Does Your School Use Planned Parenthood for Health/ Sex Ed Classes?

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard that ours brings in PP DC for a program for middle schoolers but have never witnessed that myself. In any case, parents in NY are not happy about it, and I don't think I would be either. How is this any different from bringing in any group with a political bias -- Focus on the Family, for example?

It seems to me that agreeing to send one's kids to a private school does not confer permission to have them "educated" by an outside organization. Thoughts on that?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10439669/56-000-year-girls-Nightingale-school-NYC-blasted-workshop-Planned-Parenthood.html

Equating PP with Focus on the Family in terms of sex ed is not honest debate. PP may have political biases, but it is at its core a healthcare provider. You may disagree with the type of healthcare it provides in terms of abortion or hormone therapies or whatever, but those a very small percentage of what PP does. FOTF, on the other hand, is an evangelical church, and provides exactly zero actual healthcare to anyone. If you want your kids to have “abstinence only” sex ed or that there is no such thing as gender fluidity, by all means teach them at home or in Sunday school.

A healthcare provider that makes money by selling hormones to gender-confused teenagers. I don’t want my kids getting sex Ed from a group that thinks men menstruate and women have penises. This is not your mother’s PP. No thank you.

OP here, and this is what I think is important. Again, we are new at this school this year, so not sure that this will be an issue, but was informed that in past years, it has been announced by the MS head (or someone there) that PP is giving this class to the middle schoolers, and this is so great because PP is a credible, trusted source of information on this kind of thing. My radar immediately went off because, as one poster noted, I don't think the organization is anything like it was 10- 15 years ago when we were all supportive of them. But I am concerned that other parents aren't aware of that and they just hear "Planned Parenthood" and have nostalgic thoughts about women's marches we all attended in the '90s. Or something like that!

If your kid is attending a school that brings in PP for sex ed instruction, and that is a huge concern for you, then my guess is you and the school have very different values and you may want your kid going elsewhere. Seems pretty simple.

FWIW I don't have any concerns about having my DD, who is in middle school, being taught sex ed by Planned Parenthood. That content is not going to be teaching her anything she hasn't already heard at home.

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Totally agree. My wife and I do have very different values than PP, and would we pull our kids out of a school (public or private) that outsourced sex ed teaching to them.
Forgive me if this is already stated somewhere in the thread, but could somebody please say which school(s) are using PP for this? I would be willing to bet the farm that it is not our school, but these days you never know!

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard that ours brings in PP DC for a program for middle schoolers but have never witnessed that myself. In any case, parents in NY are not happy about it, and I don't think I would be either. How is this any different from bringing in any group with a political bias -- Focus on the Family, for example?

It seems to me that agreeing to send one's kids to a private school does not confer permission to have them "educated" by an outside organization. Thoughts on that?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10439669/56-000-year-girls-Nightingale-school-NYC-blasted-workshop-Planned-Parenthood.html

Equating PP with Focus on the Family in terms of sex ed is not honest debate. PP may have political biases, but it is at its core a healthcare provider. You may disagree with the type of healthcare it provides in terms of abortion or hormone therapies or whatever, but those a very small percentage of what PP does. FOTF, on the other hand, is an evangelical church, and provides exactly zero actual healthcare to anyone. If you want your kids to have “abstinence only” sex ed or that there is no such thing as gender fluidity, by all means teach them at home or in Sunday school.

A healthcare provider that makes money by selling hormones to gender-confused teenagers. I don’t want my kids getting sex Ed from a group that thinks men menstruate and women have penises. This is not your mother’s PP. No thank you.

OP here, and this is what I think is important. Again, we are new at this school this year, so not sure that this will be an issue, but was informed that in past years, it has been announced by the MS head (or someone there) that PP is giving this class to the middle schoolers, and this is so great because PP is a credible, trusted source of information on this kind of thing. My radar immediately went off because, as one poster noted, I don't think the organization is anything like it was 10- 15 years ago when we were all supportive of them. But I am concerned that other parents aren't aware of that and they just hear "Planned Parenthood" and have nostalgic thoughts about women's marches we all attended in the '90s. Or something like that!

