Duke vs Rice

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Anonymous wrote:Rice belongs to a certain tier of schools (the others are WashU, Emory, Tufts, maybe Vanderbilt) that are all sort of non-descript, almost-elite-but-not-quite schools that don't really have any distinguishing, standout characteristics and are all sort of interchangeable. Duke is the way to go.

False, Rice stands out quite a bit due to its residential college system.

What distinguishing, standout characteristics does Duke have? Northwestern?

Duke and Northwestern are both indisputably elite and have top 10 programs in a range of fields. Duke is one of the top 5 schools for pre-meds and a top pipeline to consulting and IB. Northwestern is the top media school with all the attendant top-ranking programs in journalism, communications, music, theatre, while also having strong STEM. Also has a M7 business school.

Neither are indisputably elite. The only indisputably elite universities are HYPSM + Caltech for physics/engineering, which is why that acronym exists.

A top 5 school for pre-med is a meaningless statement. There is no such thing.

Duke is not a top pipeline for elite consulting/IB - the Ivies are. Duke does get recruited from, but they aren't at the top of the heap by any measure.

Northwestern is a top media school, which would be relevant if one is studying media. It's not elite in any STEM. Having a M7 business school is meaningless, we are talking about undergrad.

Both are strong academically while having a heavy party and sports culture and a very wealthy student population. That's an extremely common set of characteristics for most universities, including Vanderbilt.

Rice is unique in that it's much smaller and much more focused on undergrads. Its total student population is equivalent to Duke and Northwestern's undergraduate populations alone. It has a residential college system, something that very few colleges have in the US.

Northwestern is top ranking in the world for several STEM disciplines such as materials science, chemistry, and economics.

Duke is more of a target for IB and consulting than several Ivies. In fact, so is Northwestern. Duke is also beginning a residential college system. It's not that unique.

Your assessment rings false.

Those world rankings are based on grad school and research. They have nothing to do with this conversation.

Please support your statement that Duke is a target for IB and consulting more so than anyone else.

The fact that Duke is starting a residential college system does not mean that meaningful versions of this system are not rare. In fact they are. We’ll see whether Duke successfully pukka it off.

[Anonymous]

I see the NW booster has found this thread, and found a way to interject a school that is irrelevant to the conversation into several posts. Yawn, no one cares.

[Anonymous]

Rice 'strength' is in engineering, and only #19

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see the NW booster has found this thread, and found a way to interject a school that is irrelevant to the conversation into several posts. Yawn, no one cares.

If you actually read through the post, it's not a "NW booster", it's a Rice booster who brought Northwestern into the conversation. The lack of reading comprehension is stunning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see the NW booster has found this thread, and found a way to interject a school that is irrelevant to the conversation into several posts. Yawn, no one cares.

If you actually read through the post, it's not a "NW booster", it's a Rice booster who brought Northwestern into the conversation. The lack of reading comprehension is stunning.

Oh please, your posts reek of condescension and are easily identifiable. It was a throwaway reference, not something that required multiple responses about a school op’s child is not considering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see the NW booster has found this thread, and found a way to interject a school that is irrelevant to the conversation into several posts. Yawn, no one cares.

If you actually read through the post, it's not a "NW booster", it's a Rice booster who brought Northwestern into the conversation. The lack of reading comprehension is stunning.

Oh please, your posts reek of condescension and are easily identifiable. It was a throwaway reference, not something that required multiple responses about a school op’s child is not considering.

The classic deflection and ad hominem because you got caught. I'm not even the poster you're referring to, but nice try.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rice belongs to a certain tier of schools (the others are WashU, Emory, Tufts, maybe Vanderbilt) that are all sort of non-descript, almost-elite-but-not-quite schools that don't really have any distinguishing, standout characteristics and are all sort of interchangeable. Duke is the way to go.

False, Rice stands out quite a bit due to its residential college system.

What distinguishing, standout characteristics does Duke have? Northwestern?

