VMPI is not dead

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VMPI is not dead in Loudoun. They already took it and ran with it. They couldn’t care less than Youngkin got rid of it! Full steam ahead!

VMPI is dead everywhere FFS.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Or does it just come naturally?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VMPI is not dead in Loudoun. They already took it and ran with it. They couldn’t care less than Youngkin got rid of it! Full steam ahead!

VMPI is dead everywhere FFS.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Or does it just come naturally?

I understand that the state has done away with it. I’m telling you, as a parent of a rising 6th grader and rising 9th grader in Loudoun, that LCPS already took the equity framework and ran with it. And they are not backpedaling or changing course because Youngkin got rid of it. It just had to do course selection for my child entering middle school. The curriculum is unrecognizable from 3 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VMPI is not dead in Loudoun. They already took it and ran with it. They couldn’t care less than Youngkin got rid of it! Full steam ahead!

VMPI is dead everywhere FFS.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Or does it just come naturally?

I understand that the state has done away with it. I’m telling you, as a parent of a rising 6th grader and rising 9th grader in Loudoun, that LCPS already took the equity framework and ran with it. And they are not backpedaling or changing course because Youngkin got rid of it. It just had to do course selection for my child entering middle school. The curriculum is unrecognizable from 3 years ago.

LCPS can do what they want. That’s not VMPI. Equity in mathematics isn’t a VDOE/VMPI invention.

How is this “unrecognizable”:
https://sites.google.com/lcps.org/lcps-program-of-studies-22-23/ms-math

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VMPI is not dead in Loudoun. They already took it and ran with it. They couldn’t care less than Youngkin got rid of it! Full steam ahead!

VMPI is dead everywhere FFS.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Or does it just come naturally?

I understand that the state has done away with it. I’m telling you, as a parent of a rising 6th grader and rising 9th grader in Loudoun, that LCPS already took the equity framework and ran with it. And they are not backpedaling or changing course because Youngkin got rid of it. It just had to do course selection for my child entering middle school. The curriculum is unrecognizable from 3 years ago.

LCPS can do what they want. That’s not VMPI. Equity in mathematics isn’t a VDOE/VMPI invention.

How is this “unrecognizable”:
https://sites.google.com/lcps.org/lcps-program-of-studies-22-23/ms-math

Math 6/7 no longer exists. It was available without testing in. It took the Math 7 SOL. And it fed into Algebra in 7th. And it was a 6th grade class full of 6th graders.

Now, if you take Pre Algebra (and kids can’t pass the test they created) you are in a class full of 7th graders and have to take the Math 8 SOL. It’s not the same at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VMPI is not dead in Loudoun. They already took it and ran with it. They couldn’t care less than Youngkin got rid of it! Full steam ahead!

VMPI is dead everywhere FFS.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Or does it just come naturally?

I understand that the state has done away with it. I’m telling you, as a parent of a rising 6th grader and rising 9th grader in Loudoun, that LCPS already took the equity framework and ran with it. And they are not backpedaling or changing course because Youngkin got rid of it. It just had to do course selection for my child entering middle school. The curriculum is unrecognizable from 3 years ago.

LCPS can do what they want. That’s not VMPI. Equity in mathematics isn’t a VDOE/VMPI invention.

How is this “unrecognizable”:
https://sites.google.com/lcps.org/lcps-program-of-studies-22-23/ms-math

Math 6/7 no longer exists. It was available without testing in. It took the Math 7 SOL. And it fed into Algebra in 7th. And it was a 6th grade class full of 6th graders.

Now, if you take Pre Algebra (and kids can’t pass the test they created) you are in a class full of 7th graders and have to take the Math 8 SOL. It’s not the same at all.

So one class is different but it effectively offers the same path (A1 in 7th), just slightly more rigorous?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Math 6/7 no longer exists. It was available without testing in. It took the Math 7 SOL. And it fed into Algebra in 7th. And it was a 6th grade class full of 6th graders.

Now, if you take Pre Algebra (and kids can’t pass the test they created) you are in a class full of 7th graders and have to take the Math 8 SOL. It’s not the same at all.

So one class is different but it effectively offers the same path (A1 in 7th), just slightly more rigorous?

The numbers are way down. It used to be Algebra in 7th grade was taken by about half the kids. Now it is down to the small number(3%) who qualified for prealgebra in 6th. However, it could be that they are recommending a large number of kids to take algebra in 7th without taking the prealgebra.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[

I understand that the state has done away with it. I’m telling you, as a parent of a rising 6th grader and rising 9th grader in Loudoun, that LCPS already took the equity framework and ran with it. And they are not backpedaling or changing course because Youngkin got rid of it. It just had to do course selection for my child entering middle school. The curriculum is unrecognizable from 3 years ago.

