Example of APE Astroturf tactics - textbooks

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if APE is going to opine on CRT and masks?

Anyone seen this from them?

Turner commented on masks on AEM. It was a pretty funny word salad.

Interesting. From APE or Turner?

and just a comment on AEM, that's it? Really? This is the group that issues press releases and newsletters left and right but they can't put out a public statement on masks? I guess they don't want to.

Turner doesn’t want to admit they support Youngkin’s order. It won’t help her secure the Dem caucus endorsement when she inevitably runs again this year.

I would never vote for Miranda. If she’s the nominee I will write someone in.

Especially now. If she doesn't support masks, ZERO chance I could ever vote for her.

Yes, why would we ever trust her if she can't make a stand based on science/data on this very clear cut issue. She is pandering to the nut jobs.

She and APE are not taking a stand. Their press release yesterday was completely devoid of substance. Another word salad from her.

It's not word salad to say "our group doesn't take a stand on this issue." She made pretty clear that they support open schools and want whatever keeps schools open. Getting baited into taking a stand on everything that hits the news isn't good for an organization in the long run, and you're just angry that they aren't playing your game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not in Arlington. What or who is APE?

Started as group of parents who were teacher-hating, screaming at SB meetings, open schools at all costs. Now they are trying to pivot to political lobbying on general educational issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if APE is going to opine on CRT and masks?

Anyone seen this from them?

Turner commented on masks on AEM. It was a pretty funny word salad.

Interesting. From APE or Turner?

and just a comment on AEM, that's it? Really? This is the group that issues press releases and newsletters left and right but they can't put out a public statement on masks? I guess they don't want to.

Turner doesn’t want to admit they support Youngkin’s order. It won’t help her secure the Dem caucus endorsement when she inevitably runs again this year.

I would never vote for Miranda. If she’s the nominee I will write someone in.

Especially now. If she doesn't support masks, ZERO chance I could ever vote for her.

Yes, why would we ever trust her if she can't make a stand based on science/data on this very clear cut issue. She is pandering to the nut jobs.

She and APE are not taking a stand. Their press release yesterday was completely devoid of substance. Another word salad from her.

It's not word salad to say "our group doesn't take a stand on this issue." She made pretty clear that they support open schools and want whatever keeps schools open. Getting baited into taking a stand on everything that hits the news isn't good for an organization in the long run, and you're just angry that they aren't playing your game.

Right. So she's pandering to the RWNJs instead of "following the science".

Wearing masks will play a big role in keeping kids in the classrooms. Isn't that one of their core interests? Why wouldn't they comment on that? It's very telling that they won't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that the textbook publishers have become captive to the Texas market. Rather than prepare multiple editions for red states and blue states they figure it's easier to just meet the requirements of the dumbest most watered down state.

So in effect by pushing a return to "textbooks" these people are actually trying to get local curricula to follow Texas requirements.

This. My mom used to work for a textbook publisher and she said it was all about what Texas wanted. And, if they did something that wasn't Texas-aligned it would be aligned with Common Core. Since VA doesn't follow common core it makes it even more difficult to work with textbooks.

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Anonymous wrote:I have nothing to do with APE but last year's virtual learning math made it abundantly clear that we need math text books. My 2nd grader did so so little math last year. The kids just didn't do enough problems to become comfortable with math facts or concepts. It was really bad.

I bought a set of Singapore Math workbooks and my kid has been doing extra practice. They basically follow the APS curriculum and are really good. They are not like the textbooks we grew up with--they teach concepts, practice the concepts and then ask for kids to take the concepts further through multistep problems. I wish APS would adopt something similar. They're great.

Oh, and you do hear teachers complain about lack of resources, particularly when they switch grades. It's a ton of work to develop a whole new curriculum to meet Virginia standards on your own. Teachers will beg and borrow materials from other teachers when they switch grades, but APS gives them nothing. They are dependent on their own network to source resources. It's embarrassing.

This. I don't know that a specific "textbook" is the answer but we should not have individual teachers recreating the wheel. The district should be providing the curriculum and teaching resources.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if APE is going to opine on CRT and masks?

Anyone seen this from them?

Turner commented on masks on AEM. It was a pretty funny word salad.