Duke and Northwestern are both indisputably elite and have top 10 programs in a range of fields. Duke is one of the top 5 schools for pre-meds and a top pipeline to consulting and IB. Northwestern is the top media school with all the attendant top-ranking programs in journalism, communications, music, theatre, while also having strong STEM. Also has a M7 business school.

Neither are indisputably elite. The only indisputably elite universities are HYPSM + Caltech for physics/engineering, which is why that acronym exists.

A top 5 school for pre-med is a meaningless statement. There is no such thing.

Duke is not a top pipeline for elite consulting/IB - the Ivies are. Duke does get recruited from, but they aren't at the top of the heap by any measure.

Northwestern is a top media school, which would be relevant if one is studying media. It's not elite in any STEM. Having a M7 business school is meaningless, we are talking about undergrad.

Both are strong academically while having a heavy party and sports culture and a very wealthy student population. That's an extremely common set of characteristics for most universities, including Vanderbilt.

Rice is unique in that it's much smaller and much more focused on undergrads. Its total student population is equivalent to Duke and Northwestern's undergraduate populations alone. It has a residential college system, something that very few colleges have in the US.

Northwestern is top ranking in the world for several STEM disciplines such as materials science, chemistry, and economics.

Duke is more of a target for IB and consulting than several Ivies. In fact, so is Northwestern. Duke is also beginning a residential college system. It's not that unique.

Your assessment rings false.

Economics is not a STEM discipline. Being ranked in the top 10 by USNews for two narrow disciplines does not make Northwestern elite in STEM.

The number of targets for elite consulting/IB is small. Duke and Northwestern are both very much middle of the road targets, by no means "top pipeline". The top targets are Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, University of Pennsylvania, Dartmouth, Brown. Perhaps Duke and Northwestern are equivalent to Cornell for recruiting, but that is only because Cornell is twice the size.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rice belongs to a certain tier of schools (the others are WashU, Emory, Tufts, maybe Vanderbilt) that are all sort of non-descript, almost-elite-but-not-quite schools that don't really have any distinguishing, standout characteristics and are all sort of interchangeable. Duke is the way to go.

False, Rice stands out quite a bit due to its residential college system.

What distinguishing, standout characteristics does Duke have? Northwestern?

Duke and Northwestern are both indisputably elite and have top 10 programs in a range of fields. Duke is one of the top 5 schools for pre-meds and a top pipeline to consulting and IB. Northwestern is the top media school with all the attendant top-ranking programs in journalism, communications, music, theatre, while also having strong STEM. Also has a M7 business school.

Neither are indisputably elite. The only indisputably elite universities are HYPSM + Caltech for physics/engineering, which is why that acronym exists.

A top 5 school for pre-med is a meaningless statement. There is no such thing.

Duke is not a top pipeline for elite consulting/IB - the Ivies are. Duke does get recruited from, but they aren't at the top of the heap by any measure.

Northwestern is a top media school, which would be relevant if one is studying media. It's not elite in any STEM. Having a M7 business school is meaningless, we are talking about undergrad.

Both are strong academically while having a heavy party and sports culture and a very wealthy student population. That's an extremely common set of characteristics for most universities, including Vanderbilt.

Rice is unique in that it's much smaller and much more focused on undergrads. Its total student population is equivalent to Duke and Northwestern's undergraduate populations alone. It has a residential college system, something that very few colleges have in the US.

Northwestern is top ranking in the world for several STEM disciplines such as materials science, chemistry, and economics.

Duke is more of a target for IB and consulting than several Ivies. In fact, so is Northwestern. Duke is also beginning a residential college system. It's not that unique.

Your assessment rings false.

Economics is not a STEM discipline. Being ranked in the top 10 by USNews for two narrow disciplines does not make Northwestern elite in STEM.

