Is Shakira really going to go to prison for tax fraud? 8 years?

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Anonymous wrote: Shakira is a tax fraud. She'll most likely be found guilty and not do jail time if she ponies up the amount she owes . Her arrogance-driven insistence that she was a resident of the bahamas isn't helping matters, at all.Seriously, does she think the spanish tax authorities lack the capabilities to know whether or not she was a bona fide resident of the bahamas ? What a fraud .


The Spanish government has a lot levers it can pull than a state government in tax residency dispute. They will have access to both Spanish and EU passport systems. Private jet flight manifests that must be submitted to Spanish and European authorities. Access to cell phone metadata to determine location on certain dates

It seems to be her assertion that she was traveling so much during those years that she did establish Spanish residency. But, per the article, is is very easy to qualify for residency under Spanish law:


Spanish domestic tax law uses three criteria to consider if a person is a resident of a Spanish territory: physical presence, the center of economic interests and the location of a spouse and children. In Shakira’s case, the determination of presence is key, said Adolfo Martín Jiménez, a professor of tax law at the University of Cádiz and an international taxation expert at Pérez-Llorca, a law firm in Madrid.

“Even if you are not present for that many days, a sporadic presence is regarded as presence,” Mr. Jiménez said, adding that “there’s a tendency in Spain, within the tax administration, to consider if a person is not able to prove they are resident in another country, then there’s a presumption that they are doing something strange.”

Like in the United States, Spain applies a worldwide nexus to income. Fines like the one the Spanish tax authorities are pursuing — 23 million euros — are based on income, Mr. Jiménez said.


Unlike many states in the U.S., the Spanish definition of residency is not clearly defined by an explicit number of days presence. She will very likely settle for the full amount if she wants access to her Spanish child or to ever visit/do business in the country again.


Access to her Spanish child?? Is that at risk?


She's in a volatile child custody dispute with her Spanish baby daddy, Pique.
Anonymous
Her soccer playing baby daddy makes $30m cash from a soccer contract alone. He's richer than she is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Her soccer playing baby daddy makes $30m cash from a soccer contract alone. He's richer than she is.


Annually. He just got a new like 5 yr nearly $150,000,000 contract.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Shakira is a tax fraud. She'll most likely be found guilty and not do jail time if she ponies up the amount she owes . Her arrogance-driven insistence that she was a resident of the bahamas isn't helping matters, at all.Seriously, does she think the spanish tax authorities lack the capabilities to know whether or not she was a bona fide resident of the bahamas ? What a fraud .


The Spanish government has a lot levers it can pull than a state government in tax residency dispute. They will have access to both Spanish and EU passport systems. Private jet flight manifests that must be submitted to Spanish and European authorities. Access to cell phone metadata to determine location on certain dates

It seems to be her assertion that she was traveling so much during those years that she did establish Spanish residency. But, per the article, is is very easy to qualify for residency under Spanish law:


Spanish domestic tax law uses three criteria to consider if a person is a resident of a Spanish territory: physical presence, the center of economic interests and the location of a spouse and children. In Shakira’s case, the determination of presence is key, said Adolfo Martín Jiménez, a professor of tax law at the University of Cádiz and an international taxation expert at Pérez-Llorca, a law firm in Madrid.

“Even if you are not present for that many days, a sporadic presence is regarded as presence,” Mr. Jiménez said, adding that “there’s a tendency in Spain, within the tax administration, to consider if a person is not able to prove they are resident in another country, then there’s a presumption that they are doing something strange.”

Like in the United States, Spain applies a worldwide nexus to income. Fines like the one the Spanish tax authorities are pursuing — 23 million euros — are based on income, Mr. Jiménez said.


Unlike many states in the U.S., the Spanish definition of residency is not clearly defined by an explicit number of days presence. She will very likely settle for the full amount if she wants access to her Spanish child or to ever visit/do business in the country again.

Interesting. So her assertion that she wasn’t there 183 days in 2018 etc is irrelevant because they don’t really look at days in country for residency?
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know the details but, some of the comments indicated that the Spanish government likes to extort celebrities for tax money.

If she owes then she needs to pay.


She already paid in full, plus all fines.