Interesting. From APE or Turner?

and just a comment on AEM, that's it? Really? This is the group that issues press releases and newsletters left and right but they can't put out a public statement on masks? I guess they don't want to.

Turner doesn’t want to admit they support Youngkin’s order. It won’t help her secure the Dem caucus endorsement when she inevitably runs again this year.

I would never vote for Miranda. If she’s the nominee I will write someone in.

Especially now. If she doesn't support masks, ZERO chance I could ever vote for her.

Yes, why would we ever trust her if she can't make a stand based on science/data on this very clear cut issue. She is pandering to the nut jobs.

She and APE are not taking a stand. Their press release yesterday was completely devoid of substance. Another word salad from her.

It's not word salad to say "our group doesn't take a stand on this issue." She made pretty clear that they support open schools and want whatever keeps schools open. Getting baited into taking a stand on everything that hits the news isn't good for an organization in the long run, and you're just angry that they aren't playing your game.

Right. So she's pandering to the RWNJs instead of "following the science".

Wearing masks will play a big role in keeping kids in the classrooms. Isn't that one of their core interests? Why wouldn't they comment on that? It's very telling that they won't.

It’s called “staying in your lane”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have nothing to do with APE but last year's virtual learning math made it abundantly clear that we need math text books. My 2nd grader did so so little math last year. The kids just didn't do enough problems to become comfortable with math facts or concepts. It was really bad.

I bought a set of Singapore Math workbooks and my kid has been doing extra practice. They basically follow the APS curriculum and are really good. They are not like the textbooks we grew up with--they teach concepts, practice the concepts and then ask for kids to take the concepts further through multistep problems. I wish APS would adopt something similar. They're great.

Oh, and you do hear teachers complain about lack of resources, particularly when they switch grades. It's a ton of work to develop a whole new curriculum to meet Virginia standards on your own. Teachers will beg and borrow materials from other teachers when they switch grades, but APS gives them nothing. They are dependent on their own network to source resources. It's embarrassing.

This. I don't know that a specific "textbook" is the answer but we should not have individual teachers recreating the wheel. The district should be providing the curriculum and teaching resources.

LOL, I work here, I've seen many teachers having to learn the math concept right before they go teach them, for example, ask other teachers how to "compare fractions" right before the lesson is taught - meaning otherwise she wouldn't know how to do it! This teacher in this very particular example is very kind, loving, and supportive of her students, but she has almost no math content knowledge, oh, she was "teacher of the year" one year. She isn't the only one who doesn't qualify to teach math, like I said, I've seen many.

My point is, give those teachers a textbook to follow, even better, a text book with a comprehensive "teacher guide", because, trust me, many teachers are bad at math themselves and aren't even shy about admitting it in public. Most can get by in 1st and 2nd grade when kids are still being taught how to add and subtract, but by 4th or 5th grade, some teachers probably can't even pass the math SOL of the grade level they teach.

P.S. examples I mentioned are from one of the APS elementary schools

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Anonymous wrote:I have nothing to do with APE but last year's virtual learning math made it abundantly clear that we need math text books. My 2nd grader did so so little math last year. The kids just didn't do enough problems to become comfortable with math facts or concepts. It was really bad.

I bought a set of Singapore Math workbooks and my kid has been doing extra practice. They basically follow the APS curriculum and are really good. They are not like the textbooks we grew up with--they teach concepts, practice the concepts and then ask for kids to take the concepts further through multistep problems. I wish APS would adopt something similar. They're great.

Oh, and you do hear teachers complain about lack of resources, particularly when they switch grades. It's a ton of work to develop a whole new curriculum to meet Virginia standards on your own. Teachers will beg and borrow materials from other teachers when they switch grades, but APS gives them nothing. They are dependent on their own network to source resources. It's embarrassing.

This. I don't know that a specific "textbook" is the answer but we should not have individual teachers recreating the wheel. The district should be providing the curriculum and teaching resources.

LOL, I work here, I've seen many teachers having to learn the math concept right before they go teach them, for example, ask other teachers how to "compare fractions" right before the lesson is taught - meaning otherwise she wouldn't know how to do it! This teacher in this very particular example is very kind, loving, and supportive of her students, but she has almost no math content knowledge, oh, she was "teacher of the year" one year. She isn't the only one who doesn't qualify to teach math, like I said, I've seen many.

