MLS Next in High School- Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the MLS Next training schedule substantially more rigorous than the ECNL training schedule for high school boys, such that it would justify the rule against MLS Next players playing HS soccer?

Probably depends on the teams, but the MLSNext rule is not in place, or primarily in place, as an injury-prevention measure. The league’s overarching goal is to train professionals, and the clubs want the players they are investing in to train almost year-round in accordance with what the club thinks is the best training environment for those players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the MLS Next training schedule substantially more rigorous than the ECNL training schedule for high school boys, such that it would justify the rule against MLS Next players playing HS soccer?

Probably depends on the teams, but the MLSNext rule is not in place, or primarily in place, as an injury-prevention measure. The league’s overarching goal is to train professionals, and the clubs want the players they are investing in to train almost year-round in accordance with what the club thinks is the best training environment for those players.

Either that, or more cynically, to have a longer season so coaches would get paid year round.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where do you draw the line when you actively choose to break a league’s rules? Are you willing to lie about a player’s age? To do a roster switch undercover at a showcase/tournament? When you gave the attitude that rules don’t apply to you because you are so special, they only apply for everyone else, you have poor character.

That is true. It's also true that being a busybody and interfering in a dispute between two other people in order to benefit yourself or your child is an example of poor character.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Mdmom22 wrote:Just wanted to point out that from my understanding, if an MLSNext student is getting a scholarship to play soccer in high school, MLSNext allows that student to play both in MLSNext and in high school. Of course this is irrelevant to MLSNext kids playing in public school but I think there is a possibility to do both (play MLSNext and in high school) without violating any MLSNext rules.

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Kids lie about this in private HS. They aren’t giving scholarships out for soccer. And most of the kid playing are not getting financial aid with the $ to pay for the private school and elite pay-to-play.

Unless you play basketball or football you ain’t getting a scholarship at our HS. If you want to call financial aid a scholarship - possibly. But I know fairly wealthy kids doing this at some around the DMV.

I don't know of any kids getting scholarships to play soccer in local schools. I do know of kids who have been recruited from this area and offered scholarships to play at private schools in other states.

[Anonymous]

AnonymousNOT wrote:So I have attended a few High School games already and have noticed some MSL Next players from SYC playing High School soccer at various schools.

According to MLS Next rules and regulations, players are NOT allowed to play High School soccer.

If Alexandria can do the right thing and follow MLS Next rules why can't SYC do the same?

You must to know that many ASA players. I know several who play for their high schools in Alexandria and DC. They got waivers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

AnonymousNOT wrote:So I have attended a few High School games already and have noticed some MSL Next players from SYC playing High School soccer at various schools.

According to MLS Next rules and regulations, players are NOT allowed to play High School soccer.

If Alexandria can do the right thing and follow MLS Next rules why can't SYC do the same?

You must to know that many ASA players. I know several who play for their high schools in Alexandria and DC. They got waivers.

I think ASA allows kids to do this by nominating them as a "future" player. But this has consequences for the player in terms of how many games he's allowed to play for ASA. Kids who played for high school without doing this got cut by ASA last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

AnonymousNOT wrote:So I have attended a few High School games already and have noticed some MSL Next players from SYC playing High School soccer at various schools.

According to MLS Next rules and regulations, players are NOT allowed to play High School soccer.

If Alexandria can do the right thing and follow MLS Next rules why can't SYC do the same?

You must to know that many ASA players. I know several who play for their high schools in Alexandria and DC. They got waivers.

I think ASA allows kids to do this by nominating them as a "future" player. But this has consequences for the player in terms of how many games he's allowed to play for ASA. Kids who played for high school without doing this got cut by ASA last year.

I know 3 kids doing this for high school, they are not futures players and they start most MLS games. Not going to state the year, because people seem snarky about it. They're nice kids. ASA knows.

[Anonymous]

The MLS NEXT high school waiver allows for players "who were accepted into a private high school based on their participation with the high school soccer team."

