What's the situation with contractors right now? Need a screened porch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fed gonna raise the rate another 3/4 point next month. Contractors will be taking it on the chin for the foreseeable future.

I don't want people to suffer, but I don't want to be paying obscene profits to these guys either. Working and middle class people cannot afford needed repairs. I need a new roof badly but have been putting it off because of insane quotes.

You could sell and move to a less expensive house.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fed gonna raise the rate another 3/4 point next month. Contractors will be taking it on the chin for the foreseeable future.

I don't want people to suffer, but I don't want to be paying obscene profits to these guys either. Working and middle class people cannot afford needed repairs. I need a new roof badly but have been putting it off because of insane quotes.

Prices will come down. When it costs more to borrow, the only place to find relief is in the cost. It might take a second but it will, I promise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fed gonna raise the rate another 3/4 point next month. Contractors will be taking it on the chin for the foreseeable future.

I don't want people to suffer, but I don't want to be paying obscene profits to these guys either. Working and middle class people cannot afford needed repairs. I need a new roof badly but have been putting it off because of insane quotes.

You could sell and move to a less expensive house.

yes because it is so easy to find these inexpensive houses you speak of

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is what I posed in another thread. However we have since received the final invoice and we are up to 83k




I’m in loudoun county and am waiting on final building and electrical inspection next for my brand new screened in porch. Here are my specs:

Trex transcend all composite build
20x20, plus an 8x12 open area for grilling (a total of 500sqft of decking)
3 infrared 6000w heaters
5 sconces
6 uplights
Ceiling fan
Wainscot covering the house side wall, painted ceiling
2 oversized sky lights
TV
Remote controlled floor to ceiling solar shades that can cover the entire screened in area for full privacy.

Everything, including all materials I had to get in my own is sitting at 80k. My screened in porch is not basic, lots of extras.

Can you share the name of your contractor?

This is great but I wouldn’t count on being able to build a trex screened porch anywhere in town. I don’t think you can do that on a brick colonial in Bethesda.

I know nothing of brick colonials and wasn’t aware of a trex transcend ban in Bethesda. However I did just finish a trex transcend screened in deck on my home in Bethesda. Had no issues either permitting other than the process is a colossal pain in the ass. The finished product is amazing and looks so nice. I got the contractor from a neighbor who also had a trex transcend deck…..in Bethesda.

Great! I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with Trex! Just that houses from different eras have different construction, municipalities and lots have different rules about impermeable surfaces, and that may affect what you can or can't build. Whatever you do has to be structurally kosher and to code, which means you can't always translate what happens in one area to another. That's all. I'm just trying to give OP some info. Jeez.

Your statement was bizarre " I wouldn’t count on being able to build a trex screened porch anywhere in town". You people speak out of your asses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is what I posed in another thread. However we have since received the final invoice and we are up to 83k




I’m in loudoun county and am waiting on final building and electrical inspection next for my brand new screened in porch. Here are my specs:

Trex transcend all composite build
20x20, plus an 8x12 open area for grilling (a total of 500sqft of decking)
3 infrared 6000w heaters
5 sconces
6 uplights
Ceiling fan
Wainscot covering the house side wall, painted ceiling
2 oversized sky lights
TV
Remote controlled floor to ceiling solar shades that can cover the entire screened in area for full privacy.

Everything, including all materials I had to get in my own is sitting at 80k. My screened in porch is not basic, lots of extras.

Can you share the name of your contractor?

This is great but I wouldn’t count on being able to build a trex screened porch anywhere in town. I don’t think you can do that on a brick colonial in Bethesda.

I know nothing of brick colonials and wasn’t aware of a trex transcend ban in Bethesda. However I did just finish a trex transcend screened in deck on my home in Bethesda. Had no issues either permitting other than the process is a colossal pain in the ass. The finished product is amazing and looks so nice. I got the contractor from a neighbor who also had a trex transcend deck…..in Bethesda.

Great! I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with Trex! Just that houses from different eras have different construction, municipalities and lots have different rules about impermeable surfaces, and that may affect what you can or can't build. Whatever you do has to be structurally kosher and to code, which means you can't always translate what happens in one area to another. That's all. I'm just trying to give OP some info. Jeez.

Your statement was bizarre " I wouldn’t count on being able to build a trex screened porch anywhere in town". You people speak out of your asses.

Like for example if your screened porch wasn’t down a hill from the main house.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Really?

I need ground prep and concrete base. 3 walls with aluminium posts and mesh with single screen door. A single roof in the continuation of our existing roof. Electric installed for fan and light. No fireplace, hardwood, fireplace, gizmos, etc.

It’s basically an addition because of the requirements for the roof. Indeed, most people eventually just enclose them anyway.

