Hardy MS Football Season Cancelled

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Anonymous wrote:As the demographics of Hardy changes, it will get harder and harder to field a football team. Upper income families familiar with the medical science are not letting their kids take hits to the head and their bodies. Not when it can affect life and educational outcomes. This is probably why the coach had to specifically recruit kids from elsewhere.

RIP Hardy football.

The elite private schools say differently. Tons of wealthy, educated boys fill the football teams at Sidwell, STA, Maret, Landon etc. Even the middle school teams. I suspect it’s more so that it conflicts with soccer and in privates, kids know whether they have what it takes to compete on soccer team.

It turns out if you have family money, you don't need brains to get into good colleges.

Sure that’s it 🙄. I think the Ivy League commits and current students that are playing football would disagree. Still very high academic standards to play football for Yale, Princeton, Harvard, and even Notre Dame and Stanford.

DH’s family big ND football and school supporters since FIL went there, active alumni, etc. . Academic standards are not the same with football and I’m sure it’s like that at many schools.

My nephew plays for ND which is why I added them in with Ivy League as he was recruited there too. Not saying they’re the same as general admission but the academic requirements there are a lot higher than NCAA min which is what I was trying to show. You’ll find most of ND recruits in our area come from private school or kids on Dean’s list in public. It’s not coincidental.

PP here and my comment was about the academic standards of general admissions of these schools, not NCAA. ND had a big scandal 8 or 9 years back too because other students were doing the players coursework. Made huge headline news.

I’m not big football fan and don’t watch with DH but reality is that sure some top schools have football teams but it’s not like they are powerhouses like Alabama. They have a harder time recruiting and getting good players because the pool of players who also do really well academically is small. Football is also not a big sport at the schools above except for ND. There is nothing around there and like many small towns, football is it.

Although FIL is huge ND football fan, he has made the comment that the school is too focused on football and all the bells and whistles and cost of facilities to support it instead of making the school more affordable and accessible for many students.

Your FIL is in the minority. You wouldn’t believe the amount of money that’s donated by alumni for football program. It’s crazy.

For small number of high-level programs the football program is a money maker. For the rest it's a money sink.

I think you have it backwards. For D1 schools, football is a money maker and funds like 70% of all the other sports at that school. If it weren’t for football, there would be zero college athletics. I’m not a football super fan, just stating the facts. That’s a reason why football and bball are 100% fully funded scholarships required (no partial scholarships). And now with NIL, you have top players earning multi millions of dollars before they even snap a football in college. Football ain’t going anywhere despite what you all think. Sure maybe youth football has seen decrease, but those are kids that wouldn’t have played high school anyway - the 95% that don’t get to that level. Same with bball.

SMH..The lack of knowledge is staggering on this board. Disagreement with something doesn't mean it's going away. Take a look at the TV contracts and bidding wars for the SEC, Big Ten, ACC, etc. games. ND has it's own contract with NBC! Without football and men's bball there are no female athletics at most schools. You think coaches like college coaches Saban make like $10M a year because the state just likes him....

Huh? That’s basically what I said. I was responding to PP that said the football is a money sink.

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Anonymous wrote:As the demographics of Hardy changes, it will get harder and harder to field a football team. Upper income families familiar with the medical science are not letting their kids take hits to the head and their bodies. Not when it can affect life and educational outcomes. This is probably why the coach had to specifically recruit kids from elsewhere.

RIP Hardy football.

The elite private schools say differently. Tons of wealthy, educated boys fill the football teams at Sidwell, STA, Maret, Landon etc. Even the middle school teams. I suspect it’s more so that it conflicts with soccer and in privates, kids know whether they have what it takes to compete on soccer team.

It turns out if you have family money, you don't need brains to get into good colleges.

Sure that’s it 🙄. I think the Ivy League commits and current students that are playing football would disagree. Still very high academic standards to play football for Yale, Princeton, Harvard, and even Notre Dame and Stanford.

DH’s family big ND football and school supporters since FIL went there, active alumni, etc. . Academic standards are not the same with football and I’m sure it’s like that at many schools.

My nephew plays for ND which is why I added them in with Ivy League as he was recruited there too. Not saying they’re the same as general admission but the academic requirements there are a lot higher than NCAA min which is what I was trying to show. You’ll find most of ND recruits in our area come from private school or kids on Dean’s list in public. It’s not coincidental.

PP here and my comment was about the academic standards of general admissions of these schools, not NCAA. ND had a big scandal 8 or 9 years back too because other students were doing the players coursework. Made huge headline news.

I’m not big football fan and don’t watch with DH but reality is that sure some top schools have football teams but it’s not like they are powerhouses like Alabama. They have a harder time recruiting and getting good players because the pool of players who also do really well academically is small. Football is also not a big sport at the schools above except for ND. There is nothing around there and like many small towns, football is it.

Although FIL is huge ND football fan, he has made the comment that the school is too focused on football and all the bells and whistles and cost of facilities to support it instead of making the school more affordable and accessible for many students.

Your FIL is in the minority. You wouldn’t believe the amount of money that’s donated by alumni for football program. It’s crazy.

For small number of high-level programs the football program is a money maker. For the rest it's a money sink.

I think you have it backwards. For D1 schools, football is a money maker and funds like 70% of all the other sports at that school. If it weren’t for football, there would be zero college athletics. I’m not a football super fan, just stating the facts. That’s a reason why football and bball are 100% fully funded scholarships required (no partial scholarships). And now with NIL, you have top players earning multi millions of dollars before they even snap a football in college. Football ain’t going anywhere despite what you all think. Sure maybe youth football has seen decrease, but those are kids that wouldn’t have played high school anyway - the 95% that don’t get to that level. Same with bball.

SMH..The lack of knowledge is staggering on this board. Disagreement with something doesn't mean it's going away. Take a look at the TV contracts and bidding wars for the SEC, Big Ten, ACC, etc. games. ND has it's own contract with NBC! Without football and men's bball there are no female athletics at most schools. You think coaches like college coaches Saban make like $10M a year because the state just likes him....

. . . and the band played on.