APS taking the fingers crossed approach to reopening

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Anonymous wrote:Oh the irony that those families who take a “wait and see” approach to vaccinating their 12-15 yos are rewarded. These rules are absurd and I hope this change wakes some people up to the insanity going on. Just a note that APE has been advocating for TTS this whole time. Maybe we should start listening to them more, lol.

Agreed. 12-15 yo kids are fully vaccinated bc they have received all their vaccinations. The fact that there isn’t a booster doesn’t make them partially vaxed. Other vaccines are only available after a certain age and kids aren’t excluded before that age from school. How can we push back on this nonsense ?

Send your kid in unless they are actively sick. If questioned, you say “my child is fully up to date with all covid vaccinations recommended and authorized by the CDC for their age group. They are fully vaccinated. They are showing no symptoms and the state requires in school education”.

And what do I do a kid in their Bio class is positive and they are identified as a close contact? There is no reason my kid needs to stay home if we can show a negative test. APS seems to think otherwise.

“I am following the instructions on the APS website. My child is fully vaccinated per the CDC and is exempt from quarantine”.

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Anonymous wrote:They really should just make middle school virtual now. None of these kids will be exempt from quarantine, because theyve just shifted from being “fully vaccinated” to “partially vaccinated” so they will be in and out all the time. Also, they have just discouraged families from being remotely honest about what’s going on. No way will I tell the schools anything about the covid status of anyone in our household unless it’s the student themselves. And anyone who does test positive should then be cleared for no restriction for school for at least 90 days after their initial symptoms clear.

Because they haven’t had a plan for actual remote instruction for the in-person students this time around, kids will seriously be left behind if they are stuck at home. The items posted for kids who are out has been abysmal. Do all teaching on camera, and post all the damn content with associated texts so I can go back to teaching my kid the work on evenings and weekends because who needs sleep?

I don’t know about all remote, but they do need an option for these kids. You can’t teach yourself middle school math. They need access to the lessons live.

Virtual school has open enrollment. All you closed schoolers, have at it. Otherwise, STFU.

So you think your child isn't going to get excluded by all of this? Or did you not responsibly vaccinate your child in the first place? Your kid will be at home with everyone else for at least eight days at a time.

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Anonymous wrote:They really should just make middle school virtual now. None of these kids will be exempt from quarantine, because theyve just shifted from being “fully vaccinated” to “partially vaccinated” so they will be in and out all the time. Also, they have just discouraged families from being remotely honest about what’s going on. No way will I tell the schools anything about the covid status of anyone in our household unless it’s the student themselves. And anyone who does test positive should then be cleared for no restriction for school for at least 90 days after their initial symptoms clear.

Because they haven’t had a plan for actual remote instruction for the in-person students this time around, kids will seriously be left behind if they are stuck at home. The items posted for kids who are out has been abysmal. Do all teaching on camera, and post all the damn content with associated texts so I can go back to teaching my kid the work on evenings and weekends because who needs sleep?

I don’t know about all remote, but they do need an option for these kids. You can’t teach yourself middle school math. They need access to the lessons live.

Virtual school has open enrollment. All you closed schoolers, have at it. Otherwise, STFU.

What are you talking about? Do you have a kid 12-15 who can’t be boosted? If not, you STFU! Our kids are going to be sent home frequently because of the ridiculous new quarantine rules.

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The quarantine rules are going to change dramatically in January with Youngkin. At a minimum, it will be you get to be in school unless you’re actually positive.

We also need to stop all the surveillance testing in sports.COVID will be here forever and that surveillance testing is a COVID eradication fantasy, not a living with the virus reality.

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Anonymous wrote:The quarantine rules are going to change dramatically in January with Youngkin. At a minimum, it will be you get to be in school unless you’re actually positive.

We also need to stop all the surveillance testing in sports.COVID will be here forever and that surveillance testing is a COVID eradication fantasy, not a living with the virus reality.