Not really - if it's essentially a screened patio, there's no insulation, no drywall, no flooring, minimal painting because no walls... If contractors are charging $70K for that type of work, I don't believe you. But I can believe that some close-in luxury contractors might not accept such a humble project, or they'd mark it up just because they're looking for bigger things.

So what should a screened patio cost? I have a brick patio. I am envisioning some poles bolted into the brick, probably some kind of barrier between the siding and the pole where the screens meet the exterior wall, and a metal roof - If you've ever been to the Pope-Leighey House, that is what I have in mind. What should that cost me? What is likely to cost me in the DMV?

$75-100k. If there isn’t already a roof, the patio is meaningless. The PP above is wrong. You have to have a proper foundation with a structure that can support a roof that can hold a snow load and keep it from blowing away in high winds, that’s integrated into your existing roof. You can’t just slap a roof on some poles above your patio like you were stringing lights.

My patio actually does have a foundation, so if that is the reason for the bulk of the cost ... Where is a modern-day Frank Lloyd Wright when you need him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Really?

I need ground prep and concrete base. 3 walls with aluminium posts and mesh with single screen door. A single roof in the continuation of our existing roof. Electric installed for fan and light. No fireplace, hardwood, fireplace, gizmos, etc.

It’s basically an addition because of the requirements for the roof. Indeed, most people eventually just enclose them anyway.

Not really - if it's essentially a screened patio, there's no insulation, no drywall, no flooring, minimal painting because no walls... If contractors are charging $70K for that type of work, I don't believe you. But I can believe that some close-in luxury contractors might not accept such a humble project, or they'd mark it up just because they're looking for bigger things.

So what should a screened patio cost? I have a brick patio. I am envisioning some poles bolted into the brick, probably some kind of barrier between the siding and the pole where the screens meet the exterior wall, and a metal roof - If you've ever been to the Pope-Leighey House, that is what I have in mind. What should that cost me? What is likely to cost me in the DMV?

$75-100k. If there isn’t already a roof, the patio is meaningless. The PP above is wrong. You have to have a proper foundation with a structure that can support a roof that can hold a snow load and keep it from blowing away in high winds, that’s integrated into your existing roof. You can’t just slap a roof on some poles above your patio like you were stringing lights.

My patio actually does have a foundation, so if that is the reason for the bulk of the cost ... Where is a modern-day Frank Lloyd Wright when you need him?

Was your patio specifically built with footers to support the porch? Inspected and permitted for that?

[Anonymous]

This should be about 29k

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Really?

I need ground prep and concrete base. 3 walls with aluminium posts and mesh with single screen door. A single roof in the continuation of our existing roof. Electric installed for fan and light. No fireplace, hardwood, fireplace, gizmos, etc.

It’s basically an addition because of the requirements for the roof. Indeed, most people eventually just enclose them anyway.

Not really - if it's essentially a screened patio, there's no insulation, no drywall, no flooring, minimal painting because no walls... If contractors are charging $70K for that type of work, I don't believe you. But I can believe that some close-in luxury contractors might not accept such a humble project, or they'd mark it up just because they're looking for bigger things.

So what should a screened patio cost? I have a brick patio. I am envisioning some poles bolted into the brick, probably some kind of barrier between the siding and the pole where the screens meet the exterior wall, and a metal roof - If you've ever been to the Pope-Leighey House, that is what I have in mind. What should that cost me? What is likely to cost me in the DMV?

$75-100k. If there isn’t already a roof, the patio is meaningless. The PP above is wrong. You have to have a proper foundation with a structure that can support a roof that can hold a snow load and keep it from blowing away in high winds, that’s integrated into your existing roof. You can’t just slap a roof on some poles above your patio like you were stringing lights.

My patio actually does have a foundation, so if that is the reason for the bulk of the cost ... Where is a modern-day Frank Lloyd Wright when you need him?

Are you sure about that?

“The House of Moderate Cost”
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/10/frank-lloyd-wright-low-income-client-librarian-edith-carlson.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fed gonna raise the rate another 3/4 point next month. Contractors will be taking it on the chin for the foreseeable future.

I don't want people to suffer, but I don't want to be paying obscene profits to these guys either. Working and middle class people cannot afford needed repairs. I need a new roof badly but have been putting it off because of insane quotes.

You could sell and move to a less expensive house.

Gross. Gentrification at its finest.

[Anonymous]

The good news is that if we do go into a recession then that might help you get a contractor faster. The bad news is that there are still supply chain issues so stuff continues to be backed up.

[Anonymous]

My DH it’s a construction company and does everything outside pools, decks, porches, gazebos, outdoor kitchens, hard scape, landscape installation. He’s booked solid for the next 18 months and isn’t even taking any mitre estimates in. Only extra work he’s sneaking in is prior clients who need small jobs and that’s only IF he has firm time waiting in supplies or something. He could expand his business, but there’s no labor so he’s making do with his long term loyal crew