How to reinstate accelerated math in LCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:on what Republicans care about which is tax breaks for corporations and the rich.

Right now that's the Democrats doing that, eliminating the cap on the SALT deduction.

that's eliminating a double taxation on middle class families in areas like ours. thank god for Dems.

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Anonymous wrote:School districts currently provide acceleration at their own discretion - and that wouldn't have changed with VMPI.

Can Youngkin force a certain level of acceleration in a specific school district? Could he force an accelerated path that is 3 years ahead of baseline?

He could but he won't because the deep red districts that are his real base don't have the resources or inclination to offer it.

These deep red districts have been offering more advanced math than what LCPS is planning, and have been for decades.

here's Tazewell County's curriculum where Youngkin won 86% of the vote. It tops out at calculus.

https://ths.tcpsva.org

Yes, and this would be started with algebra in 8th grade. LCPS's latest plans would have even the advanced kids struggling to get to calculus, as they would be getting algebra in 9th grade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin is ultimately not going to be able to do much about local school choices nor will he care. He used CRT as bait for suburban white women and it worked but he will otherwise completely ignore education.

+1. even better, with all the tax cuts he promised, schools will have less money and resources.

Yeah I can’t wait til class sizes balloon and we can’t properly teach and then we get blamed for that too

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School districts currently provide acceleration at their own discretion - and that wouldn't have changed with VMPI.

Can Youngkin force a certain level of acceleration in a specific school district? Could he force an accelerated path that is 3 years ahead of baseline?

He could but he won't because the deep red districts that are his real base don't have the resources or inclination to offer it.

These deep red districts have been offering more advanced math than what LCPS is planning, and have been for decades.

here's Tazewell County's curriculum where Youngkin won 86% of the vote. It tops out at calculus.

https://ths.tcpsva.org

Yes, and this would be started with algebra in 8th grade. LCPS's latest plans would have even the advanced kids struggling to get to calculus, as they would be getting algebra in 9th grade.

Do you have any citation for that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School districts currently provide acceleration at their own discretion - and that wouldn't have changed with VMPI.

Can Youngkin force a certain level of acceleration in a specific school district? Could he force an accelerated path that is 3 years ahead of baseline?

He could but he won't because the deep red districts that are his real base don't have the resources or inclination to offer it.

These deep red districts have been offering more advanced math than what LCPS is planning, and have been for decades.

here's Tazewell County's curriculum where Youngkin won 86% of the vote. It tops out at calculus.

https://ths.tcpsva.org

Yes, and this would be started with algebra in 8th grade. LCPS's latest plans would have even the advanced kids struggling to get to calculus, as they would be getting algebra in 9th grade.

Do you have any citation for that?

+1

It’s BS.

[Anonymous]

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Do you mean LCPS for slowing down the acceleration a wee bit so kids aren't three grade levels ahead?

Maybe they aren't seeing good outcomes from too many kids accelerating so much. Maybe they aren't demonstrating depth of knowledge. Maybe not enough kids qualified enough to justify the course offering.

I can think of many reasons that are pro-education.

Wrong on all three counts. And they are also eliminating two grade levels ahead, which at some schools was more than half the class.
Not enough to justify the course makes no sense, since multiple grades are in the same class. It only is an issue once you get to 8th graders taking algebra 2, and Stone Hill has multiple classes of this in school, while other schools might have kids take a bus to the high school, which is not exclusive to advanced math, but also music and languages.

Sorry your kid bombed the SOL and math inventory. They only want the smart kids taking Algebra early.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School districts currently provide acceleration at their own discretion - and that wouldn't have changed with VMPI.

Can Youngkin force a certain level of acceleration in a specific school district? Could he force an accelerated path that is 3 years ahead of baseline?

He could but he won't because the deep red districts that are his real base don't have the resources or inclination to offer it.

You almost have to feel bad. They got played so hard. Youngkin didn’t care about your kids math 😭 he never did, he cares about MONEY and POWER, not accelerated algebra

Lol as opposed to McAuliffe who sent his kids to private school? Both these candidates sent their kids to private school. Neither of them has any personal investment in public schools.