It does not require that athletes be on scholarship for soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

AnonymousNOT wrote:So I have attended a few High School games already and have noticed some MSL Next players from SYC playing High School soccer at various schools.

According to MLS Next rules and regulations, players are NOT allowed to play High School soccer.

If Alexandria can do the right thing and follow MLS Next rules why can't SYC do the same?

You must to know that many ASA players. I know several who play for their high schools in Alexandria and DC. They got waivers.

YES. OMG. I know a bunch of Alexandria MLS players that play for their high schools.

[Anonymous]

My son is a senior and just joined an MLSNext team. There is no way who could do both. High school level sucks, even at his school that wins. There is literally no competition and you don't get better playing--you get worse by missing the top training with your club team. Also, you just can't miss that many MLSnext training sessions (our high school has games and practices every afternoon/evening) and remain top. The skill level is awful in high school and the speed of play slow. Then--with inexperienced players on many of the high school teams you are at a much greater risk of getting hurt.

I really don't care if mls kids play or not. My younger son has a few on his high school team and they somehow make it work but it is easier in the younger years--not so much for upperclassmen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

AnonymousNOT wrote:So I have attended a few High School games already and have noticed some MSL Next players from SYC playing High School soccer at various schools.

According to MLS Next rules and regulations, players are NOT allowed to play High School soccer.

If Alexandria can do the right thing and follow MLS Next rules why can't SYC do the same?

You must to know that many ASA players. I know several who play for their high schools in Alexandria and DC. They got waivers.

I think ASA allows kids to do this by nominating them as a "future" player. But this has consequences for the player in terms of how many games he's allowed to play for ASA. Kids who played for high school without doing this got cut by ASA last year.

I know 3 kids doing this for high school, they are not futures players and they start most MLS games. Not going to state the year, because people seem snarky about it. They're nice kids. ASA knows.

Maybe this varies from coach to coach? Defintely at least one player (a starter) got cut from ASA for doing this last year when he got discovered.

[Anonymous]

ECNL takes a break for the high school soccer season. MLS does not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ECNL takes a break for the high school soccer season. MLS does not.

Well---not if your kid is on an ECNL team and plays a Fall HS season. My kid is at a private school currently playing Fall HS and his ECNL team is in full swing.

This sucks because he's trying to juggle both, but most of his teammates play HS in the spring and the coach does not care if they come to any of the spring practices (90% of the team will miss club practice in the spring) --and so the few kids also in the same boat as my kid. The other kids don't get any consequences for never showing up for practice then, but a Fall kid doing both misses 1 or 2 for a HS game and gets crap.

My older son just gave up both and does MLS Next. It gets too much of a PIA to juggle both when Fall is really a dominant season for Club soccer.

[Anonymous]

SoccerSkeptic wrote:

whothey wrote:

AnonymousNOT wrote:

Cruzado wrote:

AnonymousNOT wrote:So I have attended a few High School games already and have noticed some MSL Next players from SYC playing High School soccer at various schools.

According to MLS Next rules and regulations, players are NOT allowed to play High School soccer.

If Alexandria can do the right thing and follow MLS Next rules why can't SYC do the same?

Give SYC the benefit of the doubt -- maybe they don't know that one of their players is also playing for his HS team in violation of the rules.

I'd report it to SYC. I'd also report it to MLS Next. It's unfair and poor sportsmanship to flout the rules of the league.

This is not one or two MLS Next players in HS teams. The kids know them and talk about it. This is not a HS problem but, once again, SYC breaking the rules.

What rule is SYC breaking?

Did you not read any of the posts in this thread? MLSNext players aren't allowed to play high school soccer.

Well MLS Next should remain intellectually honest. They aren’t. There are exceptions to this ‘no high school’ rule if you play for your PRIVATE school. Kids see the contradiction. I would not adhere to a rule that is biased for class.

[Anonymous]

Here is a link to the MLS Next HS waiver form. Principal/head master needs to sign as well —> https://images.mlssoccer.com/image/upload/v1691075453/assets/documents/MLS_NEXT_High_School_Waiver_2023-2024_Final.pdf