If your kid is attending a school that brings in PP for sex ed instruction, and that is a huge concern for you, then my guess is you and the school have very different values and you may want your kid going elsewhere. Seems pretty simple.

FWIW I don't have any concerns about having my DD, who is in middle school, being taught sex ed by Planned Parenthood. That content is not going to be teaching her anything she hasn't already heard at home.

No, we do not have "very" different values with the school. That is absurd. I think many rational people do not like the idea of Planned Parenthood embracing a gender-neutral approach to teaching sex education. It's not science-based and obviously ideologically driven. My concern is that most parents are not aware of this slant.

Except if you go to one of the progressive DMV private schools, then you do have different values...at least different from what the administration is adopting and publicly espousing. Good luck raising the topic in any public way, but be prepared for you and your child to bear the wrath when you raise your hand. Others in fact may agree with you, but will not in a million years speak up about it.

NP. Please explain what you mean by "bear the wrath." I can't see what is wrong with speaking up on something like this, even if only to withdraw my child from the special class. What are you afraid that the school would do to you?

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard that ours brings in PP DC for a program for middle schoolers but have never witnessed that myself. In any case, parents in NY are not happy about it, and I don't think I would be either. How is this any different from bringing in any group with a political bias -- Focus on the Family, for example?

It seems to me that agreeing to send one's kids to a private school does not confer permission to have them "educated" by an outside organization. Thoughts on that?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10439669/56-000-year-girls-Nightingale-school-NYC-blasted-workshop-Planned-Parenthood.html

Equating PP with Focus on the Family in terms of sex ed is not honest debate. PP may have political biases, but it is at its core a healthcare provider. You may disagree with the type of healthcare it provides in terms of abortion or hormone therapies or whatever, but those a very small percentage of what PP does. FOTF, on the other hand, is an evangelical church, and provides exactly zero actual healthcare to anyone. If you want your kids to have “abstinence only” sex ed or that there is no such thing as gender fluidity, by all means teach them at home or in Sunday school.

A healthcare provider that makes money by selling hormones to gender-confused teenagers. I don’t want my kids getting sex Ed from a group that thinks men menstruate and women have penises. This is not your mother’s PP. No thank you.

OP here, and this is what I think is important. Again, we are new at this school this year, so not sure that this will be an issue, but was informed that in past years, it has been announced by the MS head (or someone there) that PP is giving this class to the middle schoolers, and this is so great because PP is a credible, trusted source of information on this kind of thing. My radar immediately went off because, as one poster noted, I don't think the organization is anything like it was 10- 15 years ago when we were all supportive of them. But I am concerned that other parents aren't aware of that and they just hear "Planned Parenthood" and have nostalgic thoughts about women's marches we all attended in the '90s. Or something like that!

If your kid is attending a school that brings in PP for sex ed instruction, and that is a huge concern for you, then my guess is you and the school have very different values and you may want your kid going elsewhere. Seems pretty simple.

FWIW I don't have any concerns about having my DD, who is in middle school, being taught sex ed by Planned Parenthood. That content is not going to be teaching her anything she hasn't already heard at home.

No, we do not have "very" different values with the school. That is absurd. I think many rational people do not like the idea of Planned Parenthood embracing a gender-neutral approach to teaching sex education. It's not science-based and obviously ideologically driven. My concern is that most parents are not aware of this slant.

Except if you go to one of the progressive DMV private schools, then you do have different values...at least different from what the administration is adopting and publicly espousing. Good luck raising the topic in any public way, but be prepared for you and your child to bear the wrath when you raise your hand. Others in fact may agree with you, but will not in a million years speak up about it.