Anyway... I took pre-algebra in 5th grade at my Catholic school. The fact that there might not be an option to take it in 6th grade around here is honestly pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:School districts currently provide acceleration at their own discretion - and that wouldn't have changed with VMPI.

Can Youngkin force a certain level of acceleration in a specific school district? Could he force an accelerated path that is 3 years ahead of baseline?

He could but he won't because the deep red districts that are his real base don't have the resources or inclination to offer it.

You almost have to feel bad. They got played so hard. Youngkin didn’t care about your kids math 😭 he never did, he cares about MONEY and POWER, not accelerated algebra

Lol as opposed to McAuliffe who sent his kids to private school? Both these candidates sent their kids to private school. Neither of them has any personal investment in public schools.

Anyway... I took pre-algebra in 5th grade at my Catholic school. The fact that there might not be an option to take it in 6th grade around here is honestly pathetic.

Liar. McAuliffe had a kid in public.

[Anonymous]

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Yes, and this would be started with algebra in 8th grade. LCPS's latest plans would have even the advanced kids struggling to get to calculus, as they would be getting algebra in 9th grade.

Do you have any citation for that?

+1

It’s BS.

It was the latest math pathway they put up. They later took it down, but have not provided a replacement plan. Their plan was to implement VMPI's blended classes in 2023-2024. They have already taken away algebra from 6th grade and substantially reduced it for 7th grade.

[Anonymous]

It’s true. There are 75 8th graders taking Geometry at our high farms MS. My current 5th grade will not have that path available to her, even though my 8th grader did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While the changes under VMPI haven’t taken affect yet, it doesn’t mean the trend of fewer advanced math options is already in action.
Here is what APS recently did for middle school math:
1. Teach much less math than usual during the pandemic by only teaching four days a week, etc.
2. Greatly INCREASE the test scores needed to qualify for the next advanced math class compared with previous years.
3. Shrug & say “oh look, not enough kids qualified for us to have a 7th grade algebra class. Guess we don't need one.” It’s a sneaky way to get rid of some advanced options.

The pandemic schedule has nothing to do with VMPI.

Years before VMPI, APS had already slowed down acceleration and eliminated 6th grade algebra. At the time, they said it because students weren’t demonstrating mastery / depth of knowledge.

Sorry, you can’t blame it on “equity” here.

Well, now they’re trying to eliminate 7th grade algebra, too. But without making a big announcement and just kind of hoping people won’t notice. That’s a problem.

THIS. And I noticed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP in my experience in Loudoun a lot of the families who are interested in choices in math levels are afraid to go up against the establishment because they are afraid there will be negative repercussions for their children. That's not how it works. You need to organize and demand what you want. Teachers will not fail your children just because you spoke up at a meeting. White people have done awful things to people from so many other countries, read some history if you're not familiar, so affirmative action should not leave children of any non-white heritage behind. Educate them on this because they don't know much about history. That is how this math thing happened, school admin were educated on American history and learned about the need for equity, but white people's destruction and colonization also affected other groups, groups who are now frustrated with the lack of math differentiation, so teach them some more history.

Also, they need to recognize that the White school administration should not get to decide that families of any other heritage are pushing their children too hard and so take away their choice for advanced math. Let them know your children are not better off mentally with easier schooling.

Organize and demand a change.

In my experience, a lot of the Asian families are not aware of these changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s true. There are 75 8th graders taking Geometry at our high farms MS. My current 5th grade will not have that path available to her, even though my 8th grader did.

do you have a source for that claim?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s true. There are 75 8th graders taking Geometry at our high farms MS. My current 5th grade will not have that path available to her, even though my 8th grader did.

do you have a source for that claim?

Would also love to see the source!

[Anonymous]

Not hard to believe. There are over 200 at definitely two, and probably three, middle schools in Ashburn taking either Geometry or Algebra 2 in 8th grade.