All y’all hanging on youngkin gonna be disappointed. He’s already walking back some of the things he supported. Haven’t y’all Learned by now?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm furious about the rules for 12-15 year olds. They can't be boosted and most are at 6+ months now. Their immune response was so much higher than adults, they may not even need a booster. They are going to miss so much school b/c the juniors and seniors in HS are the only ones booster eligible. On top of that, they are canceling sports (the one place that requires daily testing). My 14 yo could be quarantined for a week with no covid, go back to school and get exposed again and miss another week. This is ridiculous. We need test to stay.

This is what us parents of under 12s have been living with this whole school year. I agree it’s all ridiculous. We should never have been quarantining healthy kids to begin with especially since spread can occur before anyone in class even shows symptoms (plus in-class spread has proven minimal, most cases are coming from outside school exposure). Time to treat this like a normal cold — 24 hours fever free. No wringing hands over “close contacts.” If you’re health, you stay.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally anticipating a bumpy January. Will be thrilled if it isn’t, but, not holding my breath.

Can I ask in all honesty, for those who are fearful of in person school and going back in Jan—what is your expected ultimate end game? Never get COVID?

I’m not sure that is realistic unless you do a full isolation at this point. It seems much more like it is only a matter of time before everyone gets it. Hopefully cases are generally milder and less intense, but, do people really think they are going to outrun this?

Yes. There are literal nut jobs on this site who expect to live like this infinitely because they refuse to accept the reality of the situation. It’s insane. I’ve tuned them out and like most of the world have moved on with life. Movie theaters, restaurants, etc. are all packed by the way. Those of us back to normal are in the majority while the COVID zero crazies are sitting at home posting about how we need to shut down schools or put kids in KN95s.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally anticipating a bumpy January. Will be thrilled if it isn’t, but, not holding my breath.

Can I ask in all honesty, for those who are fearful of in person school and going back in Jan—what is your expected ultimate end game? Never get COVID?

I’m not sure that is realistic unless you do a full isolation at this point. It seems much more like it is only a matter of time before everyone gets it. Hopefully cases are generally milder and less intense, but, do people really think they are going to outrun this?

Yes. There are literal nut jobs on this site who expect to live like this infinitely because they refuse to accept the reality of the situation. It’s insane. I’ve tuned them out and like most of the world have moved on with life. Movie theaters, restaurants, etc. are all packed by the way. Those of us back to normal are in the majority while the COVID zero crazies are sitting at home posting about how we need to shut down schools or put kids in KN95s.

I'm totally happy to put my kid in a KN95 -- already ordered new and comfortable ones. That's prudent, especially since this area is the epicenter of the current surge. I am not happy to have my kid -- who already has LDs and needs to have direct instruction -- either in person or via remote -- lose weeks of instructional time because of a policy of exclusion when he is not sick. So if you're not going to support my kid in getting appropriate instruction, then you can all stay home with us and all fail middle school as well. It's only equitable.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally anticipating a bumpy January. Will be thrilled if it isn’t, but, not holding my breath.

Can I ask in all honesty, for those who are fearful of in person school and going back in Jan—what is your expected ultimate end game? Never get COVID?

I’m not sure that is realistic unless you do a full isolation at this point. It seems much more like it is only a matter of time before everyone gets it. Hopefully cases are generally milder and less intense, but, do people really think they are going to outrun this?

Yes. There are literal nut jobs on this site who expect to live like this infinitely because they refuse to accept the reality of the situation. It’s insane. I’ve tuned them out and like most of the world have moved on with life. Movie theaters, restaurants, etc. are all packed by the way. Those of us back to normal are in the majority while the COVID zero crazies are sitting at home posting about how we need to shut down schools or put kids in KN95s.

What’s your hang up with Kn95?? My kids sit through school day and play multiple athletics (club level) in them. No issue at all.

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Can I ask in all honesty, for those who are fearful of in person school and going back in Jan—what is your expected ultimate end game? Never get COVID?

