Road inequality in MoCo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just SS/Wheaton.

Head up county.

And you can immediately tell when you cross over from MoCo into FredCo. Driving between Damascus and Mt. Airy, or Clarksburg and Urbana, and suddenly, the roads become so much nicer.

And you know you've left MoCo

You definitely have not been to theses areas. There is no bad roads in Clarksburg at all

The person doesn’t know their geography, but the roads in Hyattstown are a joke and there is an obvious difference when Fredrick Rd passes into Urbana Pike.

[Anonymous]

I would love for MoCo to be broken up - maybe into 5 or 6 pieces? It’s just too big to govern properly.

[Anonymous]

Agreed. I especially think that in places like Germantown and Gaithersburg there are no safe pedestrian crossings or bike paths. I see the inequity.

What can ordinary citizens do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would love for MoCo to be broken up - maybe into 5 or 6 pieces? It’s just too big to govern properly.

Please. I am tired of subsidizing the entire county. States up north (Penn, NJ, Conn, NY etc) have townships. Let's go to that model. Your taxes go to pay for your public services in your town. Roads. Schools. Police. etc.

[Anonymous]

Same in Fairfax County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would love for MoCo to be broken up - maybe into 5 or 6 pieces? It’s just too big to govern properly.

Please. I am tired of subsidizing the entire county. States up north (Penn, NJ, Conn, NY etc) have townships. Let's go to that model. Your taxes go to pay for your public services in your town. Roads. Schools. Police. etc.

Montgomery County is too big to govern, however they will do everything that they can to undermine any effort for more of the county to incorporate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would love for MoCo to be broken up - maybe into 5 or 6 pieces? It’s just too big to govern properly.

Please. I am tired of subsidizing the entire county. States up north (Penn, NJ, Conn, NY etc) have townships. Let's go to that model. Your taxes go to pay for your public services in your town. Roads. Schools. Police. etc.

Ah yes this is the haves vs the have nots. The wealthier incorporated areas get great public services and luxuries. The poorer areas get poor services. Who cares if they get any services....they're the poors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Same in Fairfax County.

No it's not. VDOT maintains all of the roads in Fairfax. That has it's disadvantages, but overall road quality in wealthier parts of the county is not better than road quality in less affluent sections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would love for MoCo to be broken up - maybe into 5 or 6 pieces? It’s just too big to govern properly.

Please. I am tired of subsidizing the entire county. States up north (Penn, NJ, Conn, NY etc) have townships. Let's go to that model. Your taxes go to pay for your public services in your town. Roads. Schools. Police. etc.

Ah yes this is the haves vs the have nots. The wealthier incorporated areas get great public services and luxuries. The poorer areas get poor services. Who cares if they get any services....they're the poors.

+1

This is why racial and socioeconomic segregation is far greater in the aforementioned states. You can pen "the poors" into 10 square miles of incorporated land. Look no further than the disasters that are CT's cities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would love for MoCo to be broken up - maybe into 5 or 6 pieces? It’s just too big to govern properly.

Please. I am tired of subsidizing the entire county. States up north (Penn, NJ, Conn, NY etc) have townships. Let's go to that model. Your taxes go to pay for your public services in your town. Roads. Schools. Police. etc.

Horrible. NJ is a corrupt cesspit. The whole township model is a big reason for it. Property taxes are mindwarping in NJ, because each dumb township has to spend money for their own cops/fire depts/etc. A tremendous waste of resoures and tax dollars because of that model. Gotta love how MoCo people already complain about property taxes now, but then state they want a model that'd make taxes even worse.

[Anonymous]

Town and township models of local government worked 200+ years ago. Today they are obsolete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would love for MoCo to be broken up - maybe into 5 or 6 pieces? It’s just too big to govern properly.

Please. I am tired of subsidizing the entire county. States up north (Penn, NJ, Conn, NY etc) have townships. Let's go to that model. Your taxes go to pay for your public services in your town. Roads. Schools. Police. etc.

Horrible. NJ is a corrupt cesspit. The whole township model is a big reason for it. Property taxes are mindwarping in NJ, because each dumb township has to spend money for their own cops/fire depts/etc. A tremendous waste of resoures and tax dollars because of that model. Gotta love how MoCo people already complain about property taxes now, but then state they want a model that'd make taxes even worse.

Property taxes in Montgomery County are basically the same as most of northern Jersey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would love for MoCo to be broken up - maybe into 5 or 6 pieces? It’s just too big to govern properly.

Please. I am tired of subsidizing the entire county. States up north (Penn, NJ, Conn, NY etc) have townships. Let's go to that model. Your taxes go to pay for your public services in your town. Roads. Schools. Police. etc.

Horrible. NJ is a corrupt cesspit. The whole township model is a big reason for it. Property taxes are mindwarping in NJ, because each dumb township has to spend money for their own cops/fire depts/etc. A tremendous waste of resoures and tax dollars because of that model. Gotta love how MoCo people already complain about property taxes now, but then state they want a model that'd make taxes even worse.

Property taxes in Montgomery County are basically the same as most of northern Jersey.

Correct. It's like people don't think there is fraud and waste in our current county gov system?? I'd rather know where my money is going and actually see the investment then put in in this large county apparatus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The premise of this post is false and misunderstands a few things.

First, some of the absolute worst and lowest quality roads in this county are in Potomac, Poolesville and Boyd’s/Dickerson areas. You may want to venture out there some time because big parts of the agriculture reserve have been abandoned by the county in terms of government services, including road maintenance.

Second, the county is so adamantly refusing to maintain roads in the northwestern part of the county that many roads have been officially designated as “rustic roads”, which is a way to spin this divestment as a good thing.

Third, where there are newer quality roads, the only reason why they exist is because developers have paid for them through impact fees, which explains what is going on around Travilah. The county legally cannot collect those fees and use them for other purposes. So if there are poorly maintained roads in Takoma Park/Silver Spring, the easiest way to get that rectified is through getting your neighborhood upzoned so that a developer will come in and build some multi family housing.

Thank you. It’s so tiring reading of people who’ve jumped on the equity bandwagon in recent years, who lack critical reasoning skills, but can speak confidently out of their rear ends. Not everything is a massive equity battle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would love for MoCo to be broken up - maybe into 5 or 6 pieces? It’s just too big to govern properly.

Please. I am tired of subsidizing the entire county. States up north (Penn, NJ, Conn, NY etc) have townships. Let's go to that model. Your taxes go to pay for your public services in your town. Roads. Schools. Police. etc.

Horrible. NJ is a corrupt cesspit. The whole township model is a big reason for it. Property taxes are mindwarping in NJ, because each dumb township has to spend money for their own cops/fire depts/etc. A tremendous waste of resoures and tax dollars because of that model. Gotta love how MoCo people already complain about property taxes now, but then state they want a model that'd make taxes even worse.

Property taxes in Montgomery County are basically the same as most of northern Jersey.

That is delusional. I own a ~$1M house on 1/3 acre here and pay the same - around $8000 - as I do for my house in Jersey which is worth way less and on less than half that amount of land. And that’s in a shore town with a ton of town businesses, beach revenue, and crappy schools.

My friend in Short Hills has a house with about the same assessment and land amount as I have here - she pays $21K.