My point is, give those teachers a textbook to follow, even better, a text book with a comprehensive "teacher guide", because, trust me, many teachers are bad at math themselves and aren't even shy about admitting it in public. Most can get by in 1st and 2nd grade when kids are still being taught how to add and subtract, but by 4th or 5th grade, some teachers probably can't even pass the math SOL of the grade level they teach.

P.S. examples I mentioned are from one of the APS elementary schools

+1. It's crazy that APS expects teachers just to work from the VA SOLs. No wonder teachers are burnt out. And please don't suggest that Bridget Loft's team should make resources. Everything they put put during the pandemic for elementary was embarrassingly bad. Just vet and buy good resources.

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Anonymous wrote:I have nothing to do with APE but last year's virtual learning math made it abundantly clear that we need math text books. My 2nd grader did so so little math last year. The kids just didn't do enough problems to become comfortable with math facts or concepts. It was really bad.

I bought a set of Singapore Math workbooks and my kid has been doing extra practice. They basically follow the APS curriculum and are really good. They are not like the textbooks we grew up with--they teach concepts, practice the concepts and then ask for kids to take the concepts further through multistep problems. I wish APS would adopt something similar. They're great.

Oh, and you do hear teachers complain about lack of resources, particularly when they switch grades. It's a ton of work to develop a whole new curriculum to meet Virginia standards on your own. Teachers will beg and borrow materials from other teachers when they switch grades, but APS gives them nothing. They are dependent on their own network to source resources. It's embarrassing.

This. I don't know that a specific "textbook" is the answer but we should not have individual teachers recreating the wheel. The district should be providing the curriculum and teaching resources.

LOL, I work here, I've seen many teachers having to learn the math concept right before they go teach them, for example, ask other teachers how to "compare fractions" right before the lesson is taught - meaning otherwise she wouldn't know how to do it! This teacher in this very particular example is very kind, loving, and supportive of her students, but she has almost no math content knowledge, oh, she was "teacher of the year" one year. She isn't the only one who doesn't qualify to teach math, like I said, I've seen many.

My point is, give those teachers a textbook to follow, even better, a text book with a comprehensive "teacher guide", because, trust me, many teachers are bad at math themselves and aren't even shy about admitting it in public. Most can get by in 1st and 2nd grade when kids are still being taught how to add and subtract, but by 4th or 5th grade, some teachers probably can't even pass the math SOL of the grade level they teach.

P.S. examples I mentioned are from one of the APS elementary schools

+1. It's crazy that APS expects teachers just to work from the VA SOLs. No wonder teachers are burnt out. And please don't suggest that Bridget Loft's team should make resources. Everything they put put during the pandemic for elementary was embarrassingly bad. Just vet and buy good resources.

The "embarrassingly bad" learning materials you saw during the lock down was always there, you and other parents never saw it before COVID lock down, but they were always there. So yes, we need good textbooks. Math in particular should be taught in a systematic way, we cannot expect teachers to create their own math curriculum just by following a 1.5 page long Virginia Standards of Learning - going on Pintrest for ideas, find some "printables" on Teachers pay teachers.com, or copy some worksheets here and there - THIS DOES NOT WORK

No wonder so many kids are bad at math.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if APE is going to opine on CRT and masks?

Anyone seen this from them?

Turner commented on masks on AEM. It was a pretty funny word salad.

Interesting. From APE or Turner?

and just a comment on AEM, that's it? Really? This is the group that issues press releases and newsletters left and right but they can't put out a public statement on masks? I guess they don't want to.

Turner doesn’t want to admit they support Youngkin’s order. It won’t help her secure the Dem caucus endorsement when she inevitably runs again this year.

I would never vote for Miranda. If she’s the nominee I will write someone in.

Especially now. If she doesn't support masks, ZERO chance I could ever vote for her.

Yes, why would we ever trust her if she can't make a stand based on science/data on this very clear cut issue. She is pandering to the nut jobs.

She and APE are not taking a stand. Their press release yesterday was completely devoid of substance. Another word salad from her.

