how slowly is math in your child's ES moving now under 2.0 for K-2nd graders?

Anonymous
I'm really surprised that my 1st grader is still getting homework like "12-5 = ___" and "rank these items pictured in order from biggest to smallest."
In kindergarten, the school is asking kids to draw circles to answer simple addition (2+3 = ___).
When my oldest kid was in kindergarten in a downcounty school 5 years ago, he was already starting to regroup and doing triple-digit addition (like 123 + 456 + ___). But yet my 1st grader hasn't gotten close to what his brother was doing a year earlier, and my younger kid is actually better at math than the older kid. It's frustrating for my little one and for me.
I know that the new curriculum is slowing things down, but is our experience normal? It seems a little odd to have kids doing such simple work when they are more than capable of moving ahead. Teacher just shrugs and blames it on the curriculum.
Anonymous
Yes, its pathetic. In second grade lots of single digit addition and subtraction for mad minutes. DD could do this before K. They are getting to measure now but pathetically remedial.

2.0 is all about leveling out all the kids. If your child went to a good preschool, they are expected to just sit and wait for some kid in another part of the county to catch up. Enjoy MCPS!
Anonymous
I don't know what it was like before because my oldest is only in 1st, but I find math pretty disappointing so far! They do focus so much on reading/writing (which is obviously important), but math has seemed to go by the wayside. It is definitely very basic, simple addition/subtraction.

We've started working on math at home with DD. I've heard about some great websites, but for now, we just do workbooks - Spectrum or Kumon.
Anonymous
Prior to 2.0, some parents and upper grade math teachers were complaining that a lot of kids were advanced too quickly and were missing basic fundamentals. There were complaints that the math curriculum was a mile wide and an inch thick. You can also read some of the older MD forum posts on this forum.

They are spending a lot more time on basics in k-3. Yes, it's slower. It's now "a mile deep and an inch wide".

MCPS's goal is to have all kids take Algebra by 8th grade, with the more advanced kids taking Algebra by 7th.
Anonymous
You should go to the General Education forum, where you will read that the Common Core standards for K-2 are developmentally inappropriate and much too difficult. That will cheer you up.

Another thing to cheer you up -- ON GRADE LEVEL math under Curriculum 2.0 will get your child to Algebra I in 8th grade and Calculus in 12th grade.
Anonymous
I am so tired of the idiot who keeps posting that no one should care about the abysmal elementary school math because their kids will get to MCPS Calculus in twelfth grade. Good grief, talk about a fool drinking the cool aid.

You can't mask horrible a math curriculum by labeling twelfth grade math Calculus. Lets just call Biscuit books advanced American literature.

The kids are missing a critical foundation in mathematics. This may be fine if your headed to community college and plan a long career in MCPS but the world does people educated in STEM. Sadly, Montgomery County will not be contributing.
Anonymous
It's now "a mile deep and an inch wide".


OMG, I just spit out my coffee. 2.0 math is NOT a mile deep. Its basic and ridiculous. Repeat how to add 2+2 in eight different ways. Write an essay on how doing stupid math makes sense. This is not depth, other than depth of bull shit!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of the idiot who keeps posting that no one should care about the abysmal elementary school math because their kids will get to MCPS Calculus in twelfth grade. Good grief, talk about a fool drinking the cool aid.

You can't mask horrible a math curriculum by labeling twelfth grade math Calculus. Lets just call Biscuit books advanced American literature.

The kids are missing a critical foundation in mathematics. This may be fine if your headed to community college and plan a long career in MCPS but the world does people educated in STEM. Sadly, Montgomery County will not be contributing.


Very well stated!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of the idiot who keeps posting that no one should care about the abysmal elementary school math because their kids will get to MCPS Calculus in twelfth grade. Good grief, talk about a fool drinking the cool aid.

You can't mask horrible a math curriculum by labeling twelfth grade math Calculus. Lets just call Biscuit books advanced American literature.

The kids are missing a critical foundation in mathematics. This may be fine if your headed to community college and plan a long career in MCPS but the world does people educated in STEM. Sadly, Montgomery County will not be contributing.


AP Calculus is AP Calculus -- no?
Anonymous
Since when is regrouping a required part of the K curriculum? It was not when my pre 2.0 er was there...and she ended up in 6th grade algebra. Are we saying (You can't mask horrible a math curriculum by labeling twelfth grade math Calculus. Lets just call Biscuit books advanced American literature) the MCPS will not be actually teaching AP Calculus (followed by a standardized national exam) to our kids when they enroll in calculus? Where is this info from?
Anonymous
My first grader seems to be closely following the MCPS curriculum as outlined in this guide:
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/curriculum/elementary/parent-guide-curriculum2.0-grade1-en.pdf

So, last month they were adding three numbers in sums up to 20, as described in the Marking Period 2 - Mathematics section. They are now measuring in non-standard units (paperclips, I believe), as described in the first bullet point of Marking Period 3 - Mathematics.

I have found these guides to be useful in seeing what is expected of my student and how it fits into the entire elementary school curriculum. It also reassures me that my student's class is progressing as expected and that the teacher is following a plan to get through the whole curriculum at the right pace.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
It's now "a mile deep and an inch wide".


OMG, I just spit out my coffee. 2.0 math is NOT a mile deep. Its basic and ridiculous. Repeat how to add 2+2 in eight different ways. Write an essay on how doing stupid math makes sense. This is not depth, other than depth of bull shit!


You can spit up all you want, but American adults also suck at math, and these adults didn't learn under 2.0. So yes, a lot of people, kids and adults, don't have a solid fundamentals in math.
Anonymous
In K, sums up to 10. So very, very slowly.
Some measuring, some shapes but only squares and circles.
Anonymous
The 2nd grade math curriculum is the exact same as the 1st graDe was in Florida. The teacher said they like to make sure the kids really know their basics before 3rd grade when it "jumps."
Anonymous
Do people realize that some kids come into k barely knowing their numbers? So yes, K-2 math is slower to help other kids catch up. Repetition builds brain memory, so yes, they will repeat things over and over.

If your kid is more advanced, and you have a good teacher, the teacher will provide your DC some acceleration. It will state this on your DC's report card. If this isn't advanced enough for you, then by all means, provide some enrichment at home, but then don't complain that your DC's are complaining that school is boring.

My kids are advanced in math, but I realize that this is public school, and they can't cater to just my kids. Older DC is in compacted math. DC will be in Algebra by 7th grade. That's pretty advanced.
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