Reliability among German cars

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.


you're definitely not a car person.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.


It's evident that you have never travelled outside of the country. Go to Germany. You'll change your mind. Plenty and German luxury cars with no problems.


Yeah ! You're right , I've never travelled outside of the country and i need to go *outside* of the country or, specifically to the country these brands originate from to get a shot at a car that isn't a money pit. That wasn't the clever nor convincing retort you thought it was . If anything, you just confirmed what i wrote .


How any more ways can you let us know that you're too poor to drive anything other than a toyota
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My most reliable car (23 years old, 350k miles) has been a Toyota. We’ve owned several German cars and they all needed expensive repairs.



+1

Toyota all the way
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've always owned German cars and currently have a POS Mini Cooper S, a MBZ E55 and a Porsche Cayenne.

As far as reliability they're not in the same league as say a Toyota or other Japanese brands. I also own a couple Toyotas, that are not troublesome but is just an appliance. Takes you from point A to B without any drama. German cars are NOT boring, and if you're not a DIYer, don't buy one without a warranty.

Before buying go to the respective car forums, mbworld.org, audizine, bimmerfest, etc., and research the SPECIFIC model you're interested in. Spend sometime on 6speedonline, pelican parts.com+, and hear owners experiences.




oh, and to the OP, I'd choose a MB. Go here and research.https://mbworld.org



One more thing I want to add since it's real popular in the DC metro area. Do not buy a Macan without a warranty! Great car but the PDK Transmission is a weak point especially in stop and go traffic. Replacement cost is about 20k as the dealers refused to fix the broken parts in it, which is a few hundred dollars.
Anonymous
A German car is perfect for someone with the time and willingness to perform basic maintenance and repairs. Oil changes at least once a year, brake pads/rotors, etc. Alternatively you need a reliable and trustworthy independent mechanic. For BMWs, using a dealership to service a vehicle once the 3/36 free maintenance period expires is not a wise fundncial choice. Otherwise there’s a 4/50,000 warranty that’s going to cover any significant issues.

Anectdotsl stories about a particular Mercedes SUV from eight years ago, without more context, are not terribly instructive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.


It's evident that you have never travelled outside of the country. Go to Germany. You'll change your mind. Plenty and German luxury cars with no problems.


Yeah ! You're right , I've never travelled outside of the country and i need to go *outside* of the country or, specifically to the country these brands originate from to get a shot at a car that isn't a money pit. That wasn't the clever nor convincing retort you thought it was . If anything, you just confirmed what i wrote .


How any more ways can you let us know that you're too poor to drive anything other than a toyota


Ah yes! This is it. It's all about projecting , isnt it ?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.


Take a chill pill. It's not that serious.

If you can afford the initial and maintenance costs of owning a German car, go for it.



Nonsense.



Either you don't like driving or you can't afford to maintain a German car. Or both. It's OK. There is a boring Toyota or Subaru out there with your name on it.
Anonymous
Audi Q5's had many

Junk however driving is a dream seats are amazing etc...

But... just got a blow out bec of a recall that Audi claimed to have fixed!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.


Take a chill pill. It's not that serious.

If you can afford the initial and maintenance costs of owning a German car, go for it.



Nonsense.



Either you don't like driving or you can't afford to maintain a German car. Or both. It's OK. There is a boring Toyota or Subaru out there with your name on it.


This is laughable. Given the price premium of most german cars , i find their design comically underwhelming. Enjoy the badge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.


It's evident that you have never travelled outside of the country. Go to Germany. You'll change your mind. Plenty and German luxury cars with no problems.


Yeah ! You're right , I've never travelled outside of the country and i need to go *outside* of the country or, specifically to the country these brands originate from to get a shot at a car that isn't a money pit. That wasn't the clever nor convincing retort you thought it was . If anything, you just confirmed what i wrote .


How any more ways can you let us know that you're too poor to drive anything other than a toyota


We’re supposed to feel bad about driving Toyotas? Are you nuts?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.


Take a chill pill. It's not that serious.

If you can afford the initial and maintenance costs of owning a German car, go for it.



Nonsense.



Either you don't like driving or you can't afford to maintain a German car. Or both. It's OK. There is a boring Toyota or Subaru out there with your name on it.


This is laughable. Given the price premium of most german cars , i find their design comically underwhelming. Enjoy the badge.


Although some of us like the design of German cars - at least BMWs, in my case - it is not solely about the design. It is about the drive. And there is a world of difference. For many of us, that makes the cost totally worth it. If that's not you, awesome, Japanese and Korean cars are terrific options. But, don't suggest there is no difference between German cars and Japanese/Korean cars besides status.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:German cars are garbage. They charge exorbitant amount of money for their clunky nonsense. Perhaps, there was a time when they were a a lot of things at once; reliable, performant and pleasant . But, nowadays , i find german cars are for people who want the brand names, to say nothing of the fact that, in this area at least, german car drivers are also some of the worst and most obnoxious.

Having said all that, if you're going to buy a german car, do not buy used. There's an argument to be made that if used is what you can afford , then you can't afford it anyway. Buying a used german car is buying problems—literally and figuratively.


It's evident that you have never travelled outside of the country. Go to Germany. You'll change your mind. Plenty and German luxury cars with no problems.


Yeah ! You're right , I've never travelled outside of the country and i need to go *outside* of the country or, specifically to the country these brands originate from to get a shot at a car that isn't a money pit. That wasn't the clever nor convincing retort you thought it was . If anything, you just confirmed what i wrote .


How any more ways can you let us know that you're too poor to drive anything other than a toyota


We’re supposed to feel bad about driving Toyotas? Are you nuts?


I drive the Lexus SC430, my wife drives the Lexus LX580, my daughter drives the Lexus RX350, and my son drives the IS350. My weekend car is the Porsche 911 and I have spent more money fixing the 911 than the 4 Lexus combined. When it comes to car, Lexus is the best one, bar none.
Anonymous
All said is true about expensive maintenance. But I really enjoy my BMW 3 series and won't go back to something boring. It's fun to drive.
Anonymous
My parents have a BMW and a Subaru. One of them is in for repairs WAY more than the other. (hint: It's not the Subaru)
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