NP. Please explain what you mean by "bear the wrath." I can't see what is wrong with speaking up on something like this, even if only to withdraw my child from the special class. What are you afraid that the school would do to you?

Let's just use a random example (this is totally random, so please don't anyone read into this). Your kid goes to Sidwell where they have progressive values and no one wants to be sideways with school administration. They use PP (again, no idea if they do, but would not be shocked if they do) for sexed.

Withdrawing from the class is far different then speaking up. You don't need to give any explanation to withdraw, just send a short email saying I don't want my kid participating. OK...no foul.

Now, let's say you go in and tell the administration that you don't agree with PP, don't agree with how they teach sexed, etc. It's a small community with many parents that disagree with your view...and word travels fast. Not only is your kid not participating in sexed, but everyone knows you went off about how much you disagree with PP. Hmmm...suddenly those playdates get more infrequent and you are given the cold shoulder. Administration then politely suggests maybe the school is not the best fit for you and your kid.

Plausible??

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard that ours brings in PP DC for a program for middle schoolers but have never witnessed that myself. In any case, parents in NY are not happy about it, and I don't think I would be either. How is this any different from bringing in any group with a political bias -- Focus on the Family, for example?

It seems to me that agreeing to send one's kids to a private school does not confer permission to have them "educated" by an outside organization. Thoughts on that?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10439669/56-000-year-girls-Nightingale-school-NYC-blasted-workshop-Planned-Parenthood.html

Equating PP with Focus on the Family in terms of sex ed is not honest debate. PP may have political biases, but it is at its core a healthcare provider. You may disagree with the type of healthcare it provides in terms of abortion or hormone therapies or whatever, but those a very small percentage of what PP does. FOTF, on the other hand, is an evangelical church, and provides exactly zero actual healthcare to anyone. If you want your kids to have “abstinence only” sex ed or that there is no such thing as gender fluidity, by all means teach them at home or in Sunday school.

A healthcare provider that makes money by selling hormones to gender-confused teenagers. I don’t want my kids getting sex Ed from a group that thinks men menstruate and women have penises. This is not your mother’s PP. No thank you.

OP here, and this is what I think is important. Again, we are new at this school this year, so not sure that this will be an issue, but was informed that in past years, it has been announced by the MS head (or someone there) that PP is giving this class to the middle schoolers, and this is so great because PP is a credible, trusted source of information on this kind of thing. My radar immediately went off because, as one poster noted, I don't think the organization is anything like it was 10- 15 years ago when we were all supportive of them. But I am concerned that other parents aren't aware of that and they just hear "Planned Parenthood" and have nostalgic thoughts about women's marches we all attended in the '90s. Or something like that!

If your kid is attending a school that brings in PP for sex ed instruction, and that is a huge concern for you, then my guess is you and the school have very different values and you may want your kid going elsewhere. Seems pretty simple.

FWIW I don't have any concerns about having my DD, who is in middle school, being taught sex ed by Planned Parenthood. That content is not going to be teaching her anything she hasn't already heard at home.

No, we do not have "very" different values with the school. That is absurd. I think many rational people do not like the idea of Planned Parenthood embracing a gender-neutral approach to teaching sex education. It's not science-based and obviously ideologically driven. My concern is that most parents are not aware of this slant.

Except if you go to one of the progressive DMV private schools, then you do have different values...at least different from what the administration is adopting and publicly espousing. Good luck raising the topic in any public way, but be prepared for you and your child to bear the wrath when you raise your hand. Others in fact may agree with you, but will not in a million years speak up about it.

NP. Please explain what you mean by "bear the wrath." I can't see what is wrong with speaking up on something like this, even if only to withdraw my child from the special class. What are you afraid that the school would do to you?

Let's just use a random example (this is totally random, so please don't anyone read into this). Your kid goes to Sidwell where they have progressive values and no one wants to be sideways with school administration. They use PP (again, no idea if they do, but would not be shocked if they do) for sexed.

