What's the difference between level IV and a 'center?'

[Anonymous]

i understand that they both provide Level IV services. Why is one preferred over the other? TIA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i understand that they both provide Level IV services. Why is one preferred over the other? TIA!

"Local Level IV" is Level IV services provided at the base school. Not all schools have Local Level IV. Some only offer Level III pull-outs. At schools that offer Local Level IV, some non-Level IV eligible students may be included in the AAP classes at the principal's discretion. Center-based Level IV is full time and includes only students who are eligible for Level IV services. Students from different schools in the center's assignment area transfer to the center school (http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/designations.shtml)

Some people prefer Local Level IV so their child can remain at the base school. Some people prefer center-based Level IV so that only Level IV-eligible students are in the classes. Our base school doesn't offer Local Level IV, so we had to send DC to the AAP center to get Level IV services.

You can read about the different levels at http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/level4.shtml

[Anonymous]

Thanks! Clears it up. I didn't realize 'noneligible' kids could be placed into level IV.

[Anonymous]

Depends on the school. There isn't any in my child's local level Iv.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks! Clears it up. I didn't realize 'noneligible' kids could be placed into level IV.

They are eligible for AAP services, just not for all four core subject area. So, they are in the LLIV for the core subject areas in which they qualify.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i understand that they both provide Level IV services. Why is one preferred over the other? TIA!

"Local Level IV" is Level IV services provided at the base school. Not all schools have Local Level IV. Some only offer Level III pull-outs. At schools that offer Local Level IV, some non-Level IV eligible students may be included in the AAP classes at the principal's discretion. Center-based Level IV is full time and includes only students who are eligible for Level IV services. Students from different schools in the center's assignment area transfer to the center school (http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/designations.shtml)

Some people prefer Local Level IV so their child can remain at the base school. Some people prefer center-based Level IV so that only Level IV-eligible students are in the classes. Our base school doesn't offer Local Level IV, so we had to send DC to the AAP center to get Level IV services.

You can read about the different levels at http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/level4.shtml

We are at a center school. There is a student in my dd's AAP class placed at the principal's discretion from the base program.

[Anonymous]

OP- makes me wish we had local level IV at our school.

[Anonymous]

Usually if the principal placed them, they are more than exemplary students....much better than many aap eligible imho.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Usually if the principal placed them, they are more than exemplary students....much better than many aap eligible imho.

In some cases the student didn't have the cogat/nnat score but demonstrate high levels of creative and critical thinking as well as grit and determination to suceed.

for teachers the downside of local level IV is they lack peers teaching the AAP curriculum so they don't have as many opportunities for collaboration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Usually if the principal placed them, they are more than exemplary students....much better than many aap eligible imho.

In some cases the student didn't have the cogat/nnat score but demonstrate high levels of creative and critical thinking as well as grit and determination to suceed.

for teachers the downside of local level IV is they lack peers teaching the AAP curriculum so they don't have as many opportunities for collaboration.

The reality is the school can not afford half filled classes. If the school has 15 kids in AAP, they will add non-aap to balance out. In some cases, they will place per subject (particularly math), in others, they will add a kid to the class. The problem is principal place into the level iv class room does not guarantee anything for future years.

[Anonymous]

Check out differences in academically-related activities at Centers vs. local level iv programs - there can be quite a difference. If your child likes things like math club or science activities there can be more opportunities at centers. These sorts of activities can bring a lot to kids and in many base schools the demand and parent support is not there to have them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Check out differences in academically-related activities at Centers vs. local level iv programs - there can be quite a difference. If your child likes things like math club or science activities there can be more opportunities at centers. These sorts of activities can bring a lot to kids and in many base schools the demand and parent support is not there to have them.

I have that it isn't so much the difference between AAP Center school and non-center schools, but the difference between the overly affluent schools and the merely affluent schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Check out differences in academically-related activities at Centers vs. local level iv programs - there can be quite a difference. If your child likes things like math club or science activities there can be more opportunities at centers. These sorts of activities can bring a lot to kids and in many base schools the demand and parent support is not there to have them.

I have that it isn't so much the difference between AAP Center school and non-center schools, but the difference between the overly affluent schools and the merely affluent schools.

That's idiotic you don't pay to get in .

[Anonymous]

There are plenty of Title I schools out there. Some of our schools have very high numbers of kids on free and reduced meals. At least by bringing kids together, you have more chance of there being a teacher or parent to sponsor something like chess, that doesn't cost much. Chess should be in every school, why not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of Title I schools out there. Some of our schools have very high numbers of kids on free and reduced meals. At least by bringing kids together, you have more chance of there being a teacher or parent to sponsor something like chess, that doesn't cost much. Chess should be in every school, why not?

The Title I schools in Fairfax county still have an affluent component. Even Bailey's.