Sports for college application
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Anonymous
| Wow 30 percent cvavce . What a joke |
Anonymous
Seriously? You think an Olympic sport is "not that hard to get good at"? The top high school fencers spend 20-30 hours a week training, AND have to travel to six North American Cups a year to compete, AND have to travel to 4-7 Cadet and Junior World Cups in Europe each year, where they compete against the best European fencers (where fencing is taken very seriously), all while maintaining full high school schedules, taking AP classes, etc. |
Anonymous
Can you just stop? It is obvious you have a personal issue with fencing. You magically appear on DCUM with any mention of the sport to find a way to diminish it or anyone associated with it. It's not for everyone. Clearly it's not for you or your DC, which means you or your DC have invested little if any time in understanding it, which means you have zero knowledge to speak on it, which means you are adding zero value with respect to OPs question. Move on. This is getting old. |
Anonymous
It’s all relative . You don’t see super stud athletes competing Jin fencing |
Anonymous
Stats don’t lie . 30 percent chance for a high school fencer to compete at college level. Lol |
Anonymous
| Agree the stats are impressive. The chart is kind of nuts though in terms of how many HS kids it says plays football, baseball, softball. Maybe it is correct with respect to the fencing numbers which are probably easier to track. |
Anonymous
You really don't know what you are talking about, and yet you revel and flaunt your lack of knowledge and feel compelled to post about things you know nothing about. Here is the reality: fencing is extremely competitive. At the junior level (the high school kids we are talking about), thousands of fencers worldwide are going to international competitions each year. Only a few can make it to the top -- and the US fencers are pushing their way in, especially the female fencers. Despite this being a historically European sport, where sporting events are televised in prime time, etc., US junior women fencers have almost a dozen people in the top twenty fencers worldwide, in all three weapons (epee, foil, and saber). In two of the three sports, the number one sport worldwide is held by a US fencer (foil and saber), and i the third, a US fencer is ranked fifth globally. Just last week at a Junior World Cup, the two finalists were US fencers. But sure, let's go with your theory that they got their without working hard or being good athletes. |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
Again, showing your ignorance. These statistics are for fencing at ALL levels, including Division III. Fencers generally love to fence, and find a way to do it at the college level, even if they know they will not be going to NCAAs. But if you are talking about the TOP levels, each school will generally recruit ONE person per sex for each weapon, making it extremely difficult to get to a top program. |
Anonymous
Just because you are competing at the college level does not mean that you are "good". There are plenty of fencers on collegiate rosters who are not on the national points list (not ranked) or who are rated B or below. Not all collegiate teams are competitive. Not all fencers on a given powerhouse team are competitive. The most competitive programs only recruit a handful of fencers each year. The rest of the fencers are walk-ons that are there as training partners and are likely never going to fence any NCAA competitions. For example, Columbia and Notre Dame have huge rosters relatively speaking. Most of those fencers won't get to compete at a single NCAA tournament. Correct, it is not that hard to walk on to a team once you're already admitted to the school. Correct, that inflates the percent of high school fencers able to fence at the college level. |
Anonymous
It is really sad that some people hide behind anonymous handles to trash others. Three of these top junior fencers worldwide are from the DMV area, and a fourth from the DMV area is not far behind. Thankfully they are probably working too hard at school and at their fencing training to see ridiculous posts about their sport on DCUM. As it happens, they are all also going to top schools in the fall (Harvard, Princeton, and Notre Dame), and will be representing the United States at the Junior World Championships in a few months, so perhaps that explains the bitter attempts to tear down the sport. |
Anonymous
This is a fair and balanced response. The other people attacking the PP was uncalled for. |
Anonymous
The PP posted repeatedly denigrated the sport, said it took no athletic ability to fence, and that college fencing was a "joke." It would seem that this ill-informed opinion, repeatedly expressed for no reason, was what was "uncalled for." |
Anonymous
The same stats show a 17% chance for a male gymnast to compete at a college level. Are you also going to say that it is easy to be a gymnast? You have to distinguish between participating in the sport and actually competing in the competitions. It is possible to both have it be easy to be on a roster but extremely hard to be on the actual competitive team. Which is how it should be -- not everyone wants to be a hard-core competitive athlete, but still might enjoy the collegiate sporting environment or helping the overall team train. |
Anonymous
| Hardest sport is women volleyball for a scholarship |