I'm not fearful of in person school, but I am glad I am in a county where we are going virtual for 2 weeks.
I still am trying to avoid COVID for my family and myself.
I am certain that right now with the surge in cases our area is having, students who go to school in person in the next two weeks WILL be exposed to COVID (or WOULD BE exposed). I'd rather that not happen.

If we can make it past this surge in cases without COVID, I'll think we are pretty protected at least for a while from getting it. There will be a fire break so to speak, of herd immunity built up by vaccinations, of course, and by people's natural infections on top of that. I'm hoping not to be a part of the natural infection contingent, but I understand that other people aren't concerned about that. That's my end game, though. No COVID infection.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh the irony that those families who take a “wait and see” approach to vaccinating their 12-15 yos are rewarded. These rules are absurd and I hope this change wakes some people up to the insanity going on. Just a note that APE has been advocating for TTS this whole time. Maybe we should start listening to them more, lol.

Agreed. 12-15 yo kids are fully vaccinated bc they have received all their vaccinations. The fact that there isn’t a booster doesn’t make them partially vaxed. Other vaccines are only available after a certain age and kids aren’t excluded before that age from school. How can we push back on this nonsense ?

Send your kid in unless they are actively sick. If questioned, you say “my child is fully up to date with all covid vaccinations recommended and authorized by the CDC for their age group. They are fully vaccinated. They are showing no symptoms and the state requires in school education”.

And what do I do a kid in their Bio class is positive and they are identified as a close contact? There is no reason my kid needs to stay home if we can show a negative test. APS seems to think otherwise.

“I am following the instructions on the APS website. My child is fully vaccinated per the CDC and is exempt from quarantine”.

The new CDC guidance also provides for quarantine for those who are more than 6 months from their second shot (w/o booster). So your statement would not be true.

SB 1303 requires schools to comply with CDC guidance. Yes, “to the extent practicable,” but I’m not sure how much discretion Youngkin will have to force schools to do something different from this recent guidance.

The VA VDOE has already instructed school districts to provide meaningful remote options for their quarantine periods, so I bet we see a return of concurrent learning for at least the first part of the winter.

I hope schools are proactive about sending home kids who present with symptoms when their F’wad parents send their sick kids to school.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally anticipating a bumpy January. Will be thrilled if it isn’t, but, not holding my breath.

Can I ask in all honesty, for those who are fearful of in person school and going back in Jan—what is your expected ultimate end game? Never get COVID?

I’m not sure that is realistic unless you do a full isolation at this point. It seems much more like it is only a matter of time before everyone gets it. Hopefully cases are generally milder and less intense, but, do people really think they are going to outrun this?

Yes. There are literal nut jobs on this site who expect to live like this infinitely because they refuse to accept the reality of the situation. It’s insane. I’ve tuned them out and like most of the world have moved on with life. Movie theaters, restaurants, etc. are all packed by the way. Those of us back to normal are in the majority while the COVID zero crazies are sitting at home posting about how we need to shut down schools or put kids in KN95s.

I'm totally happy to put my kid in a KN95 -- already ordered new and comfortable ones. That's prudent, especially since this area is the epicenter of the current surge. I am not happy to have my kid -- who already has LDs and needs to have direct instruction -- either in person or via remote -- lose weeks of instructional time because of a policy of exclusion when he is not sick. So if you're not going to support my kid in getting appropriate instruction, then you can all stay home with us and all fail middle school as well. It's only equitable.

Exactly! Mine doesn't have LDs, but this model is completely idiotic. There is no reason my not-sick 12-15yo needs to stay miss A WEEK of school over when they are double vaccinated. We did the right thing. Let our kids stay in school.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh the irony that those families who take a “wait and see” approach to vaccinating their 12-15 yos are rewarded. These rules are absurd and I hope this change wakes some people up to the insanity going on. Just a note that APE has been advocating for TTS this whole time. Maybe we should start listening to them more, lol.

Agreed. 12-15 yo kids are fully vaccinated bc they have received all their vaccinations. The fact that there isn’t a booster doesn’t make them partially vaxed. Other vaccines are only available after a certain age and kids aren’t excluded before that age from school. How can we push back on this nonsense ?

