More than 1 million fewer students are in college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. Particularly interested in what people who think it is "harder to get admitted now" think of it.

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/13/1072529477/more-than-1-million-fewer-students-are-in-college-the-lowest-enrollment-numbers-

Not in schools that matter to us, in these forums. Who cares if podunk university that the last ranking kid goes to now has to shut down? They don't deserve to exist anyways. More than likely, they conned the kids into going there and their congress lackeys enabled that through wasteful student loans.

You fail to understand math, and you are being a jerk while demonstrating it. Not a good combination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And yet my kid is getting EA/ED rejections left and right.

Its not because it’s harder to get in, it’s because…

Their reaches are out of their reach.
Their like lies are reaches.
Their safeties are likelies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. Particularly interested in what people who think it is "harder to get admitted now" think of it.

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/13/1072529477/more-than-1-million-fewer-students-are-in-college-the-lowest-enrollment-numbers-

Not in schools that matter to us, in these forums. Who cares if podunk university that the last ranking kid goes to now has to shut down? They don't deserve to exist anyways. More than likely, they conned the kids into going there and their congress lackeys enabled that through wasteful student loans.

Well because you WILL pay for college as a taxpayer via inflated Community College costs. I have really enjoyed watching the two powerful institutions - MCPS and MoCo college duke it out. With admissions rates plummeting MoCo college is pushing dual enrollment to keep their profs employed. MCPS with the wheels coming off uses the UMC to justify their bloated 3 billion jobs program - but we have Blair magnet! Look for smart kids to take the GED as soon as they can - and jump into MoCo College to get to Yale at 19. Or more credits will be offered for free to high school students (rather than just one or two). Going to be an interesting battle royal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. Particularly interested in what people who think it is "harder to get admitted now" think of it.

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/13/1072529477/more-than-1-million-fewer-students-are-in-college-the-lowest-enrollment-numbers-

Not in schools that matter to us, in these forums. Who cares if podunk university that the last ranking kid goes to now has to shut down? They don't deserve to exist anyways. More than likely, they conned the kids into going there and their congress lackeys enabled that through wasteful student loans.

Well because you WILL pay for college as a taxpayer via inflated Community College costs. I have really enjoyed watching the two powerful institutions - MCPS and MoCo college duke it out. With admissions rates plummeting MoCo college is pushing dual enrollment to keep their profs employed. MCPS with the wheels coming off uses the UMC to justify their bloated 3 billion jobs program - but we have Blair magnet! Look for smart kids to take the GED as soon as they can - and jump into MoCo College to get to Yale at 19. Or more credits will be offered for free to high school students (rather than just one or two). Going to be an interesting battle royal.

This thread jumped the shark the 1st page but gurl you need some Prozac.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. Particularly interested in what people who think it is "harder to get admitted now" think of it.

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/13/1072529477/more-than-1-million-fewer-students-are-in-college-the-lowest-enrollment-numbers-

Not in schools that matter to us, in these forums. Who cares if podunk university that the last ranking kid goes to now has to shut down? They don't deserve to exist anyways. More than likely, they conned the kids into going there and their congress lackeys enabled that through wasteful student loans.

Well because you WILL pay for college as a taxpayer via inflated Community College costs. I have really enjoyed watching the two powerful institutions - MCPS and MoCo college duke it out. With admissions rates plummeting MoCo college is pushing dual enrollment to keep their profs employed. MCPS with the wheels coming off uses the UMC to justify their bloated 3 billion jobs program - but we have Blair magnet! Look for smart kids to take the GED as soon as they can - and jump into MoCo College to get to Yale at 19. Or more credits will be offered for free to high school students (rather than just one or two). Going to be an interesting battle royal.

This thread jumped the shark the 1st page but gurl you need some Prozac.

The Yale comment was over the top but there is some truth to the rest of it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again with the ROI poster.

My kid is not a Hedge Fund.

Sure it's your money and your kids life

I don't seek monetary profit from raising them.

We are talking about monetary waste and time waste

Overall, the ROI of college is strong financially and socially. 25% of college students marry an alum from their college--that also adds to the household ROI. Health outcomes are higher for people with each year of college.
The kids who end up the worst--that can't get through college and take out excessive loans-- may not have the resources, skills, dispositions to move up the ladder in careers either. Even if on average the ROI of a Psych degree is minimal (as modeled by the author), it's not nothing--and they got to spend 4 years improving their minds and their social circles and likely end up with a cushier job--and they didn't spend those 4 years working and still ended up in same or slightly better financial place than if they went straight to work. They can also likely work a lot longer (the author modeled working until 65--people in non college-educated jobs are often pushed out of their careers at a younger age by health or physical limitations).

