that's OK for some since otherwise they'd be going to Justice or Lewis.

I guess Oakton must be amazing these days.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be Oakton-level but that's OK for some since otherwise they'd be going to Justice or Lewis.

I guess Oakton must be amazing these days.


It's well above average which is TJ's future as well. Not exceptional, but a good alternative if you're otherwise looking at a GS 2.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be Oakton-level but that's OK for some since otherwise they'd be going to Justice or Lewis.

I guess Oakton must be amazing these days.


It's well above average which is TJ's future as well. Not exceptional, but a good alternative if you're otherwise looking at a GS 2.


You can fool some of the people some of the time, friend.
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