Withdrawing from the class is far different then speaking up. You don't need to give any explanation to withdraw, just send a short email saying I don't want my kid participating. OK...no foul.

Now, let's say you go in and tell the administration that you don't agree with PP, don't agree with how they teach sexed, etc. It's a small community with many parents that disagree with your view...and word travels fast. Not only is your kid not participating in sexed, but everyone knows you went off about how much you disagree with PP. Hmmm...suddenly those playdates get more infrequent and you are given the cold shoulder. Administration then politely suggests maybe the school is not the best fit for you and your kid.

Plausible??

Yes, very plausible, in North Korea. Thank God my kids to not go to Sidwell or schools with a similar ideology and agenda to force it on every student and family.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard that ours brings in PP DC for a program for middle schoolers but have never witnessed that myself. In any case, parents in NY are not happy about it, and I don't think I would be either. How is this any different from bringing in any group with a political bias -- Focus on the Family, for example?

It seems to me that agreeing to send one's kids to a private school does not confer permission to have them "educated" by an outside organization. Thoughts on that?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10439669/56-000-year-girls-Nightingale-school-NYC-blasted-workshop-Planned-Parenthood.html

Equating PP with Focus on the Family in terms of sex ed is not honest debate. PP may have political biases, but it is at its core a healthcare provider. You may disagree with the type of healthcare it provides in terms of abortion or hormone therapies or whatever, but those a very small percentage of what PP does. FOTF, on the other hand, is an evangelical church, and provides exactly zero actual healthcare to anyone. If you want your kids to have “abstinence only” sex ed or that there is no such thing as gender fluidity, by all means teach them at home or in Sunday school.

A healthcare provider that makes money by selling hormones to gender-confused teenagers. I don’t want my kids getting sex Ed from a group that thinks men menstruate and women have penises. This is not your mother’s PP. No thank you.

OP here, and this is what I think is important. Again, we are new at this school this year, so not sure that this will be an issue, but was informed that in past years, it has been announced by the MS head (or someone there) that PP is giving this class to the middle schoolers, and this is so great because PP is a credible, trusted source of information on this kind of thing. My radar immediately went off because, as one poster noted, I don't think the organization is anything like it was 10- 15 years ago when we were all supportive of them. But I am concerned that other parents aren't aware of that and they just hear "Planned Parenthood" and have nostalgic thoughts about women's marches we all attended in the '90s. Or something like that!

If your kid is attending a school that brings in PP for sex ed instruction, and that is a huge concern for you, then my guess is you and the school have very different values and you may want your kid going elsewhere. Seems pretty simple.

FWIW I don't have any concerns about having my DD, who is in middle school, being taught sex ed by Planned Parenthood. That content is not going to be teaching her anything she hasn't already heard at home.

No, we do not have "very" different values with the school. That is absurd. I think many rational people do not like the idea of Planned Parenthood embracing a gender-neutral approach to teaching sex education. It's not science-based and obviously ideologically driven. My concern is that most parents are not aware of this slant.

Except if you go to one of the progressive DMV private schools, then you do have different values...at least different from what the administration is adopting and publicly espousing. Good luck raising the topic in any public way, but be prepared for you and your child to bear the wrath when you raise your hand. Others in fact may agree with you, but will not in a million years speak up about it.

NP. Please explain what you mean by "bear the wrath." I can't see what is wrong with speaking up on something like this, even if only to withdraw my child from the special class. What are you afraid that the school would do to you?

Let's just use a random example (this is totally random, so please don't anyone read into this). Your kid goes to Sidwell where they have progressive values and no one wants to be sideways with school administration. They use PP (again, no idea if they do, but would not be shocked if they do) for sexed.

Withdrawing from the class is far different then speaking up. You don't need to give any explanation to withdraw, just send a short email saying I don't want my kid participating. OK...no foul.