Again, this thread is not about justifying going to college for whatever reasons...it is to examine why 1 million kids have dropped out. Many have dropped out because they have decided not working for four years, plus the price of college and student loans, plus seeing other college grads they know struggle with relatively low paying jobs have influenced their decision to jump into the workforce. I doubt many on DCUM are part of or know anyone from these demographics...if you do, go ask them their thought process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. Particularly interested in what people who think it is "harder to get admitted now" think of it.

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/13/1072529477/more-than-1-million-fewer-students-are-in-college-the-lowest-enrollment-numbers-

People are realizing that shitty colleges and dumb majors are worthless especially if you have to accumulate student loan debt.
A lot of colleges should go out of business.

Agreed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nearly 3 pages and nobody has mentioned college readiness rates for young men. They're in the toilet. Why wouldn't college enrollments drop when less than 1 in 3 boys can even meet the fairly low bar of "college ready"? Most American boys are dull and unambitious dipsh*ts addicted to vape, marijuana, videos games, porn, and/or sports gambling. It's really sad. And nobody cares.

Some truth here. Sadly.

As a mom of a teen boy, I am keenly aware of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again with the ROI poster.

My kid is not a Hedge Fund.

Sure it's your money and your kids life

I don't seek monetary profit from raising them.

We are talking about monetary waste and time waste

Overall, the ROI of college is strong financially and socially. 25% of college students marry an alum from their college--that also adds to the household ROI. Health outcomes are higher for people with each year of college.
The kids who end up the worst--that can't get through college and take out excessive loans-- may not have the resources, skills, dispositions to move up the ladder in careers either. Even if on average the ROI of a Psych degree is minimal (as modeled by the author), it's not nothing--and they got to spend 4 years improving their minds and their social circles and likely end up with a cushier job--and they didn't spend those 4 years working and still ended up in same or slightly better financial place than if they went straight to work. They can also likely work a lot longer (the author modeled working until 65--people in non college-educated jobs are often pushed out of their careers at a younger age by health or physical limitations).

Again, this thread is not about justifying going to college for whatever reasons...it is to examine why 1 million kids have dropped out. Many have dropped out because they have decided not working for four years, plus the price of college and student loans, plus seeing other college grads they know struggle with relatively low paying jobs have influenced their decision to jump into the workforce. I doubt many on DCUM are part of or know anyone from these demographics...if you do, go ask them their thought process.

Well, whoever through in the ROI arguments should be focusing more on the pandemic than some pre-pandemic data. Let's see where the numbers are (percentage wise, not overall since demographics shift) once we're out of this and then some of the arguments make sense. I know plenty of people who are in that demographic--lots of relatives and their friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again with the ROI poster.

My kid is not a Hedge Fund.

Sure it's your money and your kids life

I don't seek monetary profit from raising them.

We are talking about monetary waste and time waste

Overall, the ROI of college is strong financially and socially. 25% of college students marry an alum from their college--that also adds to the household ROI. Health outcomes are higher for people with each year of college.
The kids who end up the worst--that can't get through college and take out excessive loans-- may not have the resources, skills, dispositions to move up the ladder in careers either. Even if on average the ROI of a Psych degree is minimal (as modeled by the author), it's not nothing--and they got to spend 4 years improving their minds and their social circles and likely end up with a cushier job--and they didn't spend those 4 years working and still ended up in same or slightly better financial place than if they went straight to work. They can also likely work a lot longer (the author modeled working until 65--people in non college-educated jobs are often pushed out of their careers at a younger age by health or physical limitations).

Again, this thread is not about justifying going to college for whatever reasons...it is to examine why 1 million kids have dropped out. Many have dropped out because they have decided not working for four years, plus the price of college and student loans, plus seeing other college grads they know struggle with relatively low paying jobs have influenced their decision to jump into the workforce. I doubt many on DCUM are part of or know anyone from these demographics...if you do, go ask them their thought process.

Well, whoever through in the ROI arguments should be focusing more on the pandemic than some pre-pandemic data. Let's see where the numbers are (percentage wise, not overall since demographics shift) once we're out of this and then some of the arguments make sense. I know plenty of people who are in that demographic--lots of relatives and their friends.

*threw. My brain is tired.