They have backpedaled slightly, and you can request your elementary principal contact Wendy King for testing to go into algebra.
However, it appears results are way down for admission even into pre-algebra.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[

I understand that the state has done away with it. I’m telling you, as a parent of a rising 6th grader and rising 9th grader in Loudoun, that LCPS already took the equity framework and ran with it. And they are not backpedaling or changing course because Youngkin got rid of it. It just had to do course selection for my child entering middle school. The curriculum is unrecognizable from 3 years ago.

They have backpedaled slightly, and you can request your elementary principal contact Wendy King for testing to go into algebra.
However, it appears results are way down for admission even into pre-algebra.

I guess that’s what happens when they raise the bar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VMPI is not dead in Loudoun. They already took it and ran with it. They couldn’t care less than Youngkin got rid of it! Full steam ahead!

VMPI is dead everywhere FFS.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Or does it just come naturally?

I understand that the state has done away with it. I’m telling you, as a parent of a rising 6th grader and rising 9th grader in Loudoun, that LCPS already took the equity framework and ran with it. And they are not backpedaling or changing course because Youngkin got rid of it. It just had to do course selection for my child entering middle school. The curriculum is unrecognizable from 3 years ago.

Thanks PP for the update from Loudoun!

I believe you, and I am seeing similar actions by the SB and Superintendent Brabrand here in our county (FFX).

Like Loudoun, school officials are ignoring the spirit of the executive order, and pushing ahead with VMPI, while claiming “its not actually VMPI.” (yeah, right). Their changes are different in name only.

As to the person arguing with you?

- she’s the notorious “VMPI troll” on this board.

Pre EO, she bent over backwards to promise “nothing would change” under VMPI, but that it was crucial to adopt VMPI. She was never able to explain why we “needed” VMPI.

She also resorts to nasty name-calling when challenged. Just ignore her (or report her to Jeff).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VMPI is not dead in Loudoun. They already took it and ran with it. They couldn’t care less than Youngkin got rid of it! Full steam ahead!

VMPI is dead everywhere FFS.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Or does it just come naturally?

I understand that the state has done away with it. I’m telling you, as a parent of a rising 6th grader and rising 9th grader in Loudoun, that LCPS already took the equity framework and ran with it. And they are not backpedaling or changing course because Youngkin got rid of it. It just had to do course selection for my child entering middle school. The curriculum is unrecognizable from 3 years ago.

Thanks PP for the update from Loudoun!

I believe you, and I am seeing similar actions by the SB and Superintendent Brabrand here in our county (FFX).

Like Loudoun, school officials are ignoring the spirit of the executive order, and pushing ahead with VMPI, while claiming “its not actually VMPI.” (yeah, right). Their changes are different in name only.

As to the person arguing with you?

- she’s the notorious “VMPI troll” on this board.

Pre EO, she bent over backwards to promise “nothing would change” under VMPI, but that it was crucial to adopt VMPI. She was never able to explain why we “needed” VMPI.

She also resorts to nasty name-calling when challenged. Just ignore her (or report her to Jeff).

So many lies in a single post - impressive.

In fact, not a single thing you said is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VMPI is not dead in Loudoun. They already took it and ran with it. They couldn’t care less than Youngkin got rid of it! Full steam ahead!

VMPI is dead everywhere FFS.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Or does it just come naturally?

I understand that the state has done away with it. I’m telling you, as a parent of a rising 6th grader and rising 9th grader in Loudoun, that LCPS already took the equity framework and ran with it. And they are not backpedaling or changing course because Youngkin got rid of it. It just had to do course selection for my child entering middle school. The curriculum is unrecognizable from 3 years ago.

Thanks PP for the update from Loudoun!

I believe you, and I am seeing similar actions by the SB and Superintendent Brabrand here in our county (FFX).

Like Loudoun, school officials are ignoring the spirit of the executive order, and pushing ahead with VMPI, while claiming “its not actually VMPI.” (yeah, right). Their changes are different in name only.

As to the person arguing with you?

- she’s the notorious “VMPI troll” on this board.

Pre EO, she bent over backwards to promise “nothing would change” under VMPI, but that it was crucial to adopt VMPI. She was never able to explain why we “needed” VMPI.

She also resorts to nasty name-calling when challenged. Just ignore her (or report her to Jeff).

So many lies in a single post - impressive.

In fact, not a single thing you said is true.