Now, let's say you go in and tell the administration that you don't agree with PP, don't agree with how they teach sexed, etc. It's a small community with many parents that disagree with your view...and word travels fast. Not only is your kid not participating in sexed, but everyone knows you went off about how much you disagree with PP. Hmmm...suddenly those playdates get more infrequent and you are given the cold shoulder. Administration then politely suggests maybe the school is not the best fit for you and your kid.

Plausible??

13:03 here, and thank you for this. I get what you're saying, but cannot understand how parents could send their kid to the hypothetical Sidwell or any school, with this level of fear of repercussion for speaking out. First, I sincerely doubt that even at Sidwell (again, hypothetical) "many" parents would disagree with this point of view. They may not speak out about it, but I guarantee you that most are either neutral or in silent agreement on the subject. No school - even the so-called "progressive" ones - have a parent body that is this homogenous in its thinking.

In 7th grade, we're past the point of worrying about playdates getting more infrequent and I, personally, couldn't care less if other parents gave me the cold shoulder. Not that I think it would even happen, but again, I don't understand this level of worry about what other people think. And the administration suggesting the school is not the best fit -- really? Again, thank you for your view, but I think this is just paranoia on your part.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard that ours brings in PP DC for a program for middle schoolers but have never witnessed that myself. In any case, parents in NY are not happy about it, and I don't think I would be either. How is this any different from bringing in any group with a political bias -- Focus on the Family, for example?

It seems to me that agreeing to send one's kids to a private school does not confer permission to have them "educated" by an outside organization. Thoughts on that?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10439669/56-000-year-girls-Nightingale-school-NYC-blasted-workshop-Planned-Parenthood.html

Equating PP with Focus on the Family in terms of sex ed is not honest debate. PP may have political biases, but it is at its core a healthcare provider. You may disagree with the type of healthcare it provides in terms of abortion or hormone therapies or whatever, but those a very small percentage of what PP does. FOTF, on the other hand, is an evangelical church, and provides exactly zero actual healthcare to anyone. If you want your kids to have “abstinence only” sex ed or that there is no such thing as gender fluidity, by all means teach them at home or in Sunday school.

A healthcare provider that makes money by selling hormones to gender-confused teenagers. I don’t want my kids getting sex Ed from a group that thinks men menstruate and women have penises. This is not your mother’s PP. No thank you.

OP here, and this is what I think is important. Again, we are new at this school this year, so not sure that this will be an issue, but was informed that in past years, it has been announced by the MS head (or someone there) that PP is giving this class to the middle schoolers, and this is so great because PP is a credible, trusted source of information on this kind of thing. My radar immediately went off because, as one poster noted, I don't think the organization is anything like it was 10- 15 years ago when we were all supportive of them. But I am concerned that other parents aren't aware of that and they just hear "Planned Parenthood" and have nostalgic thoughts about women's marches we all attended in the '90s. Or something like that!

If your kid is attending a school that brings in PP for sex ed instruction, and that is a huge concern for you, then my guess is you and the school have very different values and you may want your kid going elsewhere. Seems pretty simple.

FWIW I don't have any concerns about having my DD, who is in middle school, being taught sex ed by Planned Parenthood. That content is not going to be teaching her anything she hasn't already heard at home.

No, we do not have "very" different values with the school. That is absurd. I think many rational people do not like the idea of Planned Parenthood embracing a gender-neutral approach to teaching sex education. It's not science-based and obviously ideologically driven. My concern is that most parents are not aware of this slant.

Except if you go to one of the progressive DMV private schools, then you do have different values...at least different from what the administration is adopting and publicly espousing. Good luck raising the topic in any public way, but be prepared for you and your child to bear the wrath when you raise your hand. Others in fact may agree with you, but will not in a million years speak up about it.

NP. Please explain what you mean by "bear the wrath." I can't see what is wrong with speaking up on something like this, even if only to withdraw my child from the special class. What are you afraid that the school would do to you?