The number of targets for elite consulting/IB is small. Duke and Northwestern are both very much middle of the road targets, by no means "top pipeline". The top targets are Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, University of Pennsylvania, Dartmouth, Brown. Perhaps Duke and Northwestern are equivalent to Cornell for recruiting, but that is only because Cornell is twice the size.

Economics is officially designated as a STEM discipline by most institutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rice belongs to a certain tier of schools (the others are WashU, Emory, Tufts, maybe Vanderbilt) that are all sort of non-descript, almost-elite-but-not-quite schools that don't really have any distinguishing, standout characteristics and are all sort of interchangeable. Duke is the way to go.

False, Rice stands out quite a bit due to its residential college system.

What distinguishing, standout characteristics does Duke have? Northwestern?

Duke and Northwestern are both indisputably elite and have top 10 programs in a range of fields. Duke is one of the top 5 schools for pre-meds and a top pipeline to consulting and IB. Northwestern is the top media school with all the attendant top-ranking programs in journalism, communications, music, theatre, while also having strong STEM. Also has a M7 business school.

Neither are indisputably elite. The only indisputably elite universities are HYPSM + Caltech for physics/engineering, which is why that acronym exists.

A top 5 school for pre-med is a meaningless statement. There is no such thing.

Duke is not a top pipeline for elite consulting/IB - the Ivies are. Duke does get recruited from, but they aren't at the top of the heap by any measure.

Northwestern is a top media school, which would be relevant if one is studying media. It's not elite in any STEM. Having a M7 business school is meaningless, we are talking about undergrad.

Both are strong academically while having a heavy party and sports culture and a very wealthy student population. That's an extremely common set of characteristics for most universities, including Vanderbilt.

Rice is unique in that it's much smaller and much more focused on undergrads. Its total student population is equivalent to Duke and Northwestern's undergraduate populations alone. It has a residential college system, something that very few colleges have in the US.

Northwestern is top ranking in the world for several STEM disciplines such as materials science, chemistry, and economics.

Duke is more of a target for IB and consulting than several Ivies. In fact, so is Northwestern. Duke is also beginning a residential college system. It's not that unique.

Your assessment rings false.

Economics is not a STEM discipline. Being ranked in the top 10 by USNews for two narrow disciplines does not make Northwestern elite in STEM.

The number of targets for elite consulting/IB is small. Duke and Northwestern are both very much middle of the road targets, by no means "top pipeline". The top targets are Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, University of Pennsylvania, Dartmouth, Brown. Perhaps Duke and Northwestern are equivalent to Cornell for recruiting, but that is only because Cornell is twice the size.

I don't know about IB but I worked for 6 years at MBB and can definitively say that both Duke and Northwestern were targets for MBB more so than Dartmouth and Brown, at the very least. Rice wasn't even in the equation, though I was based in NYC. I'm sure Rice has a strong regional presence in Texas/the Southeast.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rice belongs to a certain tier of schools (the others are WashU, Emory, Tufts, maybe Vanderbilt) that are all sort of non-descript, almost-elite-but-not-quite schools that don't really have any distinguishing, standout characteristics and are all sort of interchangeable. Duke is the way to go.

I would say a kind collaborative fun yet academically focused culture for RICE.

This -- plus, if your kid doesn't want fraternities or sororities then Rice is the right pick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rice belongs to a certain tier of schools (the others are WashU, Emory, Tufts, maybe Vanderbilt) that are all sort of non-descript, almost-elite-but-not-quite schools that don't really have any distinguishing, standout characteristics and are all sort of interchangeable. Duke is the way to go.

False, Rice stands out quite a bit due to its residential college system.

What distinguishing, standout characteristics does Duke have? Northwestern?

Duke and Northwestern are both indisputably elite and have top 10 programs in a range of fields. Duke is one of the top 5 schools for pre-meds and a top pipeline to consulting and IB. Northwestern is the top media school with all the attendant top-ranking programs in journalism, communications, music, theatre, while also having strong STEM. Also has a M7 business school.

But WashU and Emory also have top 10 programs but isn't elite?