It's not word salad to say "our group doesn't take a stand on this issue." She made pretty clear that they support open schools and want whatever keeps schools open. Getting baited into taking a stand on everything that hits the news isn't good for an organization in the long run, and you're just angry that they aren't playing your game.

Right. So she's pandering to the RWNJs instead of "following the science".

Wearing masks will play a big role in keeping kids in the classrooms. Isn't that one of their core interests? Why wouldn't they comment on that? It's very telling that they won't.

It’s called “staying in your lane”

It's called "pandering to the RWNJs in your group".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have nothing to do with APE but last year's virtual learning math made it abundantly clear that we need math text books. My 2nd grader did so so little math last year. The kids just didn't do enough problems to become comfortable with math facts or concepts. It was really bad.

I bought a set of Singapore Math workbooks and my kid has been doing extra practice. They basically follow the APS curriculum and are really good. They are not like the textbooks we grew up with--they teach concepts, practice the concepts and then ask for kids to take the concepts further through multistep problems. I wish APS would adopt something similar. They're great.

Oh, and you do hear teachers complain about lack of resources, particularly when they switch grades. It's a ton of work to develop a whole new curriculum to meet Virginia standards on your own. Teachers will beg and borrow materials from other teachers when they switch grades, but APS gives them nothing. They are dependent on their own network to source resources. It's embarrassing.

This. I don't know that a specific "textbook" is the answer but we should not have individual teachers recreating the wheel. The district should be providing the curriculum and teaching resources.

Yup. If VA wants to customize the curriculum instead of using Common Core they should provide materials for teachers. Including some reference materials (online textbooks) for students.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if APE is going to opine on CRT and masks?

Anyone seen this from them?

Turner commented on masks on AEM. It was a pretty funny word salad.

Interesting. From APE or Turner?

and just a comment on AEM, that's it? Really? This is the group that issues press releases and newsletters left and right but they can't put out a public statement on masks? I guess they don't want to.

Turner doesn’t want to admit they support Youngkin’s order. It won’t help her secure the Dem caucus endorsement when she inevitably runs again this year.

I would never vote for Miranda. If she’s the nominee I will write someone in.

Especially now. If she doesn't support masks, ZERO chance I could ever vote for her.

Yes, why would we ever trust her if she can't make a stand based on science/data on this very clear cut issue. She is pandering to the nut jobs.

She and APE are not taking a stand. Their press release yesterday was completely devoid of substance. Another word salad from her.

It's not word salad to say "our group doesn't take a stand on this issue." She made pretty clear that they support open schools and want whatever keeps schools open. Getting baited into taking a stand on everything that hits the news isn't good for an organization in the long run, and you're just angry that they aren't playing your game.

Right. So she's pandering to the RWNJs instead of "following the science".

Wearing masks will play a big role in keeping kids in the classrooms. Isn't that one of their core interests? Why wouldn't they comment on that? It's very telling that they won't.

It’s called “staying in your lane”

This is their lane. They lobbied for test to stay, they lobbied on quarantines. They even had a position on freakin math pathways for god's sake.

This is a copout. They don't support masks. That's obvious. They can't because they have too many nutjobs in their base who are antimask.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if APE is going to opine on CRT and masks?

Anyone seen this from them?

Turner commented on masks on AEM. It was a pretty funny word salad.

Interesting. From APE or Turner?

and just a comment on AEM, that's it? Really? This is the group that issues press releases and newsletters left and right but they can't put out a public statement on masks? I guess they don't want to.

Turner doesn’t want to admit they support Youngkin’s order. It won’t help her secure the Dem caucus endorsement when she inevitably runs again this year.

I would never vote for Miranda. If she’s the nominee I will write someone in.

Especially now. If she doesn't support masks, ZERO chance I could ever vote for her.

Yes, why would we ever trust her if she can't make a stand based on science/data on this very clear cut issue. She is pandering to the nut jobs.

She and APE are not taking a stand. Their press release yesterday was completely devoid of substance. Another word salad from her.

It's not word salad to say "our group doesn't take a stand on this issue." She made pretty clear that they support open schools and want whatever keeps schools open. Getting baited into taking a stand on everything that hits the news isn't good for an organization in the long run, and you're just angry that they aren't playing your game.

Right. So she's pandering to the RWNJs instead of "following the science".