Let's just use a random example (this is totally random, so please don't anyone read into this). Your kid goes to Sidwell where they have progressive values and no one wants to be sideways with school administration. They use PP (again, no idea if they do, but would not be shocked if they do) for sexed.

Withdrawing from the class is far different then speaking up. You don't need to give any explanation to withdraw, just send a short email saying I don't want my kid participating. OK...no foul.

Now, let's say you go in and tell the administration that you don't agree with PP, don't agree with how they teach sexed, etc. It's a small community with many parents that disagree with your view...and word travels fast. Not only is your kid not participating in sexed, but everyone knows you went off about how much you disagree with PP. Hmmm...suddenly those playdates get more infrequent and you are given the cold shoulder. Administration then politely suggests maybe the school is not the best fit for you and your kid.

Plausible??

13:03 here, and thank you for this. I get what you're saying, but cannot understand how parents could send their kid to the hypothetical Sidwell or any school, with this level of fear of repercussion for speaking out. First, I sincerely doubt that even at Sidwell (again, hypothetical) "many" parents would disagree with this point of view. They may not speak out about it, but I guarantee you that most are either neutral or in silent agreement on the subject. No school - even the so-called "progressive" ones - have a parent body that is this homogenous in its thinking.

In 7th grade, we're past the point of worrying about playdates getting more infrequent and I, personally, couldn't care less if other parents gave me the cold shoulder. Not that I think it would even happen, but again, I don't understand this level of worry about what other people think. And the administration suggesting the school is not the best fit -- really? Again, thank you for your view, but I think this is just paranoia on your part.

Read the numerous articles written about Dalton and other NYC prep schools. Or this article about Brentwood School in Los Angeles: https://www.lamag.com/mag-features/brentwood-school-feature/

These fights are more about anti-racist teachings, but analogous. Sure, other parents may agree with you on the side and cheer you on...but don't expect them to accompany you or agree to name them when you talk to the administration.

The only parents really going on the record are the ones that have withdrawn their students already, so they have nothing to lose from the school.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard that ours brings in PP DC for a program for middle schoolers but have never witnessed that myself. In any case, parents in NY are not happy about it, and I don't think I would be either. How is this any different from bringing in any group with a political bias -- Focus on the Family, for example?

It seems to me that agreeing to send one's kids to a private school does not confer permission to have them "educated" by an outside organization. Thoughts on that?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10439669/56-000-year-girls-Nightingale-school-NYC-blasted-workshop-Planned-Parenthood.html

Equating PP with Focus on the Family in terms of sex ed is not honest debate. PP may have political biases, but it is at its core a healthcare provider. You may disagree with the type of healthcare it provides in terms of abortion or hormone therapies or whatever, but those a very small percentage of what PP does. FOTF, on the other hand, is an evangelical church, and provides exactly zero actual healthcare to anyone. If you want your kids to have “abstinence only” sex ed or that there is no such thing as gender fluidity, by all means teach them at home or in Sunday school.

A healthcare provider that makes money by selling hormones to gender-confused teenagers. I don’t want my kids getting sex Ed from a group that thinks men menstruate and women have penises. This is not your mother’s PP. No thank you.

OP here, and this is what I think is important. Again, we are new at this school this year, so not sure that this will be an issue, but was informed that in past years, it has been announced by the MS head (or someone there) that PP is giving this class to the middle schoolers, and this is so great because PP is a credible, trusted source of information on this kind of thing. My radar immediately went off because, as one poster noted, I don't think the organization is anything like it was 10- 15 years ago when we were all supportive of them. But I am concerned that other parents aren't aware of that and they just hear "Planned Parenthood" and have nostalgic thoughts about women's marches we all attended in the '90s. Or something like that!

If your kid is attending a school that brings in PP for sex ed instruction, and that is a huge concern for you, then my guess is you and the school have very different values and you may want your kid going elsewhere. Seems pretty simple.

FWIW I don't have any concerns about having my DD, who is in middle school, being taught sex ed by Planned Parenthood. That content is not going to be teaching her anything she hasn't already heard at home.