They went after Messi and Ronaldo too. Shakira doesn’t do her own taxes (I don’t even do my own taxes). She’s relying on a professional CPA to explain and complete her taxes. They should be going after whoever else that is.

The fact that they didn’t go so hard over Ronaldo and Messi (they paid, end of case) and are going nuclear over Shakira when she’s already paid whatever extra she would have owed, plus fines, is ridiculous and seems incredibly sexist.


What an awful year for her. Her husband’s mistress rubbing her face in the affair and his family trying to take her kids away, prevent her from moving with them. She was blind-sided and heartbroken he left. She had family values—I read her interview. Feel for her. That’s a sh@tload of stress.
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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile we have Donald Trump and Brett Farve who are literally stealing from kids with cancer and nothing happens to them. Not even a slap on the wrist

Kind of like how Martha Stewart got busted for insider trading and the people who tanked the economy didn’t get jack either.


Martha Stewart did go to jail, not for long, but still.


The people who tanked the economy was main street not wall street. It was the people with mortgages they lied to get or should not have had. That is on them.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Was she (a Colombian national) only living in Spain because that’s where her husband is from? Now ex husband. Can anyone explain how he avoided the tax trouble? Or did this tax drama pre-cede their marriage?


They didn’t marry.
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Anonymous wrote:Her soccer playing baby daddy makes $30m cash from a soccer contract alone. He's richer than she is.


Annually. He just got a new like 5 yr nearly $150,000,000 contract.


Her net worth is $350M she’s got Giselle money.
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Anonymous wrote:Her soccer playing baby daddy makes $30m cash from a soccer contract alone. He's richer than she is.


Annually. He just got a new like 5 yr nearly $150,000,000 contract.


Her net worth is $350M she’s got Giselle money.


Bull crap. I doubt she’s worth anywhere near nine figures, let alone $350m.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Her soccer playing baby daddy makes $30m cash from a soccer contract alone. He's richer than she is.


Annually. He just got a new like 5 yr nearly $150,000,000 contract.


Her net worth is $350M she’s got Giselle money.


Bull crap. I doubt she’s worth anywhere near nine figures, let alone $350m.

She was huge in Latin America for years before she even crossed over to the US Market. She’s been making big touring money for almost 20 years. She has a ton of endorsement deals and even made $12M from her time on the voice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Her soccer playing baby daddy makes $30m cash from a soccer contract alone. He's richer than she is.


Annually. He just got a new like 5 yr nearly $150,000,000 contract.


Her net worth is $350M she’s got Giselle money.


Bull crap. I doubt she’s worth anywhere near nine figures, let alone $350m.


Well you are wrong, you’re probably a misogynist.

Sorry Giselle makes more than Tom and Shakira makes more that pique.

Shocking! Also Bezos wife got all HER money not his, she quit Wall Street and helped build Amazon.

Welcome to the real world.
Anonymous
Shakira seems to “Girl Next Door” to go to prison.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Shakira seems to “Girl Next Door” to go to prison.
So did Martha Stewart. Times are hard in Europe. Maybe the Spanish government wants to seem tough and make an example out of her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Her soccer playing baby daddy makes $30m cash from a soccer contract alone. He's richer than she is.


Annually. He just got a new like 5 yr nearly $150,000,000 contract.


Her net worth is $350M she’s got Giselle money.


Bull crap. I doubt she’s worth anywhere near nine figures, let alone $350m.

She was huge in Latin America for years before she even crossed over to the US Market. She’s been making big touring money for almost 20 years. She has a ton of endorsement deals and even made $12M from her time on the voice.


I mean maybe if you add EVERYTHING she’s ever grossed it’s $350m. She most certainly never personally had $350m.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Her soccer playing baby daddy makes $30m cash from a soccer contract alone. He's richer than she is.


Annually. He just got a new like 5 yr nearly $150,000,000 contract.


Her net worth is $350M she’s got Giselle money.


Bull crap. I doubt she’s worth anywhere near nine figures, let alone $350m.

She was huge in Latin America for years before she even crossed over to the US Market. She’s been making big touring money for almost 20 years. She has a ton of endorsement deals and even made $12M from her time on the voice.


Yes she was an uber famous artist there/ little known here when I was in college. We used to listen to her MTV unplugged all the time. What a talent.
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