Troll - FFS, will you just drop it?

NOBODY believes your s*** about VMPI (under all its pseudonyms) just disappearing overnight because Governor Youngkin signed an EO.

FFX and Loudoun school boards are pushing ahead with as much of this as they can get away with.

It’s all part of the same plan - and we see through your lies now. Eliminating advanced math, getting rid of AAP, detracking, the awful 1619 project - you just keep pushing it all and won’t let go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VMPI is not dead in Loudoun. They already took it and ran with it. They couldn’t care less than Youngkin got rid of it! Full steam ahead!

VMPI is dead everywhere FFS.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Or does it just come naturally?

I understand that the state has done away with it. I’m telling you, as a parent of a rising 6th grader and rising 9th grader in Loudoun, that LCPS already took the equity framework and ran with it. And they are not backpedaling or changing course because Youngkin got rid of it. It just had to do course selection for my child entering middle school. The curriculum is unrecognizable from 3 years ago.

Thanks PP for the update from Loudoun!

I believe you, and I am seeing similar actions by the SB and Superintendent Brabrand here in our county (FFX).

Like Loudoun, school officials are ignoring the spirit of the executive order, and pushing ahead with VMPI, while claiming “its not actually VMPI.” (yeah, right). Their changes are different in name only.

As to the person arguing with you?

- she’s the notorious “VMPI troll” on this board.

Pre EO, she bent over backwards to promise “nothing would change” under VMPI, but that it was crucial to adopt VMPI. She was never able to explain why we “needed” VMPI.

She also resorts to nasty name-calling when challenged. Just ignore her (or report her to Jeff).

So many lies in a single post - impressive.

In fact, not a single thing you said is true.

Troll - FFS, will you just drop it?

NOBODY believes your s*** about VMPI (under all its pseudonyms) just disappearing overnight because Governor Youngkin signed an EO.

FFX and Loudoun school boards are pushing ahead with as much of this as they can get away with.

It’s all part of the same plan - and we see through your lies now. Eliminating advanced math, getting rid of AAP, detracking, the awful 1619 project - you just keep pushing it all and won’t let go.

GOP liars gonna lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[

I understand that the state has done away with it. I’m telling you, as a parent of a rising 6th grader and rising 9th grader in Loudoun, that LCPS already took the equity framework and ran with it. And they are not backpedaling or changing course because Youngkin got rid of it. It just had to do course selection for my child entering middle school. The curriculum is unrecognizable from 3 years ago.

They have backpedaled slightly, and you can request your elementary principal contact Wendy King for testing to go into algebra.
However, it appears results are way down for admission even into pre-algebra.

I guess that’s what happens when they raise the bar.

Is this raising of the bar justified? If they're seeing that too many kids are over accelerated but faltering later, surely they have some sort of data indicating as much. I'm all for restricting acceleration when the data supports it. I'm guessing, though, that there's nothing at all in the data to suggest that accelerated kids are struggling, but instead it's being used as an excuse for social engineering. The optics are bad when the highest math tracks have entirely too few URMs and entirely "too many" Asian kids. The easiest fix is to restrict qualified (largely Asian) kids from accessing the top math tracks, so the demographics look better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[

I understand that the state has done away with it. I’m telling you, as a parent of a rising 6th grader and rising 9th grader in Loudoun, that LCPS already took the equity framework and ran with it. And they are not backpedaling or changing course because Youngkin got rid of it. It just had to do course selection for my child entering middle school. The curriculum is unrecognizable from 3 years ago.

They have backpedaled slightly, and you can request your elementary principal contact Wendy King for testing to go into algebra.
However, it appears results are way down for admission even into pre-algebra.

I guess that’s what happens when they raise the bar.

Is this raising of the bar justified? If they're seeing that too many kids are over accelerated but faltering later, surely they have some sort of data indicating as much. I'm all for restricting acceleration when the data supports it. I'm guessing, though, that there's nothing at all in the data to suggest that accelerated kids are struggling, but instead it's being used as an excuse for social engineering. The optics are bad when the highest math tracks have entirely too few URMs and entirely "too many" Asian kids. The easiest fix is to restrict qualified (largely Asian) kids from accessing the top math tracks, so the demographics look better.

They did this in APS several years ago because the math teachers said they weren’t seeing great outcomes in higher level math. You should ask LCPS for their reasons & supporting data, but it’s likely skewed by the pandemic.

If they reduce the # of kids doing advanced math the % of Asian in upper levels will probably *increase*.

[Anonymous]

VMPI troll is back to her usual childish name-calling.

But that really shows she has no cogent argument to make.