No, we do not have "very" different values with the school. That is absurd. I think many rational people do not like the idea of Planned Parenthood embracing a gender-neutral approach to teaching sex education. It's not science-based and obviously ideologically driven. My concern is that most parents are not aware of this slant.

Except if you go to one of the progressive DMV private schools, then you do have different values...at least different from what the administration is adopting and publicly espousing. Good luck raising the topic in any public way, but be prepared for you and your child to bear the wrath when you raise your hand. Others in fact may agree with you, but will not in a million years speak up about it.

NP. Please explain what you mean by "bear the wrath." I can't see what is wrong with speaking up on something like this, even if only to withdraw my child from the special class. What are you afraid that the school would do to you?

Let's just use a random example (this is totally random, so please don't anyone read into this). Your kid goes to Sidwell where they have progressive values and no one wants to be sideways with school administration. They use PP (again, no idea if they do, but would not be shocked if they do) for sexed.

Withdrawing from the class is far different then speaking up. You don't need to give any explanation to withdraw, just send a short email saying I don't want my kid participating. OK...no foul.

Now, let's say you go in and tell the administration that you don't agree with PP, don't agree with how they teach sexed, etc. It's a small community with many parents that disagree with your view...and word travels fast. Not only is your kid not participating in sexed, but everyone knows you went off about how much you disagree with PP. Hmmm...suddenly those playdates get more infrequent and you are given the cold shoulder. Administration then politely suggests maybe the school is not the best fit for you and your kid.

Plausible??

13:03 here, and thank you for this. I get what you're saying, but cannot understand how parents could send their kid to the hypothetical Sidwell or any school, with this level of fear of repercussion for speaking out. First, I sincerely doubt that even at Sidwell (again, hypothetical) "many" parents would disagree with this point of view. They may not speak out about it, but I guarantee you that most are either neutral or in silent agreement on the subject. No school - even the so-called "progressive" ones - have a parent body that is this homogenous in its thinking.

In 7th grade, we're past the point of worrying about playdates getting more infrequent and I, personally, couldn't care less if other parents gave me the cold shoulder. Not that I think it would even happen, but again, I don't understand this level of worry about what other people think. And the administration suggesting the school is not the best fit -- really? Again, thank you for your view, but I think this is just paranoia on your part.

Read the numerous articles written about Dalton and other NYC prep schools. Or this article about Brentwood School in Los Angeles: https://www.lamag.com/mag-features/brentwood-school-feature/

These fights are more about anti-racist teachings, but analogous. Sure, other parents may agree with you on the side and cheer you on...but don't expect them to accompany you or agree to name them when you talk to the administration.

The only parents really going on the record are the ones that have withdrawn their students already, so they have nothing to lose from the school.

Best quote from the Brentwood Article:

Parents, meanwhile, feel like the school has already been transformed beyond recognition. At least one parent plans to homeschool next year. Another will change schools. But many parents don’t see leaving as an option. Brentwood was tough to get into, and their children are happy there, they say. A lot of families fear that if they complain too much, the school could ask them to leave and that other places might refuse to admit their children.

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Anonymous wrote:They are not telling your kids to take political positions. They are literally talking about the birds and the bees.

Settle down, Francis.

Really? By using non gendered terminology? Sorry; that’s a hard pass, Francis

+100. There's nothing radical about using non-gendered terminology. You, too, will know someone non-binary. You probably already do--maybe they just don't want to share it with you.

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Look, they're coming in to talk about anatomy, pregnancy, STIs, healthy relationships, consent negotiation, gender and sexual orientation. Why does it scare you so much if they're allowing for the existence of trans people?

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Anonymous wrote:Look, they're coming in to talk about anatomy, pregnancy, STIs, healthy relationships, consent negotiation, gender and sexual orientation. Why does it scare you so much if they're allowing for the existence of trans people?