Wearing masks will play a big role in keeping kids in the classrooms. Isn't that one of their core interests? Why wouldn't they comment on that? It's very telling that they won't.

It’s called “staying in your lane”

This is their lane. They lobbied for test to stay, they lobbied on quarantines. They even had a position on freakin math pathways for god's sake.

This is a copout. They don't support masks. That's obvious. They can't because they have too many nutjobs in their base who are antimask.

So to be clear you think masks are the single most important factor in education and you don’t care about academics since those don’t matter, only masks do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if APE is going to opine on CRT and masks?

Anyone seen this from them?

Turner commented on masks on AEM. It was a pretty funny word salad.

Interesting. From APE or Turner?

and just a comment on AEM, that's it? Really? This is the group that issues press releases and newsletters left and right but they can't put out a public statement on masks? I guess they don't want to.

Turner doesn’t want to admit they support Youngkin’s order. It won’t help her secure the Dem caucus endorsement when she inevitably runs again this year.

I would never vote for Miranda. If she’s the nominee I will write someone in.

Especially now. If she doesn't support masks, ZERO chance I could ever vote for her.

Yes, why would we ever trust her if she can't make a stand based on science/data on this very clear cut issue. She is pandering to the nut jobs.

She and APE are not taking a stand. Their press release yesterday was completely devoid of substance. Another word salad from her.

It's not word salad to say "our group doesn't take a stand on this issue." She made pretty clear that they support open schools and want whatever keeps schools open. Getting baited into taking a stand on everything that hits the news isn't good for an organization in the long run, and you're just angry that they aren't playing your game.

Right. So she's pandering to the RWNJs instead of "following the science".

Wearing masks will play a big role in keeping kids in the classrooms. Isn't that one of their core interests? Why wouldn't they comment on that? It's very telling that they won't.

It’s called “staying in your lane”

This is their lane. They lobbied for test to stay, they lobbied on quarantines. They even had a position on freakin math pathways for god's sake.

This is a copout. They don't support masks. That's obvious. They can't because they have too many nutjobs in their base who are antimask.

So to be clear you think masks are the single most important factor in education and you don’t care about academics since those don’t matter, only masks do.

Not the PP. Seems to me YOU are the one solely focused on masking policy, or at least solely focused on APE's decision to not take a position on that one issue. It is possible to note that a group takes a position on everything but doesn't on one particular issue without believing that issue is the single most important factor in education. PP is just griping about APE because PP clearly despises APE for reasons beyond mask policy position.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if APE is going to opine on CRT and masks?

Anyone seen this from them?

Turner commented on masks on AEM. It was a pretty funny word salad.

Interesting. From APE or Turner?

and just a comment on AEM, that's it? Really? This is the group that issues press releases and newsletters left and right but they can't put out a public statement on masks? I guess they don't want to.

Turner doesn’t want to admit they support Youngkin’s order. It won’t help her secure the Dem caucus endorsement when she inevitably runs again this year.

I would never vote for Miranda. If she’s the nominee I will write someone in.

Especially now. If she doesn't support masks, ZERO chance I could ever vote for her.

Yes, why would we ever trust her if she can't make a stand based on science/data on this very clear cut issue. She is pandering to the nut jobs.

She and APE are not taking a stand. Their press release yesterday was completely devoid of substance. Another word salad from her.

It's not word salad to say "our group doesn't take a stand on this issue." She made pretty clear that they support open schools and want whatever keeps schools open. Getting baited into taking a stand on everything that hits the news isn't good for an organization in the long run, and you're just angry that they aren't playing your game.

Right. So she's pandering to the RWNJs instead of "following the science".

Wearing masks will play a big role in keeping kids in the classrooms. Isn't that one of their core interests? Why wouldn't they comment on that? It's very telling that they won't.

It’s called “staying in your lane”

This is their lane. They lobbied for test to stay, they lobbied on quarantines. They even had a position on freakin math pathways for god's sake.

This is a copout. They don't support masks. That's obvious. They can't because they have too many nutjobs in their base who are antimask.

+1

Don't they want schools open and kids in classrooms? Masking is a no brainer for keeping kids in classrooms.

It's very telling that they aren't pushing for masks. The RWNJs run the back of the house.