Send your kid in unless they are actively sick. If questioned, you say “my child is fully up to date with all covid vaccinations recommended and authorized by the CDC for their age group. They are fully vaccinated. They are showing no symptoms and the state requires in school education”.

And what do I do a kid in their Bio class is positive and they are identified as a close contact? There is no reason my kid needs to stay home if we can show a negative test. APS seems to think otherwise.

“I am following the instructions on the APS website. My child is fully vaccinated per the CDC and is exempt from quarantine”.

Schools are going to require the vaccine card to show proof of booster ad they have been all along. Sorry your method is not going to work.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh the irony that those families who take a “wait and see” approach to vaccinating their 12-15 yos are rewarded. These rules are absurd and I hope this change wakes some people up to the insanity going on. Just a note that APE has been advocating for TTS this whole time. Maybe we should start listening to them more, lol.

Agreed. 12-15 yo kids are fully vaccinated bc they have received all their vaccinations. The fact that there isn’t a booster doesn’t make them partially vaxed. Other vaccines are only available after a certain age and kids aren’t excluded before that age from school. How can we push back on this nonsense ?

Send your kid in unless they are actively sick. If questioned, you say “my child is fully up to date with all covid vaccinations recommended and authorized by the CDC for their age group. They are fully vaccinated. They are showing no symptoms and the state requires in school education”.

And what do I do a kid in their Bio class is positive and they are identified as a close contact? There is no reason my kid needs to stay home if we can show a negative test. APS seems to think otherwise.

“I am following the instructions on the APS website. My child is fully vaccinated per the CDC and is exempt from quarantine”.

The new CDC guidance also provides for quarantine for those who are more than 6 months from their second shot (w/o booster). So your statement would not be true.

SB 1303 requires schools to comply with CDC guidance. Yes, “to the extent practicable,” but I’m not sure how much discretion Youngkin will have to force schools to do something different from this recent guidance.

The VA VDOE has already instructed school districts to provide meaningful remote options for their quarantine periods, so I bet we see a return of concurrent learning for at least the first part of the winter.

I hope schools are proactive about sending home kids who present with symptoms when their F’wad parents send their sick kids to school.

The problem is my not-sick child will be exempted for 5 days for no reason when they have received all the vaccinations available to them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh the irony that those families who take a “wait and see” approach to vaccinating their 12-15 yos are rewarded. These rules are absurd and I hope this change wakes some people up to the insanity going on. Just a note that APE has been advocating for TTS this whole time. Maybe we should start listening to them more, lol.

Agreed. 12-15 yo kids are fully vaccinated bc they have received all their vaccinations. The fact that there isn’t a booster doesn’t make them partially vaxed. Other vaccines are only available after a certain age and kids aren’t excluded before that age from school. How can we push back on this nonsense ?

Send your kid in unless they are actively sick. If questioned, you say “my child is fully up to date with all covid vaccinations recommended and authorized by the CDC for their age group. They are fully vaccinated. They are showing no symptoms and the state requires in school education”.

And what do I do a kid in their Bio class is positive and they are identified as a close contact? There is no reason my kid needs to stay home if we can show a negative test. APS seems to think otherwise.

“I am following the instructions on the APS website. My child is fully vaccinated per the CDC and is exempt from quarantine”.

The new CDC guidance also provides for quarantine for those who are more than 6 months from their second shot (w/o booster). So your statement would not be true.

SB 1303 requires schools to comply with CDC guidance. Yes, “to the extent practicable,” but I’m not sure how much discretion Youngkin will have to force schools to do something different from this recent guidance.

The VA VDOE has already instructed school districts to provide meaningful remote options for their quarantine periods, so I bet we see a return of concurrent learning for at least the first part of the winter.

I hope schools are proactive about sending home kids who present with symptoms when their F’wad parents send their sick kids to school.

The problem is my not-sick child will be exempted for 5 days for no reason when they have received all the vaccinations available to them.

I’m in the same boat as you, but it sounds like your problem is with the CDC not APS.