Because that is a mental state, not a biological orientation.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard that ours brings in PP DC for a program for middle schoolers but have never witnessed that myself. In any case, parents in NY are not happy about it, and I don't think I would be either. How is this any different from bringing in any group with a political bias -- Focus on the Family, for example?

It seems to me that agreeing to send one's kids to a private school does not confer permission to have them "educated" by an outside organization. Thoughts on that?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10439669/56-000-year-girls-Nightingale-school-NYC-blasted-workshop-Planned-Parenthood.html

Equating PP with Focus on the Family in terms of sex ed is not honest debate. PP may have political biases, but it is at its core a healthcare provider. You may disagree with the type of healthcare it provides in terms of abortion or hormone therapies or whatever, but those a very small percentage of what PP does. FOTF, on the other hand, is an evangelical church, and provides exactly zero actual healthcare to anyone. If you want your kids to have “abstinence only” sex ed or that there is no such thing as gender fluidity, by all means teach them at home or in Sunday school.

A healthcare provider that makes money by selling hormones to gender-confused teenagers. I don’t want my kids getting sex Ed from a group that thinks men menstruate and women have penises. This is not your mother’s PP. No thank you.

OP here, and this is what I think is important. Again, we are new at this school this year, so not sure that this will be an issue, but was informed that in past years, it has been announced by the MS head (or someone there) that PP is giving this class to the middle schoolers, and this is so great because PP is a credible, trusted source of information on this kind of thing. My radar immediately went off because, as one poster noted, I don't think the organization is anything like it was 10- 15 years ago when we were all supportive of them. But I am concerned that other parents aren't aware of that and they just hear "Planned Parenthood" and have nostalgic thoughts about women's marches we all attended in the '90s. Or something like that!

If your kid is attending a school that brings in PP for sex ed instruction, and that is a huge concern for you, then my guess is you and the school have very different values and you may want your kid going elsewhere. Seems pretty simple.

FWIW I don't have any concerns about having my DD, who is in middle school, being taught sex ed by Planned Parenthood. That content is not going to be teaching her anything she hasn't already heard at home.

No, we do not have "very" different values with the school. That is absurd. I think many rational people do not like the idea of Planned Parenthood embracing a gender-neutral approach to teaching sex education. It's not science-based and obviously ideologically driven. My concern is that most parents are not aware of this slant.

Except if you go to one of the progressive DMV private schools, then you do have different values...at least different from what the administration is adopting and publicly espousing. Good luck raising the topic in any public way, but be prepared for you and your child to bear the wrath when you raise your hand. Others in fact may agree with you, but will not in a million years speak up about it.

NP. Please explain what you mean by "bear the wrath." I can't see what is wrong with speaking up on something like this, even if only to withdraw my child from the special class. What are you afraid that the school would do to you?

Let's just use a random example (this is totally random, so please don't anyone read into this). Your kid goes to Sidwell where they have progressive values and no one wants to be sideways with school administration. They use PP (again, no idea if they do, but would not be shocked if they do) for sexed.

Withdrawing from the class is far different then speaking up. You don't need to give any explanation to withdraw, just send a short email saying I don't want my kid participating. OK...no foul.

Now, let's say you go in and tell the administration that you don't agree with PP, don't agree with how they teach sexed, etc. It's a small community with many parents that disagree with your view...and word travels fast. Not only is your kid not participating in sexed, but everyone knows you went off about how much you disagree with PP. Hmmm...suddenly those playdates get more infrequent and you are given the cold shoulder. Administration then politely suggests maybe the school is not the best fit for you and your kid.

Plausible??

Totally plausible. That is exactly the situation I am in at my DC’s private. I am very against all the progressive agenda mixed into the curriculum and speaker series. Yet I am to say mum because I would be in the minority who feels like this. It’s easier to switch schools than to fight the DEI complex. Especially when you think of how many high and powerful people send their kids